Account Security/Rule Quiz For New Users.

Firstly, I do know that this exists, however my post will be far more detailed and will include a bit more than just "lol yea we need a quiz!!!" :P

Many users are thrust into the game without bothering to read the ToS. With no rules popup, they assume they can act all willynilly. Here is where my suggestion comes into play.
After joining, mice will enter a tutorial room much like they do now. There can be a transition from the current awful tutorial, then to the next map (after you go in the hole).
An NPC will be speaking to them, introducing them to the game and reminding them that every game has rules that must be followed. It gives a link to the rules and other basic info (which should be on the website and not the forum...) and tells the user to look over them before the quiz.
From there, a quiz is held, with questions on the most important rules of the game: hacking, insults, spamming, impersonating staff, et cetera. The quiz probably shouldn't be longer than five questions total, but will feature three sections.
Sample questions are as follows:

SECTION 1 - RULES:
- A friend of yours found a cool program that lets your mouse fly and get cheese whenever you want, but you don't think that it's safe. He says it's completely okay to use. What do you do?
- You're feeling totally crazy and decide to sing an entire song in chat, but you noticed somewhere in the middle of your singing, pink text appears saying you've been muted. What did you do wrong?
- You get in a fight with someone in the chat and say lots of nasty things about them as a person. Was that okay?

SECTION 2 - ACCOUNT SECURITY
- Someone is offering to buy you fraises, but asks for your password. What do you do?
- You made your password "password!" and found one day, all your stuff was gone. What did you do wrong?
- You found a neat "other" Transformice with lots of free stuff! What should you do?

An optional third quiz, for how to handle things in game, such as reporting, etiquette to moderation and et cetera. (ie: Report users, don't ban them, don't spam mods asking them how their day is because they're busy, et cetera).

If you complete the thing, you get some cheese and maybe some sort of item? (RuneScape players, just think of the Stronghold of Security lol)

I'm not creative enough to come up with a ton of questions, but it gives you a sampling.
I'd like feedback on this as always~ see if someone can find some flaws I can fix :D

Note that this would not be retroactive.

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/no support

New players will feel very harassed after getting this... They won't want to play anymore

hpocks a dit :
New players will feel very harassed after getting this... They won't want to play anymore

If they don't want to follow rules, that's on them then. lol

Most successful games have security quizzes so I'd find it careless if the admins were to not take this suggestion into account.

+The conversational wording instead of "What must you abide by if one of your colleagues introduces you to a hacking website?" is much friendlier which is also why I support this amazing suggestion :-).

You dont mention what would happen if we fail. I assume we just get to retry or something, but is something worth mentioning. Especially if we dont get to play if we dont pass. Anyone looking at that as a developer, would think thats only going to lower my playerbase.
Im not sure what "etiquette to moderation" means.

Could try a few other ideas?

Replace the Tribe Greeting, since its already in the tribe menu, with a few main rules and an url to all of the rules.
I know it can spammed out by the room. But I know it doesnt happen everytime I log in.
Id replace the greeting only for the reasons that its already in the tribe menu, and I just dont see any point in having it in my chat...
Put the rules in an in-game menu. Most players arent going to go to your website, especially us Kong players or other game sites like it.
And I dont know that many people who wanna go and read through a ToS. Most likely will just get passed by.
It would be better to just have a it handy to us in a few clicks in-game.
Maybe for new players, you could add the quiz in this menu which they can get that bit cheese for knowing the rules.
Maybe they could even have some "Notice" or "Alert" messages or something, that would send to everyones chat every 30 minutes or so.
Stuff like "Remember to follow the rules! <URL to ToS or Rules>" or "Have you read the rules yet? <URL to ToS or Rules>"

I mostly just think to have the rules constantly around, other than only at the sign up or in some location the majority of players arent going to go, would be the best solution.

i support this so much
this can give the new player an idea on what can get them banned and muted, and it wouldn't let them say, "i didn't know we couldn't say/do that!"
as if they took the quiz but broke a rule anyway, they should know what they did wrong
this would also be different than when i first joined, when the rules weren't even stated anywhere in the game. i never even knew the rules until quite a few months later lmao

velspar a dit :
You dont mention what would happen if we fail. I assume we just get to retry or something, but is something worth mentioning. Especially if we dont get to play if we dont pass. Anyone looking at that as a developer, would think thats only going to lower my playerbase.

Oops, my bad. I forgot to menion that you'd be required to retry it.

Velspar a dit :
Im not sure what "etiquette to moderation" means.

Basic stuff such as learning how to report properly and reporting via whisper, only bothering mods when necessary and not like, spamming them "MOD MOD TALK TO ME," learning what it is mods do as well

I like all your bullet points, especially replacing the tribe greeting (since new users wouldn't have a tribe anyway).
I wasn't saying read the ToS though, just some rules in game. The fact that the rules are only visible on this forum are ridiculous though lol. I thought they were ont he site at least but I was wrong.

Thanks for your response c:

/support
Now people can understand the rules better

Will existing players also have to go through this quiz, or is it just for everyone who creates an account after this is implemented (if this idea actually goes through, which I hope it does... /support)?

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Shadowtrophy a dit :
Will existing players also have to go through this quiz, or is it just for everyone who creates an account after this is implemented (if this idea actually goes through, which I hope it does... /support)?

Haruhitastic a dit :
Note that this would not be retroactive.

#11

/support
hopefully this will ease the threads on the forum of "i got banned/muted for this many hours all i did was this what did i do wrong!"

#12

I'd like to start with mentioning that during account registration a popup with the Terms and Conditions appears. Players can choose to not read them, but not reading them does not mean they can do whatever they want.

Regardless of what is written in the T&C, most of the rules in the T&C and the examples mentioned in the OP are pretty straight forward rules on online multiplayer games. It's pretty silly and naive if someone assumes that it's okay to use hack programs here and not expect to get banned for it. Same goes for spamming, bullying etcetera. I don't believe a quiz would increase this awareness, considering that most "new" players already have experience with other online games.

Additionally, this quiz will add another hurdle to actually play the game, something the admins have always been very wary of. New players want to play and explore the game, they don't want a pop quiz in their free time. My guess is that players will not bother to play Transformice if they first have to do a quiz.

Lastly, if such a quiz would ever be implemented, it would be weird to not make it retroactive. After all, this suggestion has been created because of the fact a lot of players (assumingly) don't know about the rules. Leaving them exempt from having to do the quiz means they won't know about the rules and the effectivity of this quiz is close to nothing.

So all in all I don't think this is a good suggestion.

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Kruidenier a dit :
I'd like to start with mentioning that during account registration a popup with the Terms and Conditions appears. Players can choose to not read them, but not reading them does not mean they can do whatever they want.

Yep, I'm aware.
Of course it doesn't mean they can do whatever they want? lol But people still do it anyway.

Kruidenier a dit :
most of the rules in the T&C and the examples mentioned in the OP are pretty straight forward rules on online multiplayer games. It's pretty silly and naive if someone assumes that it's okay to use hack programs here and not expect to get banned for it. Same goes for spamming, bullying etcetera. I don't believe a quiz would increase this awareness, considering that most "new" players already have experience with other online games.

http://atelier801.com/topic?f=6&t=810305&p=1
http://atelier801.com/topic?f=6&t=810153&p=1
http://atelier801.com/topic?f=6&t=51414&p=46#m908
And perhaps the most important, http://atelier801.com/topic?f=6&t=51414&p=42#m833 in which the user states "I didn't know the rules."
This is just EN and just the forums. There's a plethora of it in other communities, IRC, et cetera. So don't go on about how it's "pretty straight forward," and "silly and naive."

Kruidenier a dit :
Lastly, if such a quiz would ever be implemented, it would be weird to not make it retroactive. After all, this suggestion has been created because of the fact a lot of players (assumingly) don't know about the rules. Leaving them exempt from having to do the quiz means they won't know about the rules and the effectivity of this quiz is close to nothing.

Sure, fair enough. I can dig it.

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#14

I agree that the rules should be clearer for users with casual hints, an explicit link to it whenever they get a warning or sanction, and generally just a "rules" button on the ingame menu. Personally I don't think that outright stopping people from playing unless they state what's essentially common sense on the Internet in the form of this quiz is a good choice. It seems to me like it would just be patronising and making the game less accessible for anyone that has to go through it.

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#15

I linked multiple cases above where people were under the impression it was okay to do the things they did or didn't understand why they were banned.
It's not like the quiz for take like two hours to complete. Five minutes at most, if it's so "common sense." :P

#16

Or better yet, there could always be a big button on the corner of the screen that lets you take the quiz. Perhaps it could stay there until someone decides to take it?

Forgive me for this, but I recall there being one on Club Penguin back when I played.
It looked like this.

It gave you an item for successfully passing the quiz with a perfect score.

This way it won't seem patronizing or blatantly intrusive, but rather an option that is highly recommended, seeing as it's always going to be there until you pass the quiz [quite like these thingies right here].

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Haruhitastic a dit :

http://atelier801.com/topic?f=6&t=810305&p=1
http://atelier801.com/topic?f=6&t=810153&p=1
http://atelier801.com/topic?f=6&t=51414&p=46#m908
And perhaps the most important, http://atelier801.com/topic?f=6&t=51414&p=42#m833 in which the user states "I didn't know the rules."
This is just EN and just the forums. There's a plethora of it in other communities, IRC, et cetera. So don't go on about how it's "pretty straight forward," and "silly and naive."

The example posts you give consist of 2x people that use pejorative terms as a means to insult/provoke, one person that got hacked by someone else and subsequently the account got banned for cheating, and one person that was advertising a porn website. Maybe I am mistaken by the level of intelligence on the EN forums, but three of your four examples are pretty straight forward things on the internet as something that is not suitable for minors (porn, insults). The fourth example (where the person was hacked) hasn't really got much to do with knowing the rules, rather this person had a weak password or clicked a link, and didn't know what happened while someone else was on their account. Weak password security is a general internet thing, it's not specific for Transformice.

As such I don't find your examples very strong because they prove exactly my point. These things are straight forward, perhaps people are just ignorant and they think they can do what they want (hey this is the internet, i do wot i want). Making a quiz won't cure this ignorance, so I still do not support this suggestion.

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#18

/support

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Kruidenier a dit :
The example posts you give consist of 2x people that use pejorative terms as a means to insult/provoke, one person that got hacked by someone else and subsequently the account got banned for cheating, and one person that was advertising a porn website.

Well, you can't be hacked, which is perhaps something that could be taught with my suggestion. ;)

Yes, it may be straight forward to you but it is not straightforward to everyone. You =/= everyone. Regardless, thanks for your side.

#20

/support
something like this would be really nice. just something little in-game that helps new users with the rules of the game, at least.
i can't even begin to tell you how many new people don't look around the transformice website for rules/info/etc, considering how many people i have had to link to the tutorial page.

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