Chowsea a dit :

If you eat animal products, you're greatly increasing your risk to get it. Vegetarians have a 40% less chance of developing cancer than meat-eaters. Vegans even less.

Good thing i'm vegan..

Chowsea a dit :

If you eat animal products, you're greatly increasing your risk to get it. Vegetarians have a 40% less chance of developing cancer than meat-eaters. Vegans even less.

There is a correlation between being vegeterian and having a lower risk of cancer in general and an even more-so in those who don't eat meat but eat fish. However there is also a correlation that shows those who are vegeterian are more likely to get bowel cancer, which is the 2nd most fatal cancer (in the UK at least) and red meats have also been shown to cause an increased risk of stomach Cancer.

The statistics you've used are skewed and don't show the full picture. Vegeterians are less at risk for some cancers due to their diet being low in fat and high in fibre but often lack other essential proteins and vitamins (notably B12) found in meats which also puts them at a higher risk of other illnesses.

My advice would just be to live and eat healthily and you will inevitably be at less risk of most illnesses including various cancers.

Check dem balls regularly!

Mintyblue a dit :

Good thing i'm vegan..

That's awesome!

Sstovve a dit :

There is a correlation between being vegeterian and having a lower risk of cancer in general and an even more-so in those who don't eat meat but eat fish. However there is also a correlation that shows those who are vegeterian are more likely to get bowel cancer, which is the 2nd most fatal cancer (in the UK at least) and red meats have also been shown to cause an increased risk of stomach Cancer.

The statistics you've used are skewed and don't show the full picture. Vegeterians are less at risk for some cancers due to their diet being low in fat and high in fibre but often lack other essential proteins and vitamins (notably B12) found in meats which also puts them at a higher risk of other illnesses.

My advice would just be to live and eat healthily and you will inevitably be at less risk of most illnesses including various cancers.

Check dem balls regularly!

B12 is the only actual common deficiency amongst vegans which can easily be supplemented. Laughably easily. Proteins and other nutrients and vitamins are easily obtained through plant products. Broccoli, for example, has more protein in it than meat does. Meat-eaters tend to actually get exceptionally MORE protein and iron than is necessary, which can be just as bad for you as getting too little of it. The common myth that vegetarians and vegans have severe protein deficiency is just that - a myth. We don't need nearly as much as the media has us think. On average, vegans live nearly a decade longer than non-vegans. To argue that we are less healthy is just ludicrous.

But anyway, this topic is about cancer specifically. Vegetarians may have increased risk of bowel cancer, but to my knowledge, vegans do not. It's largely the same reasoning behind stomach and colon cancer - rotting animal product. Plant foods do not rot for years in your body the way animal products do (which leads to cancer), instead we digest them properly and efficiently. The absolute best way to avoid developing cancer is to eat properly, which means less blood and more greens! Of course there are other types of cancers which can be caused by a great number of things, especially smoking. How to avoid those ones is pretty obvious!

My friend's dad works at a place for kids who have cancer...I think it's sad...because I was at school and I heard someone laughing about kids who have cancer...no one in my family has died of cancer...I hope everyone who has cancer lives or I hope they don't suffer...

Sonicboomex a dit :

My friend's dad works at a place for kids who have cancer...I think it's sad...because I was at school and I heard someone laughing about kids who have cancer...no one in my family has died of cancer...I hope everyone who has cancer lives or I hope they don't suffer...

Laughing about it? That's awful. You're lucky that your family is cancer-free so far! Here's to hoping they all stay healthy!

The world would obviously have no hospitals without cancer people would lose jobs but it is a pretty bad thing but there are other things to be concerned about but since cancer causes death i wish i could donate to charity for help of theese people but instead i can jsut type this on my computer im random but im still seroius about stuff like this.

Chowsea a dit :

Broccoli, for example, has more protein in it than meat does.

Yea-no... Protein per 100g of Broccoli: 4.2g
Protein per 100g of Chicken: 33g

However nuts and seeds are a great source protein cointaint ~20g of protein per 100g however are rather fattening.

Reading through earlier pages...

Chowsea a dit :

The reason they don't release the cure for cancer can be seen when you look at our world's overpopulation and the number of people who die annually from cancer. If they released a miracle cure, what would happen to our already too-large population? How would the government and doctors/scientists looking for cures for cancer make their money? How would the pharmaceutical industry make their money? They rake in billions and billions yearly for cancer "research" (read: torturing animals) to try to find cures that they would never release if they found. They rake in even more billions for cancer treatment that more often than not does little to help the patient. It's a very, very depressing reality.

I find this post incredibly ignorant and actually a little bit insulting. Do you really think that people in this world are that heartless? That they would let millions suffer from cancer purely for money and because the world is "over-populated"? I have a little more faith in humanity than you obviously and find that to be a vile allegation. There are many new promising treatments coming through every year and many supposed cures. Alot of these cures however are just unafforable at present and insufficiently tested.

Don't believe everything you read/hear.

The 4 most fatal cancers (cause the most deaths per annum) are:
- Lung
- Bowel
- Breast
- Prostate

Prostate cancer (men only) develops mostly over the age of 70 so you shouldn't have to worry about that just yet.
Lung cancer risk can be severely reduced by not smoking.
Breast cancer if caught early can be effectively treated, so regularly check for lumps.
Bowel cancer we have already been over but meat eater appear to be less at risk than however not significantly.

The most common cancer in young men is testicular so I cannot stress the importance of checking them regularly for lumps (once a week in the tub), as nobody wants to lose one of their boys.

Sstovve a dit :

Don't believe everything you read/hear.

That's precisely what you're doing. If you look at facts, statistics and apply simply logic to the situation (one example - look how far we've advanced in medicine in the last 30 or 40 years alone, yet we can't cure cancer or the common cold - two illnesses that, by logic, should have been curable long ago yet rake in trillions annually in treatment), you will understand that what I said was absolutely correct. People ARE that heartless. Actions as destructive and heartless take place everywhere. It's sad to become disillusioned, but it's necessary. And unfortunately, allowing disease to wipe out so many of us is also necessary if we want to continue living the way we do now. Unless everyone is willing to give up a hell of a lot - like only one out of every thousand women being allowed to have a child in order to control the world's population - it's necessary for a large number of humans to die regularly.

My grandma died of cancer :c :c

Ggooss a dit :

My grandma died of cancer :c :c

I hope ur grandma lives a happy life in heaven :3

Pentakill a dit :

To be honest, I doubt being vegan decreases your chances of developing cancer more than being a vegetarian does. Milk is really healthy (that's why cubs are fed with milk, right?) and so are eggs (it contains all the vitamins needed for the sperm's embryo-genesis). I know most corporations abuse these animals and it's a sad thing, I always think about it when drinking milk, but I will buy a cow as soon as I can afford it and I will cherish it and respect it for every drop of milk she'll give me, but for now all I can do is try to avoid companies that are known for animal abuse and try to take as much milk as possible from my great-grandmother's supply, who owns a few cows who are really happy, because they get to graze on huge meadows and just enjoy themselves. Sorry, I kinda gone off-topic there. Yeah, cancer is a lethal mutation that occurs in some human cells and is a horrible way to die. I'm sorry for all of you who lost your dearest to this condition and I'm sorry for all of you who will. Peace :)

http://www.naturalnews.com/031255_milk_health.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/dairy-free-dairy-6-reason_b_558876.html
http://saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth/

http://jezebel.com/5934776/your-breakfast-is-trying-to-murder-you-eggs-are-almost-as-bad-for-you-as-cigarettes
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/08/15/eggs-bad-health-smoking_n_1778400.html

All animal product, despite what they have you believe, is bad for the human body. We share physiological traits with herbivores not omnivores and not carnivores. We poison our bodies with these foods. The most common myth is that milk is good for your bones, when in reality, it depletes your bones of calcium. But of course if that were to become widely known, the dairy industry would be out of business.

I'm giving up being vegan and moving onto vegetarian. Although nothing will change, I hate milk..

Chowsea a dit :

yet we can't cure cancer or the common cold.

Well that's due to the fact that the common cold is not a single virus, it mutates and therefore almost impossible to vaccinate against and extremely cost inaffective. It is not a worthwhile investment to find a cure as it only produces mild symptoms.

Cancer is a completely different case and I believe we will find a cure for that long before we find a cure for the common cold.

Chowsea a dit :

That's precisely what you're doing.

No, I read multiple sources to get an unbiased view. One of the few examples I could find about your conspiracy theory (other than family guy, which fyi is not a valid source) was this supposed cure http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn10971-cheap-safe-drug-kills-most-cancers.html which merely states how major pharmaceuticals are not willing to invest in research as it is not profitable. However it will inevatibly get Governments' and University funding once it has passed its pre clinic phase of testing.

Chowsea a dit :

like only one out of every thousand women being allowed to have a child in order to control the world's population

Now that is just a ridiculous notion.

Sstovve a dit :

Now that is just a ridiculous notion.

Is it? Let's look at the facts. There are 7 billion people in the world. Studies show that if everyone were to live the life of the average North American, we would need 3 or more earths to sustain us all. 7.6 million people die from cancer yearly. A few million die of AIDS yearly. 15 million children die yearly from starvation - and that's JUST children.
So, even with all of these deaths, we are still overpopulated by about 4 billion people. If we were to remove death from cancer (and just for the heck of it, all the other mass-deaths) then how overpopulated would we be? In order to balance the population - taking into account that we are already extremely overpopulated - we would have to dramatically decrease the number of children we have until the population was at a point where the earth could handle it. Then we could return to having 2 kids per family.

I tried being a vegan, but I gave up a week later. I couldn't do it.

Being a vegan does have a downside(s): lack of protein
As a human being, we're meant to eat meat. /Unless you keep a balanced diet, then good for you.\

Though, I have nothing against vegans at all. I'm pretty understanding when it comes to any of that anyways.

Nickyyz a dit :

I tried being a vegan, but I gave up a week later. I couldn't do it.

Being a vegan does have a downside(s): lack of protein
As a human being, we're meant to eat meat. /Unless you keep a balance diet, then good for you.\

Though, I have nothing against vegains at all, I'm pretty understanding when it comes to any of that anyways.

http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/natural.html
http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/protein.html

Myths myths and more myths.

Chowsea a dit :

All animal product, despite what they have you believe, is bad for the human body.

Stop taking this thread off-topic and trying to convince others that your way of life is better than theirs, there are merits to being both vegetarian and eating meat. We are all slightly lactose intollerant as we have only been drinking cows milk in the last 7000 years and our bodies have not become accustomed to it yet. We may share some physiological traits with herbivores but we share more with omniovores, it is only in modern times we have been given the freedom to choose due to advancements in nutrition.

Chowsea a dit :

Is it?

Yes, it is.

Chowsea a dit :

Studies show that if everyone were to live the life of the average North American, we would need 3 or more earths to sustain us all.

Good thing we aren't all North Americans then isn't it? It is also said that we should start consuming insects which would sustain our population is plentifully however our western culture seems to have a big taboo on them as a food source.

Anyway enough of off topic posts.

theese are sad stories