We have the failure of an election system that was abused and bugged to death. Most of the community hates it, including people who won it.
The idea of the election system so far seems to be to give a select amount of players the power to vote on the sale of a new fur for the entire Transformice community. Which even though I won mayor, I deem this to be unfair for the community as a whole and was also suggested to put this idea into the suggestion forums. :D

Instead of having this stupid election system in place, why not just have instead of players that you're voting for, have Furs that EVERYONE is able to vote for, the winning fur would be the next fur to go on sale and the voting could last a week, the same time as the current election.

Obviously there'd be limits on voting. You'd have to play for X amount of days and have gathered X amount of cheese, so that people with a lot of alts are unable to sway a vote in their favor and people are unable to spam make new accounts as-well.

Atelier801 would have to fix it so you'd only be able to vote on one community, so that you can't go to some other community to add more votes to the fur that you want to go on sale.
Doing that fix would also fix so that people are unable to abuse the vote system that they did for the election.

I'd say that to add this, it'd allow the community as a whole to vote for the next fur on sale, instead of having a few special players vote for us. Which is a lot better for the game in the long run.

this is so damn brilliant

Haruhitastic a dit :

this is so damn brilliant

election system for furs why didn't we think of that,
I really don't understand why not haha

As in my latest comment I wrote, now it is a /nosupport from me.

It'd never get better.
The way it works at the moment, and how it's probably going to stay is that there is a new election every month.
Every month, 42 mice from each community, which will total maybe 400-600 mice overall will be able to vote and select a fur to be on sale for next month.

This doesn't seem very fair only having a select amount of mice being able to vote on what fur is on sale. Considering the population of the game is around 20,000-30,000 mice and only having 600 vote. That leaves 19,400-29,400 mice unable to have their say or opinion.

This isn't a community based thing, it's to increase fur sales and doesn't allow the community as a whole to vote.

More so on the fact that if you win the election once, you're most likely going to keep winning it each month, as why would your voters vote for someone else. You'd have the same 42 mice being mayors each month and most likely the same president each month. Which revolves back to only having these mice being able to vote on the sale of a fur.

If you wanted it to be for the community, then all 20,000 - 30,000 mice should be able to vote.

It's certainly a nice idea that might help take some of the distaste that people have over electing people away, but if I were to play Devil's advocate the drawback of doing this over the current system would be that the more popular furs will cycle through being voted for each week leaving less chance of other furs ever being on sale. Having players as the thing to vote for instead of the furs themself spreads the chance of each fur to be chosen more fairly.

That and having players vote for the fur they want on sale removes the 'thrill' (depending on how you look at it) of being able to purchase a fur and therefore be able to vote and run for President/Mayor, which I think is a big factor of what the Admins wanted to include with this update.

Looking at this financially this would also be a poor decision for Atelier801 to do. Presuming the more popular furs are voted for each week, it would be safe to say that most players would simply vote for these furs to be discounted then purchase them, I can't back this up with actual figures, but I would be certain that the sales them self wouldn't attract any further increase in transactions than before the election system however there would be a loss in potential income from the discounts given compared to players purchasing the furs at full price, especially since those who don't already have furs would be able to vote.

If something goes on sale because the players want it on sale, then surely it's going to increase sales by a lot more, rather than having to pay full price to vote, which we know a majority of players won't do or they'll just pay the cheese price instead.

It also gets rid of all the people selling votes for furs and people begging for furs so they can vote.

Jammerys a dit :

If something goes on sale because the players want it on sale, then surely it's going to increase sales by a lot more, rather than having to pay full price to vote, which we know a majority of players won't do or they'll just pay the cheese price instead.

It also gets rid of all the people selling votes for furs and people begging for furs so they can vote.

But, don't you see the point? At least only 50+ people are going to have the oppurtunity to vote, there will only be a small number between the votes, if all 60 million acccounts voted, it would be a really big number... Do you really want the admins to just get rid off the ELECTION SYSTEM and just listen to you and that you hate the election system? No, they wont listen... Many people just ignore the election system, because for many, its just not a big deal...

I think, election system is a great opportunity for some people to win and become the mayors and presidents + choose a fur they want on sale. It doesn't matter if you dont win, you dont have to win like 100 times in a row... It would just be ridiculous... Just let us all see what the election system will be like when all the bugs are gone..

Yes, from 20-30% of you, the first impression is, such a f****d system again, not a big deal...I just hate it... If you hate it, just ignore it.
About 50% would say, ''Wow, it is a new thing, lets see whats going to happen when I become the Mayor or the President.''

Just let people enjoy it, the System is only 3 days old...And if you hate it so much, then why just not ignore it!?

(Sorry for ''if you hate it, ignore it bits'' and if I over repeated myself, I am trying to make a point!)

Admins are trying the best to solve the problems out! Yes they do make some mistakes, as you see with the Easter Event, some people didn't like the event in the first day of the release, but then it became interesting too... Just calm down!!!

And, if they see people hating it, ater a while, they will turn it into something else.

/full support

/support

/support
Because why not? There's gonna be people who will whine because they aren't the mayor, or flip out because nobody votes for them, or beg for votes, or say "[Soandso] is such a bad major MLEEEH", etc. I'd much rather have votings for actual FURS instead of PLAYERS. To me it seems less biased that way.

And maybe instead we have a week of submitting mottos for the furs instead and the motto with the most likes will be the accepted fur :0

This is a better way to have an election system for the fur on sale. Though it might not help Atelier 801 that much compared to the current election system.

The thing with the current system is that it doesn't help the community to choose a fur in any way. The community doesn't have a direct decision on what the next fur should be, they can only vote for majors and it's the president who has that decision.

It isn't a bad thing to take part in something that is meant to help the company earn money (we buy fraises for a reason). But the election system helps the company earn money while giving us a half-hearted, purpose-lacking, poorly implemented and non-funcional election system. And the people who are taking part in this don't even know what's going on. It's like the whole election system is targeted at fools. The community is more than that guys.

/a lot of support

sounds good.

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Jammerys a dit :VoirMasquer

If something goes on sale because the players want it on sale, then surely it's going to increase sales by a lot more, rather than having to pay full price to vote, which we know a majority of players won't do or they'll just pay the cheese price instead.

It also gets rid of all the people selling votes for furs and people begging for furs so they can vote.

But, don't you see the point? At least only 50+ people are going to have the oppurtunity to vote, there will only be a small number between the votes, if all 60 million acccounts voted, it would be a really big number... Do you really want the admins to just get rid off the ELECTION SYSTEM and just listen to you and that you hate the election system? No, they wont listen... Many people just ignore the election system, because for many, its just not a big deal...

I think, election system is a great opportunity for some people to win and become the mayors and presidents + choose a fur they want on sale. It doesn't matter if you dont win, you dont have to win like 100 times in a row... It would just be ridiculous... Just let us all see what the election system will be like when all the bugs are gone..

Yes, from 20-30% of you, the first impression is, such a f****d system again, not a big deal...I just hate it... If you hate it, just ignore it.
About 50% would say, ''Wow, it is a new thing, lets see whats going to happen when I become the Mayor or the President.''

Just let people enjoy it, the System is only 3 days old...And if you hate it so much, then why just not ignore it!?

(Sorry for ''if you hate it, ignore it bits'' and if I over repeated myself, I am trying to make a point!)

Admins are trying the best to solve the problems out! Yes they do make some mistakes, as you see with the Easter Event, some people didn't like the event in the first day of the release, but then it became interesting too... Just calm down!!!

And, if they see people hating it, ater a while, they will turn it into something else.

" if all 60 million acccounts voted, it would be a really big number"

That is the point of a vote, to see what the majority of the players want, the same outcome won't happen each month regardless. When there's a big number between the votes, you'd go for the most popular one, as you would on any other normal vote. Having a small number between the votes means nothing.
If only 50 people get to vote on a fur, that isn't the majority of players. I don't want someone else to decide an opinion on what fur I'd want on sale if I was able to buy furs.

"About 50% would say, ''Wow, it is a new thing, lets see whats going to happen when I become the Mayor or the President.''"
50% of the players who say that after 2 months will realize that they have 0% chance to ever become Mayor or President, the majority of players already know who will win and that it'll be the most popular people of the community.
The only reason random people won this time round was due to how easy it was to gain votes for whoever wanted.


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The system could involve that you require a fur to be able to vote, if Atelier801 want's to make money from it, aslong as it doesn't require having to allow the minority special rights to vote on something that an entire community should be allowed to vote on.

support dis

Great idea. The election system for people without furs like myself was just a lot of spam from people asking us to vote, annoying buggy systems that didn't even work, and just booted out anyone that had didn't either have the cheese or real life money to buy a fur for the game, which felt extremely unfair.

I love your idea, making a system where you can vote by fur instead of a person is a great idea and would probably create more money for Atelier than the previous idea, and honestly would of what I thought was a good idea instead of the current one.

I feel like the people who do not support this idea do not understand that the previous idea was a broken system. It didn't matter what the community wanted, it mattered who the people who probably already had all the furs wanted, which is what the community (and mainly atelier) wouldn't benefit from. Promoting a feature to people who will be eagar to spend less money than the ones who will spend money is absurd and makes no sense from a business standpoint., The "fame" of the mayor won't matter, because as the OP already said, the same people over and over again would be the ones being voted. The pros with the most amount of saves and the highest stats will win more than the people who are just randomly begging for votes in the chat. To quote a few:

"drawback of doing this over the current system would be that the more popular furs will cycle through being voted for each week leaving less chance of other furs ever being on sale."

This is one of my points that I can strongly argue against. The more popular furs are going to make more money. If some random guy decides "hey, lets make this fur on sale" atelier is going to lose out on money if they choose to make the unpopular fur on sale than the random person. Those furs that are being picked regularly just means they will sell more, and they will cycle every month when enough people have those furs they want.

"But, don't you see the point? At least only 50+ people are going to have the oppurtunity to vote, there will only be a small number between the votes, if all 60 million acccounts voted, it would be a really big number"

If 60 million people all vote for the same fur, that is good. This means that most people want that fur and that they will be willing to buy the thing. This means atelier makes more money and more people are happy. Win win.

"Many people just ignore the election system, because for many, its just not a big deal..."
I can't exactly ignore when my chat goes "VOTE FOR ME AND I'LL BUY YOU ALL A FUR!" in my chat. It's not possible unless I ignore the chat completely (which is something I can't do)

" win and become the mayors and presidents + choose a fur they want on sale"
The sad thing is, most of the people will probably have all the furs anyway and would make Atelier lose money, which was the obvious intent of the election system. And winning mayor and president will do nothing but make everyone else sad they didn't get president or mayor.

Support this is way better than election system

/full support.

I flipping hate it.

Can confirm that I already own all the furs and that a lot of people entering already own a majority of furs.
and I'd still prefer my idea over the current system, as it benefits everyone.