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Baloon creativity~Divine mode
Gamerpt
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Introduction:
Hello everyone I decided to give a little help for people that love baloons and divine mode.
I'd like to start saying this isn't the easiest thing to do, it requires a few stuff to be able to work and it's not 100% guarante because there will always be someone suiciding no matter what you say even if you say don't jump, or don't go, rushers will make you fail with this build and a lot of things can make it go wrong..
But aside that, this is a very fun build, it's very helpful too and to me it's something that shows how divine mode can be creative.

History:
I've always loved baloons started using them a lot after I saw this player called "unclenipples", he showed me that a baloon with a box on it could be used underwater if you had a ground above that water, later I found out from a friend that what I saw was a hard mode trick some people used, so I kept using it and had fun building in a different ways using as much baloons as I could until I came across a map in particular, divine players would just fail really hard on that.. people said it was impossible to do(this was before when we had only 3 skills tree) and I knew it had to be a way in order to accomplish it, so that map made me think of a way to build with baloons in mid air without letting it fall, so I kept attatching 2 baloons and 1 anvil until I figured out how to use them all together, took me a lot of trys, a lot of time to get used to so don't worry about failing, as I said before IT'S HARD!

What am I talking about?
Talking about this:
http://i60.tinypic.com/2iitkeo.png

This allows you to keep doing the 2 baloons 1 anvil and attach boards to them, if you keep being careful you actually don't need much of solid grounds you can build anywhere and the bonus part is it won't move a lot, at max the build can go up or down but that's the least since there's a lot of ways to make it stop.

This is the map that helped me think about this me method:
http://i62.tinypic.com/16i5saq.png


That was my first time using the method after getting used to it I've made it better so that I could be using it like this:
http://i58.tinypic.com/szvlvs.png
http://i60.tinypic.com/5efqmf.png


Very Important:
What do you need:
  • You CANNOT have the aerodynamic baloon skill(Makes baloon go up faster)
  • You NEED the super anvil skill 5/5(makes anvils heavier)
  • IF you have Pre-Inflated baloons either waste them or it will be extra hard for you to do it.
  • I would also advice having the companion box skill if you can.
  • This is what I'd advice you to have so you can use this method:http://i58.tinypic.com/29n6sdt.png

How to do it:
  • First of all you will have to use numbers on your keyboards, this is make you select the item instantly and you'll be able to spawn faster.
    IMPORTANT:The numbers CAN change, they depend on what position it shows on your screen.. 2 means on your shaman items the 1 should be arrows and 2 should be baloons(for example if I had spirit baloon would be 3 and not 2) so make sure to check them every map!!
  • Press 2 + space and spawn it, without losing time, press 2 + space again but this time use the v and attach this baloon higher to the other one after that press 6 + space and attach an anvil to the lower baloon BUT the anvil must the lower possible on the baloon as you can(I'll explain why).
    Example:
    http://i60.tinypic.com/2iitkeo.jpg
  • After having 4 baloons and 2 anvils, if they are close together you can probably attach a board now
    Example:
    http://i57.tinypic.com/4tuibq.png
  • You can also attach a board from the first baloons to your ground with a board and attach an anvil to the board.
    Example:
    http://i59.tinypic.com/352lkdj.png
  • Lastly, 1 + v and it will allow you to use arrows to put up nails, this only works when 2 or more items and close enough to each other you basically attach the nails where you see the two items together. REMEMBER it's very IMPORTANT that everything is fully attached or some stuff might get out of place.
    Example:
    http://i62.tinypic.com/30cc2tf.png

What can go wrong:
  • If when you attach the boards to the baloons you accidently hit the anvil, it will fall.
  • If you attach a board without thinking where it will fall it might cause the baloons to move away to a place you don't want.
  • If you aren't fast enough to get some anvils on the build it will fly away.
  • If you attach nails over nails it also might go wrong, I simply advice try to put a nail over another, the baloon as a lot of space so use it.
  • Dual shams map depending on your colour and both shaman skills might make this build not viable, so I'd advice to be carefull when you are dual shamaning because I've heard that normally the blue shaman suffers a few lag problems but this is just what I've heard, I only remember that when divine came out blue shamans had no range increase while the pink had full range(this was obviously fixed) but if there are problems might come from here or the other shaman ping/lag/whatever.

If my building goes too high what do I do?
  • It simply needs items to give it more weight, this is where the companion box comes in, it weights a lot and you can use it on the build until you think it's good then just drop it off, this special box is unique, you can only have one which means if you spawn it in another place it will move from the previous one to the new location(this works in dual shams same rule, if he uses it you can move it by spawning it in another location).
  • Mice with cheese can also help since they just add weight to it.
  • If it's an emergency maybe spawn a an anvil or two and try to spawn baloons to balance the weight of the anvils, remember 2 baloons > 1 anvil

If it goes down what do I do?
  • If it's going down check if you actually didn't attach anything to the anvils on the baloons, it might be the cause of it.
  • Also check if there are no nails on top of other nails, as I said before this makes it glitchy.
  • The build might need a little help to get less weight so simply give it a baloon or two, be careful not to exagerate.
  • Lag might influence this method, sometimes lagging will cause the baloons to disappear for a second and reappear lower than they were before, this keeps going, until the lag is gone. So if you are having this issues best way is to either check your ping or just show me how you do it and I'll try to help.


And this is pretty much it, I will try to keep it update and to keep trying to organize it so if someone finds mistakes or has any advices please I'd welcome them a lot.
I do remind I made this entairly with a fun purpouse, since I've started to build with baloons I've never stopped and some of my friends know that I try to build with the method every single time, this is my way and I'm not even sure if there aren't any other players using this aswell but I'm just sharing and trying to help people that have the same taste for shaman as I do, so please try not flame me or anyone else, this is JUST for fun!!
If you have any other concerns please do not hesitate to whisper me in game, gamerpt.
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*clap clap* :D
Puffpapa
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I'm starring this thread
Inthebin
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Here are some things you can do with the balloons:
http://i.imgur.com/T3Xw9FY.png

With some runes and anvils for balance you can also make a really stable base:
http://i.imgur.com/yhhiDyq.png

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Pleasedontcopymyname
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Finally a use for balloons. Bookmarked
Gamerpt
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Inthebin a dit :
One balloon and one anvil is all you need to balance the build.
It is best to attach the balloon to the build first then anvil it.
Going down → Balloon first then when it is at the desired height, attach anvil.
Going up → Anvil first then when it is at the desired height, attach balloon.
This is the method without using any skills.

I know this works but the problem with it is that it doesn't fit my style of building, when I do the 2 balloons and 1 anvil, I like to use both of the baloons I summon to attach boards, to climb or just a straight one, at the end you have to fit your build to your style and I guess this is my own style :)
Anyway thx everyone for the feedback, I should've said this before, my main objective is inspire people to use baloons more often, they allow so much creativity and they are perfect for divine in my opinion, hope you all have fun :)
Shamanaut
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It's important to note that balloons rise at different rates depending on your FPS. So if your computer is slow and automatically goes down to the old 36 FPS, the builds will sink. Use /ips to show your FPS and /fps60 to toggle it. In my experience the issues as sync shouldn't cause too many problems with mice dying, but it'll affect how you build. Blue shaman is the sync if they have at least 501 cheese.

Without skills, you only need one anvil and one balloon to balance at 60 FPS. There's probably some combinations of the balloon and anvil skills to keep it down to 2 objects total. It's fairly easy to use this with C or arrow anchors(same thing), but can also be used with a traditional V-only build. "V-only" is the precursor to divine mode, which forbids arrows or building skills like huge plank, webs, and restorative.

Gamerpt a dit :
I'm not even sure if there aren't any other players using this aswell

We used this technique back in 2011 for some hard room shaman(now room #spiritual) maps. Certain maps were very hard to do without it, like @1745954. Of course most of us just mimicked someone that figured it out. Anyone that figures out a new building style on their own must be pretty clever.

This technique is super useful for building on harder p4/p8 maps and unfair p0 maps, so I suggest all divine shamans to learn it :)

Edit: Oh, I've been beaten on the one balloon thing. If you want to use 2 balloons but have no skills, fps36 needs 2 balloons to balance.

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