Its true. It's so true. Every thing said there is true.

I mean, lets take a look at the rules, first of all.

"4. No excluding or deranking for personal matters. Exclusion or deranking is specifically for tribe matters only.

5. No abuse of rights. Otherwise, it will result to either the ban of rights temporarily or members will be deranked accordingly. Other measure is to be excluded."

Who do we know in this tribe who is kicking whoever says something against him?

Redninn. He will kick you as soon as you speak up about him, and it's clearly violating the rules he wrote himself.

"The Exclusion Vote
This will only apply for tribe house annoyances. Tribe chat annoyances are advised to be ignored if they ever personally offend you.
Analyze carefully who the suspect is (no matter what rank) and go for a vote of exclusion, majority wins. There must be someone present in the tribe who can exclude members."

Advised to be ignored if the personally annoy you, redninn doesn't care and he'll kick you as soon as you piss him off, regardless of the rules

Remember back when we used to vote to kick people? How Baamm got at least three trials?

Now, do you remember a trial for Michxmouse, or Ironicmelon, or even Soapxunilde?

It's funny how he kicks the two most influential members of the forum. I believe the only reason it's still alive is because Soapxunilde was clearly Ironicmelon's alt. I wonder how long it will take before it crumbles to dust. Sure, we have members like Koukou and Unilde, but it's not long before everything topples.

He can't go around just excluding and stomping on everyone with no consequences.

But he's the leader and theres nothing we can do.

We're helpless, hopeless, as he crushes everything.

There is nothing I can do, and if I get kicked after posting this, it will only prove my point. I have don't nothing wrong by tribe standards. I have only dared to oppose Redninn. I doubt I'll even get a trial.

This tribe was supposed to be a family, a home, a save haven. It is none of those things anymore. I slowly spent my time on the forums more and more as the tribe chat went to hell, and now even the forums are being ruined. Yukisoulnote, Lurksindark, they never show up anymore. Even Baamm, Red's loyal lackey, quit because he realized how toxic Red has become. The only reason most people are staying is because the tribe has become such a part of them they just can't leave, clinging to the feeble hope that it might become what it used to. The tribe isn't a family anymore. It's a prison.

He's going to kick me for saying this. I know he will. It's because I'm not sheltered by that fact that I'm one of his "gals." It's funny how he finds certain members attractive and clearly and obviously favors them. If you're not one of them, it is only a matter of time before you get kicked.

I understand he used to be kind. I understand he used to be an amazing leader and friend. I understand that we "pushed him too far." this doesn't excuse his behavior now. He is a dictator, and it is not okay.

Once I get kicked, don't let this disappear. Those of you who can, once this gets deleted, revive it.

Heres how:


I know I'll be kicked. I know this post will be disappear before anyone can read it. But please do, please keep this alive, spread the word.

We can't let him ruin us.

I agree with you, and I absolutely admire how you stood up to him. I myself as one of the leaders couldn't do it. But now I will stand with you on this.

Mich and Becca being blacklisted are due to the reason of them ranting at Red and pushed him as they did continuously in the past. However he acted on personal impulses and that's what started the entire thing.

Unilide/SoapXunilide is another influential member of the tribe however because she gave criticism to Red's art, he automatically blacklisted her. I can understand his ideals with that however that is unfair. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

The forum has died sadly due to Becca and Mich being gone as they were the ones who enjoyed keeping it up. He favors the majority of the females in the tribe. However the men are unable to do anything but sit and wait for themselves to get ruined as the girls are being treated as holy objects. I'm not saying I'm complaining due to the fact I'm a girl, however this shouldn't be happening. Gender equality is what's needed in this tribe. Just changing ranks and giving special ones to his "gals" and ruining everyone's else's that they worked hard for is uncouth.

We'll start some small revolution, I will be held responsible if this were to get out of hand.

Yukisoulnote a dit :

I agree with you, and I absolutely admire how you stood up to him. I myself as one of the leaders couldn't do it. But now I will stand with you on this.

Mich and Becca being blacklisted are due to the reason of them ranting at Red and pushed him as they did continuously in the past. However he acted on personal impulses and that's what started the entire thing.

Unilide/SoapXunilide is another influential member of the tribe however because she gave criticism to Red's art, he automatically blacklisted her. I can understand his ideals with that however that is unfair. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

The forum has died sadly due to Becca and Mich being gone as they were the ones who enjoyed keeping it up. He favors the majority of the females in the tribe. However the men are unable to do anything but sit and wait for themselves to get ruined as the girls are being treated as holy objects. I'm not saying I'm complaining due to the fact I'm a girl, however this shouldn't be happening. Gender equality is what's needed in this tribe. Just changing ranks and giving special ones to his "gals" and ruining everyone's else's that they worked hard for is uncouth.

We'll start some small revolution, I will be held responsible if this were to get out of hand.

Yuki, I'm glad you're seeing this and agree. I just have one correction about Soapxunilde:

Soapxunilde is Becca's alt (confirmed by Phoenix).
I think the criticism towards Red's art just ticked him off to conclude she was indeed Becca. This might not be true, of course.

I agree with all of you
Isn't Red being a little hypocritical? Kicking someone because they criticized him? Isn't that a little unfair. He should at least talk with them before kicking them. Red that wasn't okay. And yes I do think Red treats girls better than boys. I get you love girls Red, but consider others. Also, I am not happy with what happened to Phoenix. She has been in this tribe for a long time. She keeps the tribe chat running, and yet she gets ranked down. She worked hard. But that's not all. Other members were criticizing you too Red. And they still stayed. Now I don't know if you just kicked Soap because you didn't like them, but that isn't fair

gujiniuniu a dit :

Yukisoulnote a dit :VoirMasquer

I agree with you, and I absolutely admire how you stood up to him. I myself as one of the leaders couldn't do it. But now I will stand with you on this.

Mich and Becca being blacklisted are due to the reason of them ranting at Red and pushed him as they did continuously in the past. However he acted on personal impulses and that's what started the entire thing.

Unilide/SoapXunilide is another influential member of the tribe however because she gave criticism to Red's art, he automatically blacklisted her. I can understand his ideals with that however that is unfair. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

The forum has died sadly due to Becca and Mich being gone as they were the ones who enjoyed keeping it up. He favors the majority of the females in the tribe. However the men are unable to do anything but sit and wait for themselves to get ruined as the girls are being treated as holy objects. I'm not saying I'm complaining due to the fact I'm a girl, however this shouldn't be happening. Gender equality is what's needed in this tribe. Just changing ranks and giving special ones to his "gals" and ruining everyone's else's that they worked hard for is uncouth.

We'll start some small revolution, I will be held responsible if this were to get out of hand.

Yuki, I'm glad you're seeing this and agree. I just have one correction about Soapxunilde:

Soapxunilde is Becca's alt (confirmed by Phoenix).
I think the criticism towards Red's art just ticked him off to conclude she was indeed Becca. This might not be true, of course.

Oh Uniilide was a member I loved, and she was shipped with someone named soap, I thought she made that ult. My Mistake.

I agree with everything here. I'm not much of the serious type but as soon as red started ruling I could already tell it was going to fall. The tribe started to lose the family touch, Red became more of a ruler than a leader. He does what he wants he doesnt care. Like rank changes and stuff like that. At the moment theres a line in this tribe message that just shows how much hes becoming a ruler ''Soapxunilde is blacklisted. No one is to be found associating with her./Redninn/''. Like I am in that tribe for a loving family feeling. When I see that I feel no family touch I feel like I'm in prison and Red is the warden.

gujiniuniu a dit :

Yukisoulnote a dit :VoirMasquer

I agree with you, and I absolutely admire how you stood up to him. I myself as one of the leaders couldn't do it. But now I will stand with you on this.

Mich and Becca being blacklisted are due to the reason of them ranting at Red and pushed him as they did continuously in the past. However he acted on personal impulses and that's what started the entire thing.

Unilide/SoapXunilide is another influential member of the tribe however because she gave criticism to Red's art, he automatically blacklisted her. I can understand his ideals with that however that is unfair. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

The forum has died sadly due to Becca and Mich being gone as they were the ones who enjoyed keeping it up. He favors the majority of the females in the tribe. However the men are unable to do anything but sit and wait for themselves to get ruined as the girls are being treated as holy objects. I'm not saying I'm complaining due to the fact I'm a girl, however this shouldn't be happening. Gender equality is what's needed in this tribe. Just changing ranks and giving special ones to his "gals" and ruining everyone's else's that they worked hard for is uncouth.

We'll start some small revolution, I will be held responsible if this were to get out of hand.

Yuki, I'm glad you're seeing this and agree. I just have one correction about Soapxunilde:

Soapxunilde is Becca's alt (confirmed by Phoenix).
I think the criticism towards Red's art just ticked him off to conclude she was indeed Becca. This might not be true, of course.

Yup This was totally not a coincidence

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I agree with all of the above.This tribe had fair rules (well it still does) but Red doesn't give a fuck about those.He has an arbitrary and biased sense of judgement. Soapxunilde get blacklisted with no warning at all.Meanwhile,I have encountered like 50 people in this tribe who have been extremely offensive,and Red didn't do anything at all.
Oh,and stop fucking sexualizing women.

unilde a dit :

I agree with all of the above.This tribe had fair rules (well it still does) but Red doesn't give a fuck about those.He has an arbitrary and biased sense of judgement. Soapxunilde get blacklisted with no warning at all.Meanwhile,I have encountered like 50 people in this tribe who have been extremely offensive,and Red didn't do anything at all.
Oh,and stop fucking sexualizing women

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lmao that thing red wrote was so cheesy im dying

BLACKLIST ME I SUCK

Superyacine a dit :

unilde a dit :VoirMasquer

I agree with all of the above.This tribe had fair rules (well it still does) but Red doesn't give a fuck about those.He has an arbitrary and biased sense of judgement. Soapxunilde get blacklisted with no warning at all.Meanwhile,I have encountered like 50 people in this tribe who have been extremely offensive,and Red didn't do anything at all.
Oh,and stop fucking sexualizing women

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lmao that thing red wrote was so cheesy im dying

omfg what he aint gay so obv he will do stuff to women. use ur fucking brains dumb gal

:/
honestly if you had a brain you wouldn't say shit like "obv he will do stuff to women!!11"
just because he's a heterosexual doesn't mean he has act like girls are nothing but things to satisfy his teenage hormonal urges .

just checked to see what yacine had originally said and holy shit

listen up you ignorant cactus fuck

I understand that you're pathetic and believe in misogyny like the lonely piece of shit you are, but you really need to take your head out of your ass for just one second.

Maybe you're still bitter about the fact that you were blacklisted? Uber-Blacklisted to the point that people would be worried that Baamm would "end up pulling a Yacine."

Maybe the only reason you're defending Red is because he took pity on your sorry ass and invited you back?

But that message is literally the grossest thing I ever read. Your stupidity makes me physically sick.

I'm gay, asswad. I like girls, a whole fuck of a lot, but you don't see me sexualizing and jumping on them wherever they go. That's not called "liking girls" it's called "molesting and making everything with tits uncomfortable."

When a guy "isn't gay" and "obv" does stuff to women, that's called sexual harassment.

Sorry for the big words, you might not understand. That means, being a dick and doing what you do. :)

The fact that you ended your sentence with "use ur fucking brain u dumb gal" really pisses me off too.

What, are you willing to use "girl" as an insult? Cause it sure sounded like it.

Before you whip some bullshit excuse out of your ass about how it wasn't intended as an insult, it was unnecessary, and only shows how much of a small, lonely, shitsucking bottom-feeder you are.

I'd tell you to think, fuckface, but "obv" you aren't capable of that.

slay1!!1! u!! go!!!!

......
there is no reason to continue with this tribe if red is all like this
i think that at this rate, red wont even promote anyone, just waifus and people he can "trust"
it seems like he doesnt trust anyone but those 8 or so that kept their respective ranks

im actually starting to turn down tfm because of red.
not a good thing

redninn a dit :

Dont worry about it. I wont be active much next year due to national exam. I'll be completely off during the year after that for 2 years due to national service in the military. I'll be giving the titled gods full rights since the tribe will be having a dead tribe chief. Yo might want to take that opportunity to rebel and do whatever yo want with the tribe. I'll probably be back after national service.

With all the suggestions on this discussion, Red is probably seeing his mistakes (especially since Vanilla isn't gone yet nor is this topic).

Also, if all that he said is true and that he's going to be gone for a while (I hate to see an important family member go for so long), then we can improve our tribe. I don't think this tribe is so far gone that it's not past a point of simply improving things, since we mostly agree Red's actions are the root cause.