Too many under-aged?

I think you'll find that there's 16+ year olds on here that aren't very mature.
But yes, children do tend to be the more immature ones, I think children should not be able to use the internet UNTIL they learn about it, what the consequences are for doing naughty stuff :) And that goes for not just Transformice, but the whole internet, doesn't matter what Game, Social media ect site you're on.

As for swearing, I think children tend to overdo it, because it's something they're not allowed to do, I mean, I doubt the children that frequently swear on Transformice just go out swearing at, Mum, Dad, teachers. other students ect, why you ask? Because the children don't understand the fact that the internet doesn't give you the right to be a dick, you see, it gives children a sense of freedom once they jump on the internet, it's like they leave the world for a short amount of time, that's why they need to learn the consequences of doing wrong on the internet.

And for those saying "Oh their parents should be watching/supervising them" Like seriously? The chat removes itself after a certain amount of other posts are made after it, so being able to monitor what your child says on the internet, (on this game) would be near impossible.

It's also a case of "Monkey see, monkey do" Kids see someone else doing it, they follow/do it too.

#922

...I.. I just.. feel ashamed of my community (Singapore) chat...
I know i am not mature at all yet but... I just see those.. young teenagers, swearing the heck they want and being ignorant is just like an irritation.
True that i can use the /ignore button but lets face it, we don't, because we find it entertaining to see someone less experienced then you are.

Everyday i just see the stupider ones getting bullied by the stupid ones, and then the less stupid ones join in the conversation and then suddenly everyone becomes stupid.
Each is trying to prove themselves right while the audience just keeps quiet and watch.

I know the other community will have worse but I.. I just need to know how these people live...

#923

Jaymzzzz a dit :
I think you'll find that there's 16+ year olds on here that aren't very mature.
But yes, children do tend to be the more immature ones, I think children should not be able to use the internet UNTIL they learn about it, what the consequences are for doing naughty stuff :) And that goes for not just Transformice, but the whole internet, doesn't matter what Game, Social media ect site you're on.

As for swearing, I think children tend to overdo it, because it's something they're not allowed to do outside of the internet, I mean, I doubt the children that frequently swear on Transformice just go out swearing at, Mum, Dad, teachers. other students ect, why you ask? Because the children don't understand the fact that the internet doesn't give you the right to be a dick, you see, it gives children a sense of freedom once they jump on the internet, it's like they leave the world for a short amount of time, that's why they need to learn the consequences of doing wrong on the internet.

And for those saying "Oh their parents should be watching/supervising them" Like seriously? The chat removes itself after a certain amount of other posts are made after it, so being able to monitor what your child says on the internet, (on this game) would be near impossible.

It's also a case of "Monkey see, monkey do" Kids see someone else doing it, they follow/do it too.

Fierying a dit :
...I.. I just.. feel ashamed of my community (Singapore) chat...
I know i am not mature at all yet but... I just see those.. young teenagers, swearing the heck they want and being ignorant is just like a irritation.
True that i can use the /ignore button but lets face it, we don't, because we find it entertaining to see someone less experienced then you are.

Everyday i just see the stupider ones getting bullied by the stupid ones, and then the less stupid ones join in the conversation and then suddenly everyone becomes stupid.
Each is trying to prove themselves right while the audience just keeps quiet and watch.

I know the other community will have worse but I.. I just need to know how these people live...

#924

Fierying a dit :
...I.. I just.. feel ashamed of my community (Singapore) chat...
I know i am not mature at all yet but... I just see those.. young teenagers, swearing the heck they want and being ignorant is just like an irritation.
True that i can use the /ignore button but lets face it, we don't, because we find it entertaining to see someone less experienced then you are.

Everyday i just see the stupider ones getting bullied by the stupid ones, and then the less stupid ones join in the conversation and then suddenly everyone becomes stupid.
Each is trying to prove themselves right while the audience just keeps quiet and watch.

I know the other community will have worse but I.. I just need to know how these people live...

i feel ashamed too because i'm in the exact age group that's being targeted
this pretty much sums up tfm i think because there's so many young people that watch older people swear like they wish so then they follow them. then more young people come on and see those young people swearing so they say "oh, it must be alright to swear on the internet then!"
the bullying problem is bad too because outright irl they tell people to not bully people yet they do and some aren't even punished
i'm not talking about -13 aged kids either that are bullying other people, i'm talking about people over the age of 13 as well since let's face the facts this community is shit

#925

Fierying a dit :
...I.. I just.. feel ashamed of my community (Singapore) chat...
I know i am not mature at all yet but... I just see those.. young teenagers, swearing the heck they want and being ignorant is just like an irritation.
True that i can use the /ignore button but lets face it, we don't, because we find it entertaining to see someone less experienced then you are.

Everyday i just see the stupider ones getting bullied by the stupid ones, and then the less stupid ones join in the conversation and then suddenly everyone becomes stupid.
Each is trying to prove themselves right while the audience just keeps quiet and watch.

I know the other community will have worse but I.. I just need to know how these people live...

Internet exposes young people to swear words easily and since some don't know when to use them and when not, which results in unneccessary swearing.(Though i chose not to swear out loud at all)
Pretty much what most people said.

#926

I just feel like some of them abuse that they can swear, as in most games they can't and will be automatically muted or banned

#927

if only there was something that existed that could prevent them from posting certain words..... rather than allowing them to say whatever vulgarity they want and then having them maybe get in trouble if they're reported properly...... hmmmm

#928

Oh but there is. But /chat is considered a private chat and isn't moderateable.

#929

every chat can be moderated.

#930

My source on that is Yogiibear.

#931

Why are you being so confrontational again? Unneeded.

#932

I don't think she was being confrontational with that comment - moderators have said on multiple occasions that /chat rooms are not going to be moderated. I fail to see how giving the staff more to deal with by moderating these would help with the overall problem, if anything it'd just spread out the existing staff even more.

#933

Okay, what do mods even do then? I thought the job of mods were to moderate.

#934

Flufferbug a dit :
Please no. This would ruin my life. No joke, I'm addicted to tfm. My life would be ruined forever. (Plus, most people under the age of 13 buy fraises. Like my friend who is 9 buys 500 fraises once a week. So, that'd mean less money for you.. sorry if that's off-topic.)
At least wait till August..

Not to act all full of myself or whatever, but I don't think people should be banned if they're under the age of 13 unless they do something wrong. For instance, I'm 12, sure, under 13, but three of my friends asked what my age was; two of them were 17 and one was 15 or 16, I'm not sure. I replied with honesty, and I told them that I was 12. They were shocked, especially one of the 17 year olds who thought I was her age, as I recall. Although they said this, I personally do not think that I am that mature. I don't think I act 17, more like 13 or 14, at the most.. I think everyone, whether the age of 10 or 14 or 18, has their immature and mature moments. For example, I'm under 13 but I can act mature when I want to. At times I act immature, but usually only around my close friends. Those who are older also act very immature, and they are the main ones who joke about rape, even though it's obviously not even funny. If transformice decided to ban all 13-'s, then Transformice would be breaking a bunch of people's hearts and wasting a lot of people's money, and there definitely would be many complaints.

Plus, if you IP banned them.. Well, I have the same IP as my two older sisters who play Transformice, and they would be so mad if they got banned because their little sister was under-aged.

Yay for more long paragraphs! :D

^
(I posted earlier about how I think it's a good thing under-aged people can play this game.)

I've had a really tough life, and when I was 8 I started playing computer games. I played a few creative pixel games, and thankfully; they were my rescue.
If it wouldn't have been for these little games, I would've probably ended up suiciding, or becoming a violent, criminal person.
I did develop an addiction for these games, and the internet in general... But that was still better than the other option.
And nowadays; everyone play computer/video games. And if the under-aged people can't play GOOD, creative, rather peaceful games life Transformice... Then they will simply start playing violent non-creative games such as: Assassin's Creed, Grand Theft Auto, Slenderman and so on...

And let me put down a few facts for you:
No matter how much people say "video-games don't make us violent", the truth still remains that they actually DO make us violent.
They help us develop anger issues, hatred and whatnot. And wasn't the world a LOT more peaceful and pleasant during the 90's?
When I was underaged, kids showed RESPECT for older people, and they would NEVER dare to curse or insult an older person. Back then, we played things such as Mario, Crash Bandicoot, QBert and so on...
But now... Just look at the world. 10-Year-olds insult their parents, they shout "whore" at their mothers, and abuse their younger siblings. And sadly, insults are one of the first things children learn in life.

I'd say: [url=]Let the children stay sane, and polite by letting them play GOOD games, such as TFM[/url].

#935

Gullan a dit :

(I posted earlier about how I think it's a good thing under-aged people can play this game.)

I've had a really tough life, and when I was 8 I started playing computer games. I played a few creative pixel games, and thankfully; they were my rescue.
If it wouldn't have been for these little games, I would've probably ended up suiciding, or becoming a violent, criminal person.
I did develop an addiction for these games, and the internet in general... But that was still better than the other option.
And nowadays; everyone play computer/video games. And if the under-aged people can't play GOOD, creative, rather peaceful games life Transformice... Then they will simply start playing violent non-creative games such as: Assassin's Creed, Grand Theft Auto, Slenderman and so on...

And let me put down a few facts for you:
No matter how much people say "video-games don't make us violent", the truth still remains that they actually DO make us violent.
They help us develop anger issues, hatred and whatnot. And wasn't the world a LOT more peaceful and pleasant during the 90's?
When I was underaged, kids showed RESPECT for older people, and they would NEVER dare to curse or insult an older person. Back then, we played things such as Mario, Crash Bandicoot, QBert and so on...
But now... Just look at the world. 10-Year-olds insult their parents, they shout "whore" at their mothers, and abuse their younger siblings. And sadly, insults are one of the first things children learn in life.

Well firstly, insults are far from the first things children "learn" in life if they're brought up properly. Secondly, "No matter how much people say "video-games don't make us violent", the truth still remains that they actually DO make us violent." Supports my point that children under the age of 13 are not ready to face the violence/vulgarity that can be said in tfm's open chat. It's scientifically proven that underage minds can be effected very poorly by this. It's very concerning for me, because I very much would like my little sister to play this and because of this problem... i just can't let her. So perhaps not banning everyone underage but changing the rules and tweaking the language filter to ... actually filter? Despite being able to make friends on the internet and have your "life" saved, other people could make enemies and have their "life" ruined.....

#936

Spookshow a dit :
"video-games don't make us violent", the truth still remains that they actually DO make us violent." Supports my point that children under the age of 13 are not ready to face the violence/vulgarity that can be said in tfm's open chat.

So in other words: You want to create a law world-wide that children under the age of 13 wouldn't be allowed to play [url=]any[/url] virtual games?

I'll let you know right away: That won't happen.

So when it comes to choosing what type of game a kid should be playing; everyone would choose TFM over things like GTA or Assassin's Creed.
Enough said.

#937

Uh... i didn't say that.... LOLWUT.
Games already have age limits and ratings to them......

Rating Categories:

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EARLY CHILDHOOD
Content is intended for young children.

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EVERYONE
Content is generally suitable for all ages. May contain minimal cartoon, fantasy or mild violence and/or infrequent use of mild language.

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EVERYONE 10+
Content is generally suitable for ages 10 and up. May contain more cartoon, fantasy or mild violence, mild language and/or minimal suggestive themes.

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TEEN
Content is generally suitable for ages 13 and up. May contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling and/or infrequent use of strong language.

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MATURE
Content is generally suitable for ages 17 and up. May contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content and/or strong language.

RATING PENDING
Not yet assigned a final ESRB rating. Appears only in advertising, marketing and promotional materials related to a game that is expected to carry an ESRB rating, and should be replaced by a game's rating once it has been assigned.

GTA AND ASSASINS CREED ARE rated "M" for mature.

#938

Shamousey a dit :
I don't think she was being confrontational with that comment - moderators have said on multiple occasions that /chat rooms are not going to be moderated. I fail to see how giving the staff more to deal with by moderating these would help with the overall problem, if anything it'd just spread out the existing staff even more.

Yes, thank you Liam for reading my mind lol.
I went to Yogiibear with an issue in a community/country chat and was told it was considered private and they couldn't moderate it. So you know what I did? I used the ignore system as that is what it is there for.

I don't see what an AMERICAN rating system has to do with anything though?
And yeah sure GTA and Assassin's Creed are rated M but kids play em anyway. So you've really shot yourself in the foot with that.

#939

Spookshow a dit :
Uh... i didn't say that.... LOLWUT.
Games already have age limits and ratings to them......

That's pretty much how you're expressing yourself.
TFM is one of the few good games out there, why would one want to make it unavailable for kids? As that would mean they would switch over to using violent games.

#940

It technically should be unavailable though given COPPA rules.
They're not gonna "swap" to violent games though. There's still a shitton of games for kids out there (Neopets, Animal Jam, ClubPenguin, whatever kids play nowadays. It was always Neopets and Nick.com for me lol)

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