NO MORE C4s!!! |
Xtrollfoxx « Citoyen » 1400813820000
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C4s have to go and here is why. Trolling- I dont know how many times that i have seen one troll with their teamate and just blow up. Even if there was a ban they would still continue. No fun- It takes away everything. Things were not the way it had used to be. Now a days its jsut blowing things up. Overpowered- C4s are the most overpowered perk of all simply because everyone uses it and you will die instantly. PLEASE leave a reply to this thread on what you think about C4s. Anymore things that are bad about c4s and i will add some more. If you have a statement on why they should not go please leave a reply as well. |
Shadowwinter « Citoyen » 1400816220000
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Shadowwinter a dit : Shadowwinter a dit : Shadowwinter a dit : Shadowwinter a dit : Shadowwinter a dit : Shadowwinter a dit : Have literally all my replies from other threads about it, I'm too lazy to rewrite and take out duplicate points but I've really said enough already. |
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Admins should take C4 off from the people who have it, refund their money (if possible) and put a higher price |
Windjumper « Citoyen » 1400848080000
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Why defence/attacker+ is not working? Is it bug? Fixing the bug before discussing C4. And C4 should be 300~400 potatos as you can see the skin is very expensive. And i heard there has zombie, what is it and when will it come? |
Xtrollfoxx « Citoyen » 1400878080000
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Windjumper a dit : I am pretty sure everyone would still buy the c4s even at that price and when zombies come out it'll be even more boring when using c4s since it would be like 10 kills in a mob with one c4. |
Thesnailgary « Citoyen » 1400880240000
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i think that the way to fix the problem is to cut out the trolling, they should have the "explosion effect" blow back only the other team and damage the other team. It now only does as much as a mine, and its plenty fun for lots of people who use it smartly. |
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Ianubisgurl « Citoyen » 1400924760000
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I disagree with deleting the C4s. I think instead it should only be used for digging and should not kill or launch up players. |
Batt_mellamy « Consul » 1400956380000
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eh they souldn't delete it its a good perk, but it needs to be limited to where it can be spawned it shouldn't be allowed to be spawned near or on the spawnpoint of your team and the other team, to make things fair i personally find it fustrating when on domination teammates put a c4 right on the spawn and kill everyone before the team can even move out the way of its range and get blasted to the void, instant killing most of the team, meaning theres a extremely high chance that your team will lose due to this one troll on your team they really should do something about this, but removing the c4 altogether is not the solution, as its a great skill and can be used effectively, but only in the right hands |
Shadowwinter « Citoyen » 1400973180000
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It's really starting to get tough to play this game with even more people buying this perk, c4 takes literally no skill at all to use and I got a very bitter taste of it's blast radious being as big as it is today. I really can't wait till they fix this perk so the game becomes a bit more playable without all these trolls and people just going for cheap kills. |
Ysobadbro « Citoyen » 1400975820000
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I agree, they should really do something about the noob friendly perks. 90% of the people who use the perk can't even get 3 kills with a gun, whereas I get 6 kills in a row with just a sniper. What annoys me are the people who think it's funny being the Arab bomber in our team. They need to make the damage based on the range, which is how close you are. If you're right on top of the mine (=you're a noob) then it will do the full damage. The further you are from the C4, the less damage. This won't apply for mine since if they touch it then they're usually on top of it (=them being noobs). |
Techtriostep « Citoyen » 1400977260000
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tbh mine and c4 is literally almost the "same" if c4 doesnt do damage, it can be a pretty good tool. mines alone is good already. |
Shadowwinter « Citoyen » 1401002880000
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Well now that people have figured out that using c4 inside of a damage-boost area makes it a 1 shot kill to anyone standing, it's starting to be used for spawn-killing and various annoying things. This is seriously getting out of hand. |
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Yeah shadow I just figured that out today, see my review. I havent seen it getting any use yet.. but it's sure to spread now. The no damage suggestion would be a good idea, it wouldnt stop the trolls but it'd stop the abuse. I disagree with it only blowing away the other team. That would make its abuse in bases even worse. |
Shadowwinter « Citoyen » 1401015420000
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I noticed. I really don't think this information should be disclosed publicly as it's just going to cause more chaos and frustration in the community of players (veterans, if you must) that have practiced/have experience to continuously die by this cause, especially as cheap as the tactics are getting with it. I've never quite been frustrated with this game till now, and I'm having a hard time expressing it to be honest. Perks were needed, but I honestly expected them to be the same as they were on Transformice with the extras one's included (Mine, Defense+, Attack+, invincibility) while the vanilla ones (Medkit and C4) stayed the way they were back in the day. As I've said before as well as others.. The C4 really shouldn't do any damage and have no knock-back, it makes a much better tool for bunker-busting and tunnel while the Mine was specificly made for the purpose of killing. Even if the C4 was changed people would still use mines to do C4's job, but I'm sure it'd be changed if C4 was for more balance considering they're near the samething. The Attack+ shouldn't effect perks either, that's just madness. I've already seen it abused today, infact it was right after you left that someone planted it in red spawn, conjured the spawn in and then blew everyone up. Of course given there were some afk's but still there were plently of people including myself just spawning and being confused by what's going on and then bam, it's too late and we're all dead because there was literally no avoiding it. I honestly feel like I'm being pushed away from the game because of it, and there's no way to avoid it right now without wasting one of your perk slots or just having to put up with all the trolling and cheap tactics people are using. At least before perks people had to rely on gunskill and strategy, but ever since c4 was introduced that's changed.. I'll say it before and I'll say it again, the game would be better without explosives. All the other perks are balanced (except c4 and mines) with downsides and a good example of this is the medkit and invincibility. Medkit can only heal 10 hp and then you have to take some form of damage and with invincibility active you don't do any damage yourself and neither can enemies. Defense+/Attack+ are just things that you have to put yourself in danger to use but with C4 it just doesn't have a drawback besides killing yourself but large amounts of people as compensation. I just really hope changes are made soon. |
Windjumper « Citoyen » 1401029460000
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I do think that C4 make the game more instense and people has less chat. Maybe add more delay to C4 like 20 or 30 sec. Also, domination map is not fitted in normal room. And there has no smiley or cute stuff so it's a bit boring. I suggest add water map or custom map. If it can, add a mini-map on the corner like a lot big game but i guess it can't be made in a flash game. |
Xtrollfoxx « Citoyen » 1401039960000
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C4s were never supposed to be in the game. It was originally (From what i have heard) created by moderators and not the original mods like omghost. Not all moderators agreed with it, but instead most didn't even try to worry about the consequences of having them in the game. THe original creators just went along with it. So in conclusion why should we be trusting the fact that C4s are still around? Shouldn't we be bugged by the fact that the creators did not comee up with th idea? Well from what i have been seeing many of you consider nerfing it? WELL, if we lets say made it do no damage then what is it to be a a C4? C4s definetly do damage in real life and it wouldn't make sense. lowering the loading time? Well no because why would you really if you just think about it for awhile.....? And limiting spawn range? Still not very a good idea due to the fact that well people would still be abusing it. |
Shadowwinter « Citoyen » 1401040860000
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Xtrollfoxx a dit : Nothing in this game makes sense, it's a game for a reason so really using this argument is very very invalid considering we can already take multiple shots from guns (especially the LMG and Sniper) as well as humans becoming invincible and sponging so many bullets that'd probably leave you a pool of grinded meat if it were real life. Let alone a lot of other things. Regardless if it wasn't originally supposed to be in the game it is now and players are still having to deal with it. I don't think the admins (developers) plan on removing it anytime soon although it is a very very rare possibility that they do altogether. It doesn't really concern me that something was added that players liked for a while then figured out later that they didn't, and then complained and nothing was ever done about it. Honestly, just look Bouboum. What really concerns me is that this game might possibly be taking the same route as Bouboum, however that's a different discussion for another time. As for now though, players should just start using invincibility to counter it because it renders C4 literally useless the majority of the time but it really doesn't change the fact that it's still highly over-powered. At least till something's done about it. |
Xtrollfoxx « Citoyen » 1401048540000
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Shadowwinter a dit : all i am worried about now is how to counter it. would be cool to add a negate perk ability but shield perk is only slightly defensive from it since there are newbies who dont know when to use it. |
Istudent « Citoyen » 1401048780000
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I am ok with c4 in general. The only problem is that people currently trap others around their own spawn and bomb it, killing almost all of them. Same problem with the flag. Again I think that the spawn area should be bigger, but also that people cannot spawn cf in the spawn/flag area. |