I've been in many rooms where it takes more than 90 minutes for a map to come. I hope TFM fix this bug soon since it's really a waste of time in those rooms.

Erm.. thats not a bug.. it comes randomly.

I think they can set the time for the map to come, like they said it should be around 40 minutes, but more than an hour is too long.

It's twenty minutes and then anywhere from 1 to 40, for a total of sixty. Have you timed it exactly?

yes I use the spreadsheet, and there are ppl updating it every minutes, 20% - 25% of the time it takes more than an hour for a map to come.

Those things aren't really reliable. I'd rather hear a first person account of it taking longer than sixty minutes, not a "spreadsheet."

Yea whatever, just hope the staff see this and make some fix.

Not to be rude; but they're not going to take a "spreadsheet" as proof because they're not completely accurate. Sit in a room and time it, and if you can prove it that way, then you would have a point. ^^'

I don't need to prove this to you since there're already many people who have acknowledged this delay. Just get in game, then go to the event chat channel and ask any updater how many time the event map got delayed in a room (take longer than 1:10:00 to show up).

That can be cause by many different (non bug related reasons) reasons.

• the room could have gone below the required # of mice, causing the timer to reset
• the map could have played while nobody from the spreadsheet was there to update it
• most spreadsheets still use the old algorithm which only shows the map being able to play after 40 minutes, when now it can play after only 20 minutes

All of these reasons are caused by the spreadsheet not being updated properly. The only way to be 100% sure this is a bug, is to play in the room for the whole time and time it.

You should get in game and see how ppl work around the spreadsheet, there're often 2-3 active updaters and many people who spread in vanilla rooms to inform the change in number of players or when the event comes. We work with responsibility, I've never seen anyone who try to troll with the update. I myself have been in many rooms with more than 20 people and waited for more than 30 minutes in a room that already passed the event for more than 40 minutes according to the spreadsheet. And unlike you said about the spreadsheet only shows the map being able to play after 40 minutes, the spreadsheet shows the time of 10 - 12 vanilla rooms starting at 0:00:00 since the last event map played till it is played next in each room.

You're not paying attention to what I, or Nub are saying:

Play in a room for up to 90 minutes and time it. Do NOT use the spreadsheet as a basis for a bug report.

sigh...I rely on the spreadsheet because I did carefully observed how it works, so imo the event did take more than 60 minutes to come. If you don't trust me, it's you who should sit in a room and play for 90 minutes. :) I wonder if you ever try the spreadsheet to confirm that it's not reliable. -shrugs-

Nub just confirmed that it wasn't. Stop trying to prove that it is and listen. Do not use the spreadsheet as a basis for a bug report. They will tell you the exact same things I and Nub are.

Every time I've played for over ninety minutes I've had the map twice, and sometimes even three times. In fact, I just saw it twice on JP in the course of sixty minutes. Not to mention too if this WAS an issue, there would be way more threads.
So the issue is either you're not timing it right, or you're using the bloody spreadsheet which is unreliable to base a serious report on.
End of story.

yea, I don't really care what you say since you never tried to use the spreadsheet and give out your idea with no testing. And nobody mentions about this issue doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

The event is supposed to come from every 20-40 minutes, maybe if the number of mice becomes too much the room begins to lag which causes the event map to delay?
Also, the speadsheet is pretty reliable seeing that people announce the exact times that the event map has appeared, therefore making the speadsheet a very reliable source

I agree with Haruh and Nub -- the spreadsheet is unreliable. I use the spreadsheet, and there needs to be people in most/every room to record, but most are in rooms that are closer to the 60 minutes than room that are just opening up with 20 minutes. Also, some players don't like being in a room with low mice numbers so someone has to stay in there and wait for the map, and most rather be in a room with a lot of chatter, more mice, etc.

I frequently had to be the one -- the only one who would update for a room. What if I wasn't there? Updaters would mark it delayed, when it wasn't, and then someone would have to be stationed there to look out for the next map, when the map happened already, and players like you would say that it's a bug when it isn't.

Most people are there to farm, not to record, so it wouldn't be a priority for them to say in /chat updaters or /chat event that the event happened when they don't wanna waste time getting relics.

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I've never seen anyone who try to troll with the update.

Oh, dearest, that's funny. Over the course of a week, while I was in the chats and using the spreadsheet actively, there were at least four mis-happenings / trolls. Just because you've never seen it doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

It depends on the chat
/chat event is full of dishonest people wanting to fuck it up
Try /chat updaters

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Oh, dearest, that's funny. Over the course of a week, while I was in the chats and using the spreadsheet actively, there were at least four mis-happenings / trolls. Just because you've never seen it doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

I said I never seen one, I didn't affirm that it never happened :)
And my point isn't about the reliability of the spreadsheet, my point is there's a delay of the event map in some rooms.

Which you are using as a basis for the map coming. Unless you have sat in one room for at least ninety minutes, I'm not going to believe this report and I doubt admins will take it seriously.