So my idea is there to have a new types of cheese and holes to be implemented in editor and it would work like this:

IDEAS FOR CHEESE/HOLES

FAKE CHEESE/HOLE:

HOW TO MAKE IT
When you have more than 1 cheese/hole click a cheese/hole while in editor mode, it would show this interface, if you only have 1 cheese/hole it would be blurred out:



WHAT HAPPENS
When you click the fake button, all of the other cheese/holes will have an equal chance to being a real hole, there is only 1 real hole per map, and every time it is loaded there chances will reset and you would have no idea which cheese/hole will be the real one. Firsts are disabled when you submit it with this setting so there are no unfair firsts for guessing the hole that could be right because the other people would never know.

WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE (IN THE EDITOR)
It would have a question mark on each mouse hole, as in-game, they all look like normal cheese/holes, no differences.

EXAMPLE
Nice idea right? This could open many possibilities to map makers for example...

Which cheese is real? Which hole is real? So many impostors!


SHAMAN'S MOUSE-HOLE:

HOW TO MAKE IT:
When you have more than 1 hole, when you click a mouse-hole it would look like this, if you don't have more than 1 mouse-hole, it would be blurred out:

WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE
The design instead of a normal mouse-hole, there would be a shaman peeking out of it. Like this:



WHAT IT DOES
This could mean that mouses can not enter the shaman hole. I have no examples for when this could be helpful but idk you can give me some. Also you half to validate maps in the mouse' position, (You are still shaman) to validate maps. And yes, you can still go in mouse holes other than just shaman holes.

CO-OP MAP HOLES:
Horray! You can now make Co-op shaman maps, just like the ones in vanilla!

HOW TO MAKE ONE
You now have the option to have 2 shaman spawn points, but only when you have 2 holes exactly, and then spawn the second shaman, they will be automatically move to each of the holes and now one will have a pink feather and the other a blue.

WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE
There are 2 shamans standing in front of a hole. The blue one is named Co-op Shaman A and the pink one is Co-op Shaman B.


this is my best pic yet x3

SHARING OR NO SHARING SAVES?
Once one is clicked, it will say it will have the option selected to "No Sharing" which means each of them will have a blue/pink glow and then you click the "Share" button, the "No Sharing" button will be deselected and the glow for the mouse-hole will turn off and now you can place more than 2 mouse holes.

HOW TO DELETE
Once you delete one of the Co-op shamans selected, the shaman you selected will dissapear and the other shaman will remain in it's place, with both the holes remaining, but you can still obviously delete any hole you like.

Whelp! That's all I got, now here's the list of the Supports, Half Supports, No Supports, and Unsure. I'm finally finished! This took about... I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW LONG TO MAKE AND PONDER, I don't feel like making all the images, just the ones that could explain stuff?. I hope nobody has thought of these ideas. o.o

/Supporters
Kittencutez

/Half Supporters
Aqwalo
Jjaakkee

/No Supporters

/Unsure-ers?
Ilovli
Rosuuri

EDIT: A lot of people are confused, but I'm actually not sure what to do for you, I made it as simple as possible, I even spent the time putting every little thing it does, divided in each section, but I guess you can ask me what you don't get about a certain section maybe?

/Unsure #confuzzled

@Ilovli
What did you not get?

/support for the different hole styles but /no support for fake cheese and hole.

it seems nice but it could make newcomers really confused about the game?? although other experienced mice will be going into the correct hole but idk about this

/Support! Fake holes would be funny and cool XD

Rosuuri a dit :

it seems nice but it could make newcomers really confused about the game?? although other experienced mice will be going into the correct hole but idk about this

No, even experienced players would get tricked up, because if there is a fake hole, the real hole randomizes every time the map is loaded. Ex.) 4 Fake holes, each one has a 25% to be the real one.

/Half-Support

Firsts should count on everything except modules and bootcamp. And if this were to be implemented it would indeed make firsts unfair. DIfferent holes however seem like an interesting idea which I'd like to see in the map editeur.

@Rosuuri
Many new players are always confused, about the different maps and all that stuff, an advanced tutorial is needed, but the one right now is just "Oh you half to get the cheese and go back to the hole" and that's it, you would need to discover and know what these do. The only other help is the help button but people don't usually click that button... they could have many questions, people who know about the game should be in regular rooms and people who might need to ask questions are in vanilla.

@Jjaakkee
Yeah it would be interesting... I was thinking that we could make it a module, but for normal rooms it would be very fun! I could also add that you know it is a map if you see on the top eft a corner a cheese/hole with a question mark on it. It would look a little like this:



Nobody seems to be talking about the co-op holes or the shaman's hole though...

/half support
i like everything but the fake holes/cheese

since a lot of people like me are hungry for firsts, they may try to get the 'fake cheese/hole' and then rage because it's not real, which concludes spamming in the chat and breaking their phone because they've probably slammed it onto the floor 4 times..
otherwise,

/half support

/support i think this is a good idea