Title says it all. Before survivor was the only thing I ever played and it was the best thing in tfm. Now it's ruined by the meatball cannons and summoning speeds and freezes and others... Them should be taken off of survivor. :(

I AGRREEE1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

I called this multiple times. Sigh, hopefully they'll do something about it.

Everything should be taken off of survivor. It should be 'bout only shaman, it's skills on spawning cannons. But yes, if Tig and the crew doesn't agree with that, atleast take the fucking overpowered skills away from survivor:

Spiritual Guide:
• Ancestral Spirit
• Teleporter
• Ambulance(Favouring)

Wind Master:
• Companion Crate(comboed with the portals)
• Acrobat(just my personal opinion, because it's not needed to counter huggers, especially with the "Meep!"

Mechanician:
• Eagle Eye (Even though I myself use it, I still would like to see it out of survivor)
• Anti-Spirit(Even though you get a indication that you might get "hit" by this via "Meep!" You still can't see it every time.)
• Big Spirit(Sometimes you get hit by the spirits, sometimes you don't, all because some shamans have this skill and some don't)

Windling: (I don't know which of these works, I'm assuming all of the new skills works in survivor currently)
• Leaf (Absolutely must go off, can't jump high enoguh to even dodge a cannon that is shot rolling on the ground.)
• Evolution(Makes favourin easier, because with higher jump you can dodge cannons more easy)
• Gregarious Spirit(with most of the mice dead, you'll spawn cannons faster, which in turn makes it harder for the rest to dodge, because timing jumps is crucial as a mouse)
• Landslide(Makes it impossible to jump over/dodge the cannon if it's shot far enough of you for you to run through the spawn point, but close enough to not make the rocks lose the formation)
• Meep!(Makes the "Meep!" even more irritating because it can be done by anyone, and if we look back to when survivor was implemented, it was 'bout shaman vs mice, not mice vs mice vs shaman
• Spider Mouse(Not being able to jump in the web gives too big of a advantage for shaman)
• Reflex(paired with Gregarious spirit could make it near impossible to dodge cannons)

Physicits:
• Handy Man(You can attach mice to mice, mice to objects, mice to you (Combine that with wings and you've got yourself a no escape certain death)
• Mad Scientist(If someone has more points in something other than Physicist, you can't tell if that person could possibly have that skill and this will kill you pretty easily, taking you off guard)
• Stop!(SERIOUSLY? Whole room wide freeze, for up to 10 seconds, presawn that and you'll kill everyone instantly, no point in survivor anymore)

Just don't get the skills you dislike. Simple as that.

Gusfromcc a dit :

Just don't get the skills you dislike. Simple as that.

Did you even read anything from this thread? Actually, you don't have to read it since title says it all.
It's not like 'Don't get the skills you dislike'. It's not simple at all.
We are saying that the NEW SKILLS ARE RUINING SURVIVOR. Shamans are now able to kill us quickly.
The 'Just don't get the skills you dislike' can be said here. >.<

I agree with you.

Sentouki a dit :

Everything should be taken off of survivor. It should be 'bout only shaman, it's skills on spawning cannons. But yes, if Tig and the crew doesn't agree with that, atleast take the fucking overpowered skills away from survivor:

Spiritual Guide:
• Ancestral Spirit
• Teleporter
• Ambulance(Favouring)

Wind Master:
• Companion Crate(comboed with the portals)
• Acrobat(just my personal opinion, because it's not needed to counter huggers, especially with the "Meep!"

Mechanician:
• Eagle Eye (Even though I myself use it, I still would like to see it out of survivor)
• Anti-Spirit(Even though you get a indication that you might get "hit" by this via "Meep!" You still can't see it every time.)
• Big Spirit(Sometimes you get hit by the spirits, sometimes you don't, all because some shamans have this skill and some don't)

Windling: (I don't know which of these works, I'm assuming all of the new skills works in survivor currently)
• Leaf (Absolutely must go off, can't jump high enoguh to even dodge a cannon that is shot rolling on the ground.)
• Evolution(Makes favourin easier, because with higher jump you can dodge cannons more easy)
• Gregarious Spirit(with most of the mice dead, you'll spawn cannons faster, which in turn makes it harder for the rest to dodge, because timing jumps is crucial as a mouse)
• Landslide(Makes it impossible to jump over/dodge the cannon if it's shot far enough of you for you to run through the spawn point, but close enough to not make the rocks lose the formation)
• Meep!(Makes the "Meep!" even more irritating because it can be done by anyone, and if we look back to when survivor was implemented, it was 'bout shaman vs mice, not mice vs mice vs shaman
• Spider Mouse(Not being able to jump in the web gives too big of a advantage for shaman)
• Reflex(paired with Gregarious spirit could make it near impossible to dodge cannons)

Physicits:
• Handy Man(You can attach mice to mice, mice to objects, mice to you (Combine that with wings and you've got yourself a no escape certain death)
• Mad Scientist(If someone has more points in something other than Physicist, you can't tell if that person could possibly have that skill and this will kill you pretty easily, taking you off guard)
• Stop!(SERIOUSLY? Whole room wide freeze, for up to 10 seconds, presawn that and you'll kill everyone instantly, no point in survivor anymore)

I some of these should be removed from survivor, but some of the old skills like acrobat definitely should stay there. If you use meep to stop the huggers, everyone in the room will call you a noob, and I personally don't like using meep anyway. But yes, I think most of the new skills are ruining survivor.

Gusfromcc a dit :

Just don't get the skills you dislike. Simple as that.

I meant the way that other shamans use them skills to kill them. It doesn't help if you don't take the skills you dislike. Other shamans aren't like you and I bet they will use the new skills to kill mice.

And what about the people that enjoy those skills?
Some of the skills' only purpose is to be used to kill mice!

There should be classicsurvivor rooms that don't allow abilities at all, separate from other survivor rooms. This way both people can have their way.

Why would anyone in survivor enjoy these skills? Survivor isn't fun at all with these skills, not even for the shaman. The shaman doesn't even have to try in order to kill the mice; they just have to freeze the room for 10 seconds to kill all the mice while they can't move. I think all of the new skills need to be removed from survivor. They give the shaman an unfair advantage, just like divine mode did whenever it was allowed in survivor.

i agree 100%

I don't think anyone enjoys the skills. Except persons whose favo each other

Flufferbug a dit :

Why would anyone in survivor enjoy these skills?

You answered it yourself.
It's because people probably like killing the others, but if the others were pros, and the Shaman couldn't kill them, they will probably use these skills, and bam, they're dead.
Even now you can expect five cannons/ rocks at a time.

Actually all updates slowly ruin this game and balance, and it runs since 2012 year.

In my opinion, survivor-rooms shouldn't have mice skills at all.

/support

Flufferbug a dit :

I some of these should be removed from survivor, but some of the old skills like acrobat definitely should stay there. If you use meep to stop the huggers, everyone in the room will call you a noob, and I personally don't like using meep anyway. But yes, I think most of the new skills are ruining survivor.

The thing is, you don't need meep or Acrobat, or any other skills to counter huggers, we didn't even have those before the skills came in 2012.

charbelsa a dit :

You answered it yourself.
It's because people probably like killing the others, but if the others were pros, and the Shaman couldn't kill them, they will probably use these skills, and bam, they're dead.
Even now you can expect five cannons/ rocks at a time.

And that is exactly why, I'd assume, most of the "pros" are leaving survivor for good, until the skills are taken off, because what'sthe point of playing the game you used to be good at, if there is no way you can survive anymore, what's the fun in it then?

If people complain 'bout pros being too good, well you know, they used to be bad players too, once, all it takes is practice, if you really want to be good at something. This is coming from a person who used to spend from 30min to 1h a day for several weeks in a private room as a guest just practising fast spawning(No hotkeys back then) cannon tricks, how to juggle yourself up in the air with cannons and how to catch yourself with a balloon in midair.

It's called survivor, you're supposed to try to survive whatever the sham throws at you. If you can't... well that's a pity, just practice.

The only thing I support taking off survivor is the freeze skill as movement is a big part of trying to survive and dodge, it's far too op in survivor. The rest can stay. It makes it more fun, and I for one don't support noob-proofing survivor.

Version 225
• La compétence [Esprit grégaire] ne fonctionne plus en survivor.
• La compétence [Stop !] ne fonctionne plus en survivor.

>.> /version

If you still have problems with 'not surviving' in survivor, its your problem. Sorry, but no can do...

Cooolsssboy a dit :

Version 225
• La compétence [Esprit grégaire] ne fonctionne plus en survivor.
• La compétence [Stop !] ne fonctionne plus en survivor.

>.> /version

If you still have problems with 'not surviving' in survivor, its your problem. Sorry, but no can do...

It's our problem now? Nope, not really. There are 3 things that they forgot to remove from survivor. There is the plank (Earth plank), shaman may spawn it so we could be in it, and then put a teleporter and another one (perhaps under the ground) and then we would die, but I don't think that this is a really big problem.

There is also the 'Leaf' skill. If the shaman spawned it on anyone, then that person that has the leaf, is gonna be unable to jump high, and when the Shaman uses a cannon he/she'll probably die.

Now, last thing, the Landslide skill. If you use a cannon it'll show as rocks. If you used that skill, it'll split the cannons for 2/3/4/5/6 rocks, so it'd be hard since lots of cannons are going to be shot in our faces.
Aff.

Ha,it's good to know only few ppl claiming that you can't survive is your fault,you are not pro enough.

To deal with this,it's simple.
Rename [survive] to [torture],then everything goes fine,a new point of view to play survive,ha ha