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Travelingpik a dit :VoirMasquer

Atleast finally captain falcon confirmed like damn

They didn't have to confirm Captain Falcon before the game released. He'd still be in, like all the other unannounced veterans we won't see till then. Just like with...I dunno... Brawl?

No Mewtwo no Young Link no Dr. Mario no Pichu

Never know which vets might not make it.

metaknight?

The Nasty bots are a joke, it was only fun to play against friends.

Dracoleaf a dit :

No Mewtwo no Young Link no Dr. Mario no Pichu

Never know which vets might not make it.

In my opinion I think they'd be better off coming back as skins since they were mostly just clones in melee even though I did enjoy playing as Dr. Mario. Just my opinion though.

I really don't think any of the OT will be cut but honestly you never know, it does seem kinda likely now.

pichu would damage himself when using his thunder bolt attack, Dr.Mario's pills were stronger than regular mario's fireball, young link... well, was just smaller, and mewtwo... um... I dunno, actually :P
the point is, they weren't clones.

theliubros a dit :

pichu would damage himself when using his thunder bolt attack, Dr.Mario's pills were stronger than regular mario's fireball, young link... well, was just smaller, and mewtwo... um... I dunno, actually :P
the point is, they weren't clones.

Those are only little differences compared to the rest of their move-set, and honestly if they weren't clones they probably would've come back in Brawl. If you go look back at the Melee roster the people that were cut were either replaced with a more unique version or just removed because a version already existed.

I'm not opposed to Dr. Mario, Pichu, and Young Link coming back with some different moves (or at least back as a skin). Mewtwo probably isn't gonna happen when we have Greninja which is a much better choice in my opinion.

Can't wait to see the taunts.

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theliubros a dit :VoirMasquer

pichu would damage himself when using his thunder bolt attack, Dr.Mario's pills were stronger than regular mario's fireball, young link... well, was just smaller, and mewtwo... um... I dunno, actually :P
the point is, they weren't clones.

Those are only little differences compared to the rest of their move-set, and honestly if they weren't clones they probably would've come back in Brawl. If you go look back at the Melee roster the people that were cut were either replaced with a more unique version or just removed because a version already existed.

I'm not opposed to Dr. Mario, Pichu, and Young Link coming back with some different moves (or at least back as a skin). Mewtwo probably isn't gonna happen when we have Greninja which is a much better choice in my opinion.

How many clones stayed though? With whatever changes they got, there's Fox/Falco and Captain Falcon/Ganondorf.

Dracoleaf a dit :

Shadowwinter a dit :VoirMasquer

theliubros a dit :VoirMasquer

pichu would damage himself when using his thunder bolt attack, Dr.Mario's pills were stronger than regular mario's fireball, young link... well, was just smaller, and mewtwo... um... I dunno, actually :P
the point is, they weren't clones.

Those are only little differences compared to the rest of their move-set, and honestly if they weren't clones they probably would've come back in Brawl. If you go look back at the Melee roster the people that were cut were either replaced with a more unique version or just removed because a version already existed.

I'm not opposed to Dr. Mario, Pichu, and Young Link coming back with some different moves (or at least back as a skin). Mewtwo probably isn't gonna happen when we have Greninja which is a much better choice in my opinion.

How many clones stayed though? With whatever changes they got, there's Fox/Falco and Captain Falcon/Ganondorf.

The ones you mentioned and maybe T-Link being just close enough to Link. I've battled against Lucus and Ness enough to tell they're not clones since my friend mains them. To be honest though I do main Falco and while he's not all similar (there are noticeable differences like T-Link vs Link) to Fox I'll give you that he's close enough to being a clone.

I wouldn't really call Wolf a clone (even though he is) besides his similar smashes but that's just my opinion. Besides that all the clones that did come back at least felt different when playing

Weren't they clones in Melee, though? Besides Wolf/Toon Link/all those others introduced in brawl.

I'd say they were but everything did have a different feel in Brawl compared to Melee. I honestly probably would've missed Falco not coming back but I would've gotten over it with one of the other "spacies".

Can't really mess with game design, just really hope that they do something much more different and creative with them now but at the same time that might make a lot of people upset.

ness's final smash is so much better

Duck Hunt Dog, Bowser Jr., Dr. Mario, and Dark Pit. Yay even more Mario characters! And two more clones!

I have mixed feelings about the entire game right now, excited and scared at the same time.

Kind of disappointed in the roster though, just a liiittle bit, but at the same time there's still so much to discover..

couple things I've noticed

• I think Meta Knight is OP because the lead developer (Sakurai, who's also the dev for Kirby games) has a bias towards his other franchise. If you run through Subspace Emissary in Brawl, it's evident that the Kirby characters have heightened roles. Kirby sliced the enemy airship in half with one slice, Meta Knight's ship ferried the opposing army for half the story, and King Dedede's badge things ended up saving them all in the end. Hopefully Sakurai has realized this and will treat the characters equally in Sm4sh, in both story and gameplay.

• Lucina was brought in as promotion for Awakening, like how Roy was only in Melee for his game. You might say Robin would cover promotion-- but I think they wanted a sword representative for that. It could not be Chrom, because when it came to who would be the starring character for Awakening, it was between Robin and Chrom (the clone role was always going to be Lucy). Sakurai chose Robin because he would "bring something new to the game". Lucina also has a slightly different playing style in that her sword deals balanced damage, whereas Marth's does more closer to the tip.
In terms of what's canon, Lucina is not. She clearly states in Awakening that she learned swordplay from her father, Chrom. You could say that all the owners of Falchion have the same fighting style, but I highly doubt that a specific style could survive over several millennium.

this is mostly opinion based on fact and such

I heard Meta Knight actually got hella nerfed in SSB4.

Though Palutena gets a lot of attention probably because Sakurai worked on the recent Kid Icarus. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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Dracoleaf a dit :

I heard Meta Knight actually got hella nerfed in SSB4.

Probably because he was SS tier in Brawl and they don't want to repeat that.

Playing the demo and I'm impressed so far. Mega Man's smash is probably the best in my opinion.

I really want to play the demo but have to wait till the 19th, I'm sure time will fly though and I really can't wait to get my hands on it.

As far as tiers goes for the characters though, I find it more entertaining to watch people play lower tiers like Yoshi and Dr. Mario against higher tiers. I wonder how tiers will be now with custom move-sets and all that other stuff in the mix though, not that I think they're always set and stone but just because it's interesting to see what others think is good.

I'm just saying that the Super Smash Bros. series is lacking nostalgia levels and friendly controls...
I also miss the Ice Climbers due to being a favourite character use...
Well just tbh, I don't think Sonic deserves the place for the SSB series due to corrupted third-party problems...
And... I'm somewhat scared of Little Mac... wut?