I know there have been many threads about it, but we all mean to make a moot point; any room past the number 2 is literally dead or dying. In every single game mode. However, I am speaking as a representative of the English 2 server. I don't know if the others are having the same issue. I have also noticed many foreign players are speaking their native languages instead of english on the en 2 server, wehnt hey should be in the global english 1 server.

I know soem reasons for this are obvious but I'll point a few;

#1: PIRATE SERVERS. I cannot stress this enough. The biggest one is very well known, though I will not mention its name and I ask that no one does on this thread. Why? Because greedy little kids who think this game is too hard will try and get on it to take the easy route. Over time with all of the updtes and new items, as well as the rising prices of them in CHEESE, and adding fraises to the game, these servers have sky rocketed in popularity and have slowly drained the official game's numbers. And yes, this means Private servers as well. I do not care if you think it's cool to make one and have people flood in. You are taking away this game's chances of continuing, and more importantly you are giving everyone this false sense that everything in life will just be given to them. My favorite part about this game is that you EARN what you get through HARD WORK. You have to EARN Hard Mode by saving 1000 mice, which is no easy task. And most importantly, it feels GREAT knowing that you were able to earn that much cheese. TO know you're getting better and better at the game. The pirate servers take that away. THey take away the goal of the game- to work for what you want. And thus they make it pointless.

#2: FRAISES. I get it, the game needs money to get all these neat up grades. But ever since fraises were added, any item with that tag is either an event item, fraises exclusively, or the cheese price is a whopping 10k in cheese. And that is what drives players to go to pirate servers. It's a slap in the face to people who worked for that cheese, to know that when they spent hours getting it someone just went and bought it in two seconds. It makes new players or people having a hard time, or that have had a hard time since the start, feel as if it's impossible to get the things they want in the shop. And then they look up to these people who have all of these items, thinking they're professionals and know what to do, when half of the time that is not the case. Those people don't know what to do, and get berated for it, being called names because they got their items through fraises. I get it, that's why people should read each other's profiles. But a lot of people are too ignorant to, or just don't know how to use that function.

#3: The EASTER EVENT. I don't know if a lot of you know about this, but one easter everyone would go to vanilla on an event map and have to chase a player that was turned into a bunny rabbit. And people wanted that released as a skin because it was so cute and adorable. Myself included. But this is transformice not animal jam. ((I hate that game with a passion for its poor community))
THis was even introduced beforehand with a 2011 valentines event where 1 player would get to play as a flying cupid mouse in vanilla maps, and shoot mice with arrows to turn them pink to recieve gifts. But back then it wasn't as big of a deal.
And then after easter, the vampire maps were introduced. Players WANTED to have a vampire, bunny, or whatever avatar. Because of how cute their designs were.
Since pirate servers offered these, they ran off to see them and may or may not have returned.
I don't know how to fix this. All I can say is perhaps it would be just an idea to add them as a skin, but that wouldn't really help the name of the game and their prices would probably be rediculous. Perhaps a return of the easter bunny for the easter events might calm it down.

#4: INFLATION
Pretty much everyone is dealing with the inflation of the economy, and I can see that as a reason for fraises not only being introduced, but being the main reason as to why the prices on skins and what not are so expensive. But because players are leaving the server to find private ones WITH those skins for nothing, whatever money goes into this game is cut down by how ever many people leave the server and stop paying fraises for it.

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My main point being; if something doesn't change soon, everyone will flood to the private servers and this game will die faster and faster. Just yesterday in EN2, survivor2 HAD ONLY FIVE PEOPLE. And then ALL OF US left to play in a vanilla room, WHICH WE FOUND EMPTY.
Normally numbered rooms like 2, 3, 4 are dying or dead.
That's my piece. Now what's yours?

I've played in room 6 en1 since 2011, amd I've never seen it go under 15 mice unless due to server restarts or crashes. But just recently I have been logging in to find the room completely dead or with only a few mice. Back in the day, numbered rooms up into the 20s would always be filled, and now even single digit rooms are dying out.

[insert bigger rant here]

There have been quite a few positive changes made to tfm actually, most notably the music add on, that have been made for players. You're talking about room 2 on the EN2 server...Personally EN doesn't even need/deserve a second server, it's sort of a joke to me.

As for pirate servers, it's not like tfm admins/mods endorse them. Yes I'm sure it takes SOME players away, but honestly, I can't think of a single friend on tfm who plays on pirate servers because they think it's 'better' in some way. I highly doubt THAT many players are leaving just because of these pirate servers you're talking about.

Yes, some items are over priced cheese wise as compared to fraises, but if you really want a fur/item, decide for yourself if spending money on a virtual mouse game is important. The biggest joke of any price difference is the customization cheese vs fraises price but i think everyone knows that.

Tfm is what it is. If you don't like that there aren't as many players on, then maybe you should invite some of your friends to play with you and stop making complaints about the game.

Also just wondering, is buying outfits all this game is about for you?

what does real world inflation have to do with fixed price items in the shop

Haruhitastic a dit :

what does real world inflation have to do with fixed price items in the shop

I think they should lower virtual cheese prices to adjust to the struggling members of the real economy.

i usually am in room three in en2 or music rooms, but i have to agree rooms are dying
room three is usually in the low twenties or high tens

Let me explain.... specific updates need funding. Most of this tfm staff can or could have done on their own wit their own money. However, inflation ((printing too many dollars instead of circulating it)) caused the value of the dolar to go down. So if you wanted to buy a loaf of bread and it costs one dollar, now it would cost 2 dollars. Although we're talking in billions and what not in inflation. Thus, the tfm staff can't fund themselves out of pocket and hope to get things working. They need money from us, the users. And thus, fraises were added.

note: en2 has never been as populated as it used to be before the server merge, and considering there wasn't ever an annoucement for this server afaik, it probably won't ever be anywhere as close, either. tfm still gets thousands of unique viewers everyday, but according to a recent q&a, the popularity of people playing from the us is far lower than that of brazil or something--in fact, we're second to the last in terms of numbers.

every single item in the shop, with the exception of a few related to irl events, has been or is available in the shop for cheese

stuff that currently cost fraises only are event items that were available for free (pre-carnaval 2014 event), or were sold for cheese

every single item in the shop is completely aesthetic; it has zero effect on your gameplay. being able to get an item in "hundreds of hours" as opposed to a few seconds does not make someone more "professional", and if you think that it does, you're wrong.
on top of all of that, while you're amassing the cheese to buy an item, you're also playing the game, which should be the whole point for playing a game in the first place. if you just want to play dressup, go play gaia or something

the admins don't re-release many 'major' holiday events (ie. broomsticks for hween 2010, cupid for vday 2011, etc), because if they did, it would get boring fast. the bunny skin did not have all of the normal animations that a mouse does, and they didn't want to create them, or turn the game into transforbunnies or whatever.

Cloudandis a dit :

Let me explain.... specific updates need funding. Most of this tfm staff can or could have done on their own wit their own money. However, inflation ((printing too many dollars instead of circulating it)) caused the value of the dolar to go down. So if you wanted to buy a loaf of bread and it costs one dollar, now it would cost 2 dollars. Although we're talking in billions and what not in inflation. Thus, the tfm staff can't fund themselves out of pocket and hope to get things working. They need money from us, the users. And thus, fraises were added.

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what if i told you more than americans played this game and not everybody has money problems

For the payments Issue, this usually is where I feel most people sound like complaining kids cause their parents do not let them waste money on this stuff.
The payments help fund the whole game, even in small amounts it adds to things. Keeping a game running isnt easy, even if its a cutesy little one like this.

I pay to play World of warcraft and Star wars the old republic. Two differences are World of warcraft is literally pay to play, whilst SWTOR is choose to pay, I choose because I prefer the big bonuses that come with paying. Would you rather it turned onto one of these to fund? Or a small option to pay for things to buy a few nice items quicker?

Ttnubtt a dit :

I've played in room 6 en1 since 2011, amd I've never seen it go under 15 mice unless due to server restarts or crashes. But just recently I have been logging in to find the room completely dead or with only a few mice. Back in the day, numbered rooms up into the 20s would always be filled, and now even single digit rooms are dying out.

[insert bigger rant here]

yea i remember room 6 en1. 6GOM!!