Adressing popular issues i see on Forums |
Purple_days « Citoyen » 1606840740000
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Hello everyone, a lot of you may have seen me around here, i am quite active around here, and i am active on many alts, of which will not be named, but during my time around here, i have seen MANY issues between staff and players, including the Atelier801 Money issue, the Terrible updates, the staff "Abusing power," the issue of the rising hacker problem, and many other problems, i will also offer my solutions and opinions, as well as some of the opinions of others i have gathered from members of the Atelier801 players Issue #1, Money Issues Yes, we ALL know that Atelier 801 has,and has pretty much always has had money problems, Their only source of income are donations, In-Game purchases made by players, however, since (I believe) 2016, the player-base has been lowering drastically, meaning less player purchases, this is obviously not good for the company, because if they wish to keep the game up, and keep the game popular, they must have a steady income stream, of course, i've seen ideas (i would source the topics, however i cannot think of them at the moment, so if you know them, PLEASE send me a private message including the links, and i will happily put them into here!) like selling the plushies, and patreon, and i agree with these ideas, patreon would be an AMAZING way for them to source money, i'm more than 100% sure there are members willing to donate money because they believe atelier has potential, and selling the plushies would be an AMAZING idea, i talk to my mom ALL the time about how badly i want one, and i know very well i'm not the only person who wants one, so selling them would be a great idea! But yes, with this would also come more money issues, making those plushies would cost money too, they would probably only make about $5 if they sold them for $25-$30, so it's not to big of a profit, so i'm leaning more to them using a patreon, which is a free source of income. Issue #2, Terrible Updates Ah yes, i think we all know the worst update so far The Languages And Communities Update, this update indeed messed up that game quite a bit, nobody likes the functions, the flags, how much it messed up the game, as many players and members of the community have said, nobody asked for it, and it really did make everything just more confusing and complicated, so i think a lesson that Melibellule and Tigrounette should learn from this is to pay more attention to the community, i understand they have a lot going on, but if they just make updates like this that nobody wanted, then complain about the backlash, there's no point, they should pay more attention to the community, and what they want, make updates that members want, not just needless updates that are unnecessary and breaks the game!! Issue #3, Staff "Abuse Of Power" Now i see a lot of players arguing about of staff members banning, muting, warning, and pfp banning them without a proper reason, however this is quite a complicated subject, nearly ALL the staff are blamed for this, however this is just plain rude and unfair, as not ALL staff abuse their power, hell, nearly NONE of the staff abuse their power, yes of course there will ALWAYS be a few moderators, or a few sentinels, or even a few MAPCREW abusing power, and yes even one Now-Ex-Administrator, but this doesn't mean ALL the staff deserve hate, or all the complaints, it's reality, there's always some people making mistakes, and yes, i think meli needs to pay more attention, and do more investigations on reports regarding power-abuse, however this is up to meli, other than that, there's really nothing we as players can do, and yes, before you bring up Super-Moderators, i have considered this for quite a long time before posting this topic, however there was JUST as much power abuse going on there, and if Meli were to bring them back, she would need to SERIOUSLY limit their power Issue #4, Hackers and other rule breakers I believe we all know that even though Moderators, Sentinels, and Arbitres are constantly online, providing us with support, moderation, and everything else the community needs, there is still (and always has been) a rising number of rule-breakers, and i believe that (No offense) this is making the Mods/Sents/Arbs slack off, but it's because it's so tiring to deal with, we must realise that these people have lives too, most of the staff are busy with jobs, college, or who knows, some may even be active in the army (Thank you for your service, anyone who reads this topic and is a part of our armed forces), so they already have a HUGE load on their back, this minor game is just a volunteering job, they don't get paid, or any rewards, so they may be over-stressed by the 24/7 reports and DMs, so they may slack off over this because they can't handle it, and this really can't be fixed, we already have a HUGE number of Moderators, and Sentinels we really don't need to many because of how much smaller the Forums are (RIP 2015 Forums), and the Arbitre count is HUGE, for those who don't know what Arbitre are, they are private moderators who are not on the Staff List and do not show up when you type the /Mod command in game, they also do not have the Iconic yellow name of moderators in game, however they have the power of banning and muting, just like moderators, but the only thing we as the players can do is 1, not break the rules, and 2, try our best to HELP the staff team, not yell at them, send reports, be patient, and let staff take their time to handle it Why did i type all this out? Why in the WORLD did i take so many hours to do this? well the answer is i want to help everyone, and give them a topic to discuss, but at the same time i want to bring up valuable topics and ideas for our staff and Admins to think about, so with me saying all this, please share your opinions and ideas on this topic -Purple_Days, EN Community Applications Open CAMILA_CABELLO#7100 : Senior Helper Dernière modification le 1607363940000 |
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i think this is really well thought out, its a lot better than the people here or on cafe who will be like "mod bad" with no other reason, i do believe that the rules should be more apparent, such as a pop up for new players in game (for tfm ofc) and a page on forum showing the rules plainly so people cant really pull the "mod bad" excuse when they break rules. which is very common on tfm. i personally think that your addressing of these issues (not grammatically correct but lol) is generally more mature than others tend to be. |
Purple_days « Citoyen » 1607012160000
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UPDATE So another thing i've been seeing is the fact people complain a LOT about having issues, and posting out of area, this is kinda a 2 in 1 update, so lets first handle the issues logging in issue! Issue #5, Bugs, Glitches, And Access issues I've seen SO many topics about unable to log in, or that they had an issue in game with lag, or glitching, you must realize that this game is ran by TWO people, only ONE of which handle the game and forum coding (Tigrounette,) so you must realize that with only 2 people, and 1 developer, it can get hard keeping 6 games updated and cleaned, imagine having 6 HUGE games, with hundreds of thousands of players, and you're in charge of keeping everything together, it starts to get hard, so you must give them patience, and remember that they're trying their best with everything, so be patient, and let Tig take his time, he's rushed enough as it is Issue #6, Out Of Area Posting Ok, so this bugs me, i've answered MANY different out of area topics, many of which have been closed by (in my opinion the hardest working Senti) Link#0015, you guys always complain when your topics are locked, however, you must realize that Topics have proper places!! topic like This who was posted by a (in my opinion a pretty (recently) big forum user) Ayumai, this belongs in the Bugs Thread of the forums, NOT the Discussions Thread, and when people complain about the thread being locked, it's the sentinels doing their job!! they try their best, but are always hated for it, JUST like moderators, Mods are NOT better than Sentis are, they are equally important, and should not be viewed differently, so please, just help the sentinels out, and if you don't know where to post, message a Sentinel of your community, where you can find under the Sentinel Label of the Staff List Anyway, as usual, i will keep updating this thread as i see fit, if you have any topics you'd like me to share my opinion on, please immediately send me a PM! i'll study up on it, and make an update about it! Dernière modification le 1607012220000 |
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^^ THIS ! last night im pretty sure the servers got ddosed ? im not entirely sure but they were down and i cant imagine the amount of stress they must have felt. |
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when did sydoline abuse her power? |
Purple_days « Citoyen » 1607086620000
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Camila_cabello a dit : I can't get the sources atm due to me being on my school computer (y'know, restrictions and all), but there were multiple times she's fired staff unrightfully because she didn't like them, there has also been instances of many staff leaks that SHE did, she's also banned/unbanned MANY people who were proven to deserve the Ban/Unban, i will get you the links to all this as soon as i can, to clear things up, yes, there was moderation chats included in the website i'll show you Dernière modification le 1607087280000 |
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Purple_days a dit : LMFAO she sounds lame, thank god she's gone |
Purple_days « Citoyen » 1607357100000
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Update Ok, so this may be a bit of a surprise to some people, this was supposed to just be a me thing, but i've decided that i could use some help with everything, so i will now be hiring people to help me answer questions, if you're interested in being a Helper for this thread, please send me a PM clearly labelled "THA" so i know what the PMi s about, with all this being said, i'll be on all day waiting for the applications!! CAMILA_CABELLO#7100 has been accepted as SH (Senior Helper) Dernière modification le 1607529600000 |
+Giahys « Citoyen » 1607451660000
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very well explained |
Damageee « Citoyen » 1607535360000
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Update Issue #3, Staff "Abuse Of Power" Some of the people viewing this thread might have been in the RU (Russian) community between about 2018 and 2020. If you were, you may remember a moderator called "Mishska#0010". She was fired between March - May 2020 (not completely sure of the exact time) due to abusing her powers. There isn't too much information about what she exactly did, but I did see that she muted someone unfairly. This proves that Atelier is trying to tackle the abusive staff problem, however it doesn't mean that they're trying well enough. |
Purple_days « Citoyen » 1609948560000
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Update Oh god... this is one I really didn't WANT to do, but I'm doing it because as I've said, things must be brought to attention Issue #7. Cafe So as you guys will probably know, this is an in-game issue to a LOT of the Atelier801 community, many people want it gone entirely, other want the requirements to post in it much more strict, and some people just want it moderated more, as a 2014 player, on an account i do not use much anymore, and during my time as an Atelier801 member, Cafe has growns a special place in my heart, however we cannot neglect the issues that do stand in cafe, first of all, the Harassment, yes with the slightly recent update that now allows you to report comments help, and moderators do handle reports on cafe, however it is NOT big enough of a priority, and by the time the moderators deal with whatever happened, the damage is usually already done, another issue, illegal posts, such as explicit pictures, links, messages, etc such as Pornography, Murder, Rape, Drugs, etc, and again, moderators do not usually keep cafe as a #1 priority, which is understandable, since there are many other important things to attend to such as hackers, and such, another thing on cafe are child predators, i know, you may think i'm being dramatic, but no, this game is an excellent way for predators to get to children, since this game is 87% children, that's less than 20% adults playing this game, out of the 13% adults playing, at least 6% are child predators, enough of the problem addressing, lets bring up some solutions, first of all, tighter restrictions, yes i understand quiet well that 1,000 cheese and (i think??)4 hours of playtime is an AMAZING start, however i think it's time to up it, to have at least 2,000 saves, 1,500 cheese collected, and at least one trophy (playing one game mode like racing, survivor, vanilla, etc for a set amount of rounds), that's at least hard mode and 1 trophy, another solution is that moderators put a tighter watch on cafe, don't just push the reports to the side until later, it's as easy as just reading a comment and dealing with it and then getting on with your day, or as some people suggest, just delete it if you don't have time, don't have it |