Maybe this would be a good idea? Remove shaman from the bomb maps. The sham is not needed on the those maps, and most mice is always killed. Not so fair for the sham, as his shamturn is ruined by bombs killing all the mice.

What do you think about this?

No support. Some mice don't like the bombs, and rely on the shaman helping them by using ghost planks and totems.

Tranna a dit :

No support. Some mice don't like the bombs, and rely on the shaman helping them by using ghost planks and totems.

You do realise that its almost impossible for the sham to help on some maps? Like the one with anvils and bombs. Just kills the mice, shamturn and saves lost for the shaman. Not fair, in my opinion.

That's the point. It's suppose to be challenging to everyone, and even if the shamans were removed from those bomb maps, mice will still die.

Wolfpuppeh a dit :

That's the point. It's suppose to be challenging to everyone, and even if the shamans were removed from those bomb maps, mice will still die.

Of course they would still die, but the shaman wouldn't loser any saves... It's not fair for the shaman to have his/hers saves killed, by bombs. ;p

Well, a lot of things wont be fair in map situations
Shams can loose their saves by
-Bomb maps, as expalined
-Crash/laggy maps
-Shaman mistakes
-Double shaman duels
The sham can have their turn next time if they lost too many saves, so it's even.

Wolfpuppeh a dit :

Well, a lot of things wont be fair in map situations
Shams can loose their saves by
-Bomb maps, as expalined
-Crash/laggy maps
-Shaman mistakes
-Double shaman duels
The sham can have their turn next time if they lost too many saves, so it's even.

Yeah, there is a lot of things that can ruin a shamturn. But why should shams lose saves because of bombs? It's so not necessary. But I'm sure you love to sham on bomb maps.

/support
I lost all my saves once just due to bombs.

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Skalder a dit :

You do realise that its almost impossible for the sham to help on some maps? Like the one with anvils and bombs. Just kills the mice, shamturn and saves lost for the shaman. Not fair, in my opinion.

The map you're looking for is map 33.

Wolfpuppeh a dit :

It's suppose to be challenging to everyone, and even if the shamans were removed from those bomb maps, mice will still die.

thanks post #4 for saving my breath

/nosupport

Ae_86 a dit :

Wolfpuppeh a dit :VoirMasquer

It's suppose to be challenging to everyone, and even if the shamans were removed from those bomb maps, mice will still die.

thanks post #4 for saving my breath

/nosupport

the map with the bombs and anvils should be removed. either the whole map, the bombs, or the anvils. none of the other maps that have bombs and sham are necessary to remove because most of the time u get the saves unless your not very good or dont use the balloons

/support

I believe it depends on the map, there are some which provide an enjoyable challenge, but maps like 33 have to either be removed or at least become no-shaman, as they are auto mass death and there's almost nothing the shaman can do to save the mice.

Mythical43 a dit :

Ae_86 a dit :VoirMasquer

Wolfpuppeh a dit :VoirMasquer

It's suppose to be challenging to everyone, and even if the shamans were removed from those bomb maps, mice will still die.

thanks post #4 for saving my breath

/nosupport

the map with the bombs and anvils should be removed. either the whole map, the bombs, or the anvils. none of the other maps that have bombs and sham are necessary to remove because most of the time u get the saves unless your not very good or dont use the balloons

some maps are exceptional like the one you refer to that I can agree to, but to rest of it as a whole I am still in denial for reasons above to make it no sham.

mostly beginners would find them hard (similar to many other maps theyd struggle with), but if youve been playing for some time and dont know how to deal with most part of them then thats on you. its supposed to be a test of your skills in various conditions.