This is a interesting theory I thought I should share with everyone to disscuss.

It is the idea that everything in this would no matter what it is is absolutely not 100% true, it is at the maximum, 99.99% true.

Where am I going with this?
Well think of this, 2 + 2 = 4 right? Wrong! Says the 99.99% theory, because of this it says during the creation of numbers, something could have easily gone wrong where 2 + 2 = 5 but someone got it wrong and no one really cared or noticed and then it just caught on.

So now look at all these other situations.

Tig made the game Trasformice right? WRONG! Says the 99.99% theory! In this situation tig did not create the game, yet actualy copied it off from someone else! He is lieing everytime he says he made the game! So you cannot know for 100% sure he actualy made the game.

Of course like it says, it's only 99.99% true so you can assume tig made Trasformice, and 2 + 2 = 4. You now however, know this may not be the case after all, just not likely it isn't the case.

So now you know all about this interesting theory someone whom I do not know the name of made, whats some things that can only be 99.99% true? Give out the reasons why they were not true! And if anyone is to claim something of being 100% true and prooven by science just remember this!

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because of this it says during the creation of ______, something could have easily gone wrong during that time frame...

Remember, what made that thing you say 100% true may not be true itself there go causeing a chain reaction. Want to proove this theory wrong anyway? Sure just try, mention something here thats apparently 100% true and see if anyone can come up with anything to say why it's only 99.99% true at the max! Just be prepared to lose!

So anyway, on to the creation of 99.99%'s, whats something you can think of?

you have WAY too much time on your hands.. but very interesting..

Zackybear a dit :

you have WAY too much time on your hands.. but very interesting..

Thats not compleately true, it could easily be you do not find it interesting yet say you do simply because i said it was. (See what I did there?)

Also, about that, that may not be true also! I may not be finding it interesting either but can't think up the exact word I want to describe it!

Wait hold on, that may not be true also! It could very well be I thought of a word but was to scared to use it because I wasn't sure of what it meant!

Ps, I can go on forever, hue hue hue
Ps, or mabey I can't, after all the 99.99% theory says the theory may not be true, but can be assumed it is.

do you have a tl;dr to this because numbers confuse me :(

What's 99.99% divided by 3? That's right, 33.33%...that's also 1/3. 1/3 times 3 (we divided it by 3 and now i'm reversing the operation to return it to normal) is 1. 1 in percentage is 100%. You're wrong.

(Conversely you may argue that what you said is 99.99% true and therefore, by my logic, 100% true, creating a logical contradiction between the two statements. Since I can provide factual evidence for mine, then I believe I win and your statement continues to be a fallacy)

Johnlantern a dit :

What's 99.99% divided by 3? That's right, 33.33%...that's also 1/3. 1/3 times 3 (we divided it by 3 and now i'm reversing the operation to return it to normal) is 1. 1 in percentage is 100%. You're wrong.

Mousechris a dit :

Well think of this, 2 + 2 = 4 right? Wrong! Says the 99.99% theory, because of this it says during the creation of numbers, something could have easily gone wrong where 2 + 2 = 5 but someone got it wrong and no one really cared or noticed and then it just caught on.

Seems quite similer to this situation I mentioned.

Remember folks, math is only assumed true by the creater of that math format. So it was made by a brain, but no one knows whos brain to be sure and hence forth.

Mousechris a dit :

Seems quite similer to this situation I mentioned.

Remember folks, math is only assumed true by the creater of that math format. So it was made by a brain, but no one knows whos brain to be sure and hence forth.

To respond to your 2 + 2 = 5...The character/word we use for four entities, or numbers, could differ, but no matter what language you happen to speak, an number of entities we call 2 plus that same number of entities 2 will always be that same number of entities that we happen to call 4.

Johnlantern a dit :

Since I can provide factual evidence for mine

All science is only 99.99% true due to it being created, like I said something can go wrong during a creation where X was actualy true but Y was confused for it and caught on anyway without anyone knowing. Theres simply no way to tell but by assuming.

Johnlantern a dit :

To respond to your 2 + 2 = 5...The character/word we use for four entities, or numbers, could differ, but no matter what language you happen to speak, an number of entities we call 2 plus that same number of entities 2 will always be that same number of entities that we happen to call 4.

Not true either, you have to remember, something can go wrong during the creation of what is being created.

Mousechris a dit :

All science is only 99.99% true due to it being created, like I said something can go wrong during a creation where X was actualy true but Y was confused for it and caught on anyway without anyone knowing. Theres simply no way to tell but by assuming.

I can count my fingers and see that there are so many fingers when I put two sets of an arbitrary fingers together. If we erased all elements of what we know about mathematics, we would, inevitabily, come to the same conclusion about what happens when you add those two sets together. When you do say that math is only 99.99% true, you're saying that people would believe it to be one way when in fact they are not aware of the mathematical truth, or fallacy, of their statements. Math was never wrong in the first place. It's what we believed about math. The truth will always remain the truth so long as it is.

If gravity happened to change at this instantaneous moment so that we could all fly, the truth that gravity COULD in fact fluctuate as it does in this hypothetical situation, would have never changed, it would be, in fact, what we initially believed about the truth of gravity that would be a false statement.

Johnlantern a dit :

I can count my fingers and see that there are so many fingers when I put two sets of an arbitrary fingers together. If we erased all elements of what we know about mathematics, we would, inevitabily, come to the same conclusion about what happens when you add those two sets together. When you do say that math is only 99.99% true, you're saying that people would believe it to be one way when in fact they are not aware of the mathematical truth, or fallacy, of their statements. Math was never wrong in the first place. It's what we believed about math. The truth will always remain the truth so long as it is.

Doesn't matter not true, theres a extra finger in a blind spot no one can see and we can only assume we believe the 100% true math.

Johnlantern a dit :

If gravity happened to change at this instantaneous moment so that we could all fly, the truth that gravity COULD in fact fluctuate as it does in this hypothetical situation, would have never changed, it would be, in fact, what we initially believed about the truth of gravity that would be a false statement.

But gravity both can or cannot change due to it being the future, you don't know what happens when gravity changes or you do know what happens when gravity changes because secretly it changed when everyone but yourself was alseep

Ps, I can just go on forever, this is fun

Mousechris a dit :

Doesn't matter not true, theres a extra find in a blind spot no one can see and we can only assume we believe the 100% true math.
But gravity both can or cannot change due to it being the future, you don't know what happens when gravity changes or you do know what happens when gravity changes because secretly it changed when everyone but yourself was alseep

Ps, I can just go on forever, this is fun

I was portraying that humans could be unaware of the truth, however, the truth would not change from what it actually is. So everything that IS truth is in fact true. However, if it is not true, we are only believing a fallacy for we have yet to discover the actual truth. This means that everything that is truth is 100% true, it's just undiscovered.

Johnlantern a dit :

I was portraying that humans could be unaware of the truth, however, the truth would not change from what it actually is. So everything that IS truth is in fact true. However, if it is not true, we are only believing a fallacy for we have yet to discover the actual truth. This means that everything that is truth is 100% true, it's just undiscovered.

But undiscovered truths are still true are they not? And if so tho what would be really true?

Mousechris a dit :

But undiscovered truths are still true are they not? And if so tho what would be really true?

Yes they would.

Johnlantern a dit :

Yes they would.

I'll continue argueing tomorro, I gtg, my parents want me off computer.

(Ps, but what if other people think they do not believe thats true that apparenly two truths can be true at the same time, night, i'll reply tomorro to whatever you say. Or mabey someone else will you can only believe 99.99%)

Mousechris a dit :

I'll continue argueing tomorro, I gtg, my parents want me off computer.

(Ps, but what if other people think they do not believe thats true that apparenly two truths can be true at the same time, night, i'll reply tomorro to whatever you say. Or mabey someone else will you can only believe 99.99%)

What people believe does not affect the absolute truth.
Goodnight, Pontius Pilate.

Johnlantern a dit :

What people believe does not affect the absolute truth.
Goodnight, Pontius Pilate.

This. There is always truth, it is our perception of what is true or not that is subject to change. I'm sorry but the 99.99% truth theory is flawed :P

Johnlantern a dit :

What's 99.99% divided by 3? That's right, 33.33%...that's also 1/3. 1/3 times 3 (we divided it by 3 and now i'm reversing the operation to return it to normal) is 1. 1 in percentage is 100%. You're wrong.

Well that is just some awful maths... 33.33% =/= 1/3. 33.33.....% may be considered as equal to 1/3 which multipled by 3 gives 99.99.....% which can be shown to be 100% however that is not what this topic is discussing. Mousechris put forward the philosophical idea (although badly construed) that nothing can be proven without doubt.

It's 99.9% efficiency, not 99.9% truth. It isn't applicable to static facts.

there's only a 99.99% the theory works ^^

a=b
a² = ab
a² + a² = a² + ab
2a² = a² + ab
2a² - 2ab = a² + ab - 2ab
2a² - 2ab = a² - ab
2(a² - ab) = 1(a² - ab)
2 = 1

problem?