Define Maturity

I'd just like to start off saying that I do not want this thread to become a place where we insult others about their maturity. That would be stupid. That's not the point of this thread. The point of this thread is to ask ourselves this question of what is maturity so that maybe, just maybe, we might start to treat each other. Please delete/lock this thread if it ever comes to the point where people start being mean to each other.

Again, please do not be mean to each other on this thread.

I hope that you'll get bored of reading this and realize that I want people to be nice on this thread, it's an off-topic discussion, not a bashing thread.

So as someone who actively participates in internet activities, I have seen, no matter where I go, people throwing around words such as "You're immature", "You need to grow up", or "If you were more mature maybe you wouldn't act this way". Yes, sometimes people do act immature, but what do we really define to be mature?

Just a few topics about maturity:

Transformice, I think is an incredible mix of many cultures, countries, nations, whatever you'd like to call us, which means maturity may be differently defined depending on where live. Do you think maturity is different depending on where you live? How do you define maturity?

I've also seen maturity linked with the concept of one being more serious. Seriousness, can of course, reach some extremes to which a person may say something hurtful towards another person or base their conscious entirely upon what they think is to be 'logical' or 'correct'. Could being too serious and hurting someone's feelings be defined as social immaturity, and hence an aspect of being immature? Upon the same subject, could someone who holds themselve to be someone of upmost seriousness be mature even if they lack sufficient intellect? On the other hand, could someone who does not hold themselves to be serious, maybe even to the point where you assume them to always be joking, but hold some intellect to them be considered mature? Is there a point where joking goes too far so that one is considered to be not mature? What kind of jokes might be considered immature?

Does having a job, moving out, starting a family, or the lack thereof, define one's maturity? I have personally seen people with some of these things that people may not hold what I call maturity. Is maturity different for every person? How do you know if someone has fully matured in comparison to another person?

I'd also like to add this, does telling someone to be more mature mean that you are mature yourself? If you were to meet people over the internet in real life, would you act as mature/immature as you portray yourself to be? Would you still tell some people that they need to grow up or would you feel comfortable doing so? Estentially would you hold the same level of maturity in real life (or do you)? Is it more acceptable to tell people that they are immature or stupid over the internet?

I consider myself to be mature in most regards, except in some social aspects (I joke around a lot; must be weird to see a serious side of me now right?)

Sorry for a lot of questions, I was bored and had a lot of things I wanted to talk about. So talk.

maturity is having an open mind

Not insulting over everything. (Heck, not insulting at all, or starting/keeping a flamewar going for the sake of continuing it)

There are many, many more things I'd like to say, but I'll refrain.

Soakitup a dit :
maturity is having an open mind

I'm having a hard time saying that what you have just said is wrong, so it's probably closer to right.

I'd say though, if someone had an open mind, Let's say one decided to drink and drive, and listened to/entertained the ideas (based on the definition) of the fact that it might not be safe to drink and drive. However, they decided to make the choice to drink and drive anyways and ended up running over someone.

I guess it could even be applied to this game. Let's say someone decided to blatently disregard the rules (let's say hack) but understood the concept that hacking may ruin the fun of the game of other people and the consequences behind it (hence having and open mind to the fact that rules actually are in place for a reason, to keep order and such).

Are these considered bad decisions by a mature person or an immature act in general?

I'm not saying you're entirely wrong, but you're making me agree with you. haha

Lagiacruss a dit :
Not insulting over everything. (Heck, not insulting at all, or starting/keeping a flamewar going for the sake of continuing it)

There are many, many more things I'd like to say, but I'll refrain.

I like the idea behind this and thought of it too. But what about those who insult someone unintentionally, maybe through a joke? One can, of course, apologize for the act afterwards, but does that make them mature in the end? If someone were to make a joke as such maybe about some situation that you're in but then apologize for it afterwards, would that affect how mature you believe them to be?

My mind ticks.

Johnlantern a dit :
I'm not saying you're entirely wrong, but you're making me agree with you. haha
I like the idea behind this and thought of it too. But what about those who insult someone unintentionally, maybe through a joke? One can, of course, apologize for the act afterwards, but does that make them mature in the end? If someone were to make a joke as such maybe about some situation that you're in but then apologize for it afterwards, would that affect how mature you believe them to be?

My mind ticks.

Now you've got me hooked.

Feeling bad and apologizing about it, is in-fact, mature. It shows that you can own up to your misdeed and swallow your pride to bring yourself to apologize to the victim of your harsh words.

HOWEVER, if the person slinging the insults does NOT feel bad about what they're doing, and just insults away without caring, then they definitely are NOT acting mature.

But yes, apologizing for it afterwards means everything.

Defining maturity is almost as hard as defining logic.
No offence..

Johnlantern a dit :
I'm having a hard time saying that what you have just said is wrong, so it's probably closer to right.

I'd say though, if someone had an open mind, Let's say one decided to drink and drive, and listened to/entertained the ideas (based on the definition) of the fact that it might not be safe to drink and drive. However, they decided to make the choice to drink and drive anyways and ended up running over someone.

I guess it could even be applied to this game. Let's say someone decided to blatently disregard the rules (let's say hack) but understood the concept that hacking may ruin the fun of the game of other people and the consequences behind it (hence having and open mind to the fact that rules actually are in place for a reason, to keep order and such).

Are these considered bad decisions by a mature person or an immature act in general?

I'm not saying you're entirely wrong, but you're making me agree with you. haha
I like the idea behind this and thought of it too. But what about those who insult someone unintentionally, maybe through a joke? One can, of course, apologize for the act afterwards, but does that make them mature in the end? If someone were to make a joke as such maybe about some situation that you're in but then apologize for it afterwards, would that affect how mature you believe them to be?

My mind ticks.

idek anymore wOT

Lagiacruss a dit :
Now you've got me hooked.

Feeling bad and apologizing about it, is in-fact, mature. It shows that you can own up to your misdeed and swallow your pride to bring yourself to apologize to the victim of your harsh words.

HOWEVER, if the person slinging the insults does NOT feel bad about what they're doing, and just insults away without caring, then they definitely are NOT acting mature.

But yes, apologizing for it afterwards means everything.

But when someone apologizes to you after saying something like that, how do you treat them? (teaching people to grow up by thought) Just as another note. Could doing such an action jepordize a job opportunity because someone doesn't think you're mature? Does such an act hold more bearing on your maturity if you don't know the person?

Soakitup a dit :
idek anymore wOT

Sorry I took college argumentiave writing and got de A. I have a lot to think about.

Kiokosama a dit :
Defining maturity is almost as hard as defining logic.
No offence..

You're telling me. That's why I posted this thread.

The ability to forgive and ask forgiveness.
to me, at least.

#10

Xdarkasasin a dit :
The ability to forgive and ask forgiveness.
to me, at least.

I can't ask forgiveness

Usually I don't even think about that irl
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The first step to be mature, in my opinion at least, is to be able to be serious when you need to be, and not fool with people's feelings in an evil manner

#11

Darkraiking a dit :
I can't ask forgiveness

Usually I don't even think about that irl
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The first step to be mature, in my opinion at least, is to be able to be serious when you need to be, and not fool with people's feelings in an evil manner

oh hell
my family is screwed.

#12

To me matureaty is when you can understand one another

#13

Xdarkasasin a dit :
The ability to forgive and ask forgiveness.
to me, at least.

I see that. Forgiveness is usually a good sign that someone has reached the beyond the most elementary stages of maturity. But I've also had situations in my life where someone has treated me so badly that I cannot continue to have a relationship with them despite the fact that I may have forgiven them so many times. (or so it seems)

Is there a point where you're not supposed to forgive someone for something that would still retain the same maturity level or a certain number of times? Or maybe even make the decision to excempt someone from your life in order to maintain a state of peace with less quarrelling? But would that be considered a mature decision or a logical decision? What cuts the line between mature and logical?

#14

Johnlantern a dit :
I see that. Forgiveness is usually a good sign that someone has reached the beyond the most elementary stages of maturity. But I've also had situations in my life where someone has treated me so badly that I cannot continue to have a relationship with them despite the fact that I may have forgiven them so many times. (or so it seems)

Is there a point where you're not supposed to forgive someone for something that would still retain the same maturity level or a certain number of times? Or maybe even make the decision to excempt someone from your life in order to maintain a state of peace with less quarrelling? But would that be considered a mature decision or a logical decision? What cuts the line between mature and logical?

Forgiving someone doesn't mean you have to stay associated with them.

#15

Darkraiking a dit :

The first step to be mature, in my opinion at least, is to be able to be serious when you need to be, and not fool with people's feelings in an evil manner

I've seen many situations where someone has come into a non-serious situation that has quickly become a serious one because someone may get offended (which can sometimes make it even be hard to judge if it's okay to be jestful at times) I'm not saying you're wrong, but there's always a weird part about saying that there is a good and bad time for being unserious. :P sorry i feel like this doesn't make sense what I just said

#16

Johnlantern a dit :
I've seen many situations where someone has come into a non-serious situation that has quickly become a serious one because someone may get offended (which can sometimes make it even be hard to judge if it's okay to be jestful at times) I'm not saying you're wrong, but there's always a weird part about saying that there is a good and bad time for being unserious. :P sorry i feel like this doesn't make sense what I just said

Yeah It's just, I think someone who just barges in saying random crap during a serious situation(i.e, someone died, or two friends are clashing) isn't mature at all

That, or is downright oblivious

#17

Darkraiking a dit :
Yeah It's just, I think someone who just barges in saying random crap during a serious situation(i.e, someone died, or two friends are clashing) isn't mature at all

That, or is downright oblivious

Yes I agree. It can be kind of hard to recognize those some of those situations over the internet sometimes though, which kinda sucks. (Sorta had this thread for us all realize this happens to all of us...getting misinterpreted ;; usually not as common in real life)

Xdarkasasin a dit :
Forgiving someone doesn't mean you have to stay associated with them.

I agree with this too. I've had this idea based on factors I'm not allowed to mention in the forum, but I was wondering what others think.

#18

Johnlantern a dit :
Yes I agree. It can be kind of hard to recognize those some of those situations over the internet sometimes though, which kinda sucks. (Sorta had this thread for us all realize this happens to all of us...getting misinterpreted ;; usually not as common in real life)

I agree with this too. I've had this idea based on factors I'm not allowed to mention in the forum, but I was wondering what others think.

#19

You are mature when you know what you think

#20

I feel that mature is being yourself. Immature is when you are being someone else.

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