Dunald a dit :

@179968

Can also easily be completed in either 1, or 3 planks.

No but honestly, way too many maps are permed without actually deserving it :c

Tzette a dit :

Challenge for newbies? A simple straight bridge to cheese and a simple plank to reach hole? In my eyes there is not any challenge in the map.

Barrydarsow a dit :

I just made threads and put links to them in the Map Crew FAQ.

Quentin a dit :

Rype - @1697034 (P4) : hard to understand this one. I already lose 90% saves in this map… TOO HARD for new shamans.

Quentin a dit :

Fload - @185090 (P4) and Fload - @183705 (P4) : Buildathon, limit impossible for hard shamans. And new shaman can't finish these maps!

Quentin a dit :

Fxie - @2412870 (P5) : Please, this is only "Jump and Jump again on the art", gameplay GENERIC.

Quentin a dit :

Fxie - @2416970 (P5) : Only wall-jump… I don't like this one. Pretty generic, again…

Quentin a dit :

Jptoledo - @2154135 (P5) : Gameplay is only "Jump in mushrooms"…

Quentin a dit :

Bombzero - @2446697 (P5) : okay, art is very great but there are two parts. 1st don't need any shaman, and second need shaman (go to hole…). I don't understand much why we can't go to hole solo… The rest of the map needn't shaman…

Quentin a dit :

Impuredeath - @491590 (P6) : I can't save any mice here (except pro) because it is too difficult for hard mode. Delete the shaman?
Viprin - @549675 (P6) : In this map, you can't save much mice. Delete the shaman?
Kenoriga - @217333 (P6) : shaman is very useless, he ruined the map if he does anything.
Froi - @219350 (P6) : Shaman ruined the map here. please, delete the shaman.
Zfc - @1756337 (P6) : Delete the shaman, because this map don't need any shaman.

Quentin a dit :

Temple - @155591 (P6) : Impossible to sham this map in hard mode.

Quentin a dit :

Hatzganatta - @1632748 (P8) : Only need too spirits and you finish this map.

Quentin a dit :

Twobigo - @969431 (P9) : I don't understand this map. It's a free saves map, just jump and corner jump.

Quentin a dit :

Yoyoyorlozer - @811211 (P10) : Mice can use "water use-bug" and you can't kill them.

Quentin a dit :

Dhalarat - @803082 (P10) : I don't see any shamans finish this map. Too hard for the shaman, and too easy for the mice.

Fxie a dit :

Start with this, shaman master -> hum okay, but for new shamans? impossible.


Impossible, you say? -> news shamans can't do this maps. It is so hard for hard shamans because there's no much place for build.


It is. Know what else it is? Art. If I wanted to make a racing map, I would've made a racing map. P5, if you hadn't known at the time you posted this, is the art map category. P7 is racing. Plus this map is a challenge for shamans since not everyone is a bootcamp god like you and can hit that angled walljump spot-on. -> Sorry but an art map needs have a good gameplay, a new gameplay.


It's amazing how you can't shaman yet you're a gameplay master. Good luck walljumping across the art because it requires a circle CJ. Then good luck walljumping that angle. This map is made to be both proable and made for a shaman. I don't see you bitching about maps that are nothing but shaman that didn't even try to establish such a balance. ---


So? It's art. You complain about walljumping, then you get something that isn't walljumping and complain about it too. You're just being obnoxious. -> Not original, and again, an art map needs have a new gameplay.


That's like saying every map that doesn't need a shaman for 100% of it should not need a shaman for any of it. Infallible reasoning. -> But it could be better if the map can be finish solo-able. :)


Only P7 maps do not have shamans. You can't just tell them to "delete the shaman." It's impossible. If these are mechanism maps, they deserve to be P6 because that's the mechanism category. You're telling them to do the impossible. -> Please, it is possible. Some vanilla maps haven't got shaman, and we can delete shamans in some maps.


Spirits are NEVER a viable solution to ANY map. You can spirit past any map with mice who can follow, but since when does every mice or even half of them have that ability? This map is too easy because it's 1 plank to solve for each shaman, but not for the reason you specified... -> Okay but it is too easy... Not to talk about this one.


Good luck cornerjumping with soulmates. You didn't seem to realize that huge aspect of this map. P9 is made for miscellaneous maps such as soulmates, which this is. Given it's simple, but every map can't be revolutionary. -> I have already cornerjump with a soulmate. Okay, P9 is for soulmate but there are many maps with soulmate, better than this one.


The water glitch is a bannable exploit. That's like saying you should remove a survivor map because hackers never die. Exploiting a ban-worthy glitch in ANY map with water is not legitimate gameplay and should not be held against the map. This map is perfectly fine for survivor despite its simplicity also. -> Okay with this. I'm sorry.


I tested this claim with my friend in tribe house. I killed him even though it's hard as hell to kill 1 person in survivor. Down cannons win this map every time. It's not hard at all for the shaman. It's perfectly fine how it is. -> When you have 25 mice in a room, it is very difficult, please, test it in a real survivor room.