original map:
This isn't the first or second time I've seen plagiarism from this player, so I decided to post this publicly in case there are still any rules about creating maps.
Mappers strive to create something new in their maps, and it's not fair for someone to take the idea, change 5% of the map and use that as an excuse to say it's not plagiarism.

If further proof is needed, feel free to contact me on discord or ingame.

Bautipro a dit :

Unknown a dit :VoirMasquer

Spoiler@7946857 plagiarism

original map:

Spoiler@6773628

This isn't the first or second time I've seen plagiarism from this player, so I decided to post this publicly in case there are still any rules about creating maps.
Mappers strive to create something new in their maps, and it's not fair for someone to take the idea, change 5% of the map and use that as an excuse to say it's not plagiarism.

First of all, I would like to make it clear that I am writing this solely because this person has publicly attacked me, accusing me of copying and plagiarizing maps more than once (without any proof of this). So I have been obliged to make this comment/response defending myself and my integrity as a mapmaker.

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In first place, I must make it clear that this person and I know each other. We've been close friends for a while, we've had our differences, and currently our relationship is pretty bad. Therefore, I strongly suspect that this report is nothing more than an attempt to attack and harm me, since the map he reports is not even highperm (if you like the rules so much, respect them in this thread).

Secondly, I have to admit that both maps are really similar, but this doesn't mean that my map is a plagiarism of the other or that I stole ideas to create it. In fact, I've never seen that p7 until now. My map is not a copy. I know it, Mapcrew knows it, and even he knows it. I know it because I am the creator of the map and I know perfectly well how I have created and edited it until it reaches its current state. Mapcrew knows it because they have reviewed my map more than once, giving me advice on how to edit and improve it so that the map fits into the rotation. If my map managed to be discussed, it was because I edited it for 2 months until Mapcrew approved it. Finally, he knows it because, as I said before, we were friends and at that time I showed him the first version of the map, which was for a vanilla contest, along with the other versions that I was creating, in which he helped me to improve the mechanism. Therefore, he knows that my map was not influenced at any time by any other map already existing.

Thirdly, I would like to make a small demonstration of a reality that has always run through the game, and for this I will use as an example a map of this person, since he seems to believe himself to be the "king of morality", but he is not so clean as he thinks. If you don't believe me, check out these maps:

Spoiler2011

Spoiler2022

I'm not saying that his map is a copy of the other, but they share several things in common, such as the same mechanism and even the same layout of the grounds. Therefore, I suggest that before you critique other people's maps, you should review your own first.

The reality I want to explain with this is that in the game there are currently almost 8 million maps, it seems to me that no one can know all of them. Therefore, there is a good chance that, if you create a map, it could have something similar to an existing one, but that does not mean that you are a plagiarist or that you have copied the idea. Just there are too many maps in this game and it's very difficult to make a map with something completely unique.

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In closing, I would like to make it clear that I am not looking for hatred towards this person, even if I have personal problems with him. I'm just doing this to put a stop to these nonsensical reports once and for all. If you have an issue with a mapmaker or a map, please resolve it privately or contact Mapcrew. This is going to be the only time I talk about this as I think I've made my point pretty clear and because I don't want to give this person any more attention, since the only thing he is looking for with this (besides causing me harm) is attention.

Let's let the mapmakers make their maps, because if it weren't for them, the game would become boring and monotonous. Peace ❤️✌️
Sorry for bad english, I wrote this with my native language and then I translated it with google translator.

Well, I don't think this is a topic to discuss this because as far as I know it's only for reports but ok, no problem.
You and your little friend seem to be trying to create a nice victim story about this, but don't worry, no one is stupid enough to believe that, because everything I say, I prove! And no, this report has nothing to do with my personal relationship with you, this was just another plagiarism you made and for those who have doubts, just look at the similarities in the prints above that I posted when I made the report. I only reported this because it was another plagiarism that I saw you do and all the mapmakers agreed that this is plagiarism, and there's no point in saying that the map wasn't "perm" because it was being discussed to be "perm" and that's it. That didn't happen because it was reported and then they discovered it was another copy of it. Simple and without secrets, against facts there are no arguments. And just responding about you saying that I helped you with the mechanism of this map and that I saw its evolution, that is a lie.

Now about the map that you accuse me of having made a copy of, as you say, I can say that I had never seen this map before, and I have witnesses to the development of this map, especially because it was from a vanilla contest 2 years ago I believe.
And I will also prove that my map was not copied from this map you mentioned.



See for yourself and draw your conclusions, does the map have a similar layout? yes, obvious. But does the map have gameplay similarities? Are there any similarities in the mechanism? Well.. There are people who prefer to create fabulous stories instead of just admitting that they steal ideas, and for those who don't know and think what I were a terrible person and I was unfair to this defenseless person, the reason we are no longer friends today is because he simply stole ideas from my maps and applied them to his maps. He stole ideas, mechanisms, etc. and never even asked for it. And that's not all, recently some of you saw that he came in 1st place in the Defilante contest but I believe that few of you saw that in the first version of this map he had stolen the "bees" design from the Qadori#0000 map, So Qadori reported this to Mapcrew and only after this report did he remove the bees from his map, and oddly enough he still won the contest while other participants made their maps from absolute zero, stealing nothing from anyone. Fair world, right?

Katwyn a dit :

Well, I don't even know where to start... but I must explain my map and show that you lack Empathy, Humility, and Respect.

What should I explain?

Did I really copy your mech? Yes, I used the mechanism as a base for an improved map, regardless of whether you made it by hand or not. Even though I "copied" your mech, the maps are not the same. I copied because I really don't know how to make mechs, so I decided to copy something ready-made to save time on making the same mech. However, at no point did I want to have a map that plagiarized yours; I just did it to get a sensible response about the map. But since you reported it, here I am.

1- Before you judge me for plagiarism, you should have looked in the mirror, because besides being a person with a lot of ego, you are an uneducated person who does not accept feedback from anyone on the team.

2- When I had a few years of friendship with you in the game, I realized that you were a person with a lot of ego and no respect, always thinking about yourself. Could it have been different? Yes, because we know your ability to make maps, one of the oldest mech players and one of the best. You only know how to sit on the backs of others when they make mistakes, but no one does the same to you. You could have been an example, teaching mechs since you are one of the best at it, but you prefer to keep your ego and sit on the backs of noobs, many of whom admire and were inspired by you until they discovered your true nature. If you had a bit more empathy and humility to teach people about mechs like Infectsoul, Theg, Ifo, Bautipro, and others, it would be much easier.

3- I ALWAYS said you were one of the best mech mappers and one of the best at p9, but when I told you that you only did p9 with mech and were good at it, you thought I was being arrogant, so you preferred to delete me and ignore me for praising you. You did the same with countless other mappers. Perhaps if I had discovered that you have similar maps in rotation or improved plagiarized maps with other purposes, you should be called a plagiarizer—maybe then you would like it.

4- As I said, you have similar maps in rotation with the same gameplay, and your vanilla is plagiarism of an old p6, only improved as Bauti mentioned above. Unlike you, I don't want you to get deperm, I just want people to know that you are a plagiarizer too by your own standards.

5- As Antoine Lavoisier would say, "In nature, nothing is created, nothing is lost, everything is transformed." The game has been around for 14 years, with practically 8 million maps made; similar maps will end up existing, as you have, and many other players have. It seems quite hypocritical to point the finger at another player when the same happens to you.

I don't want to talk more about this topic, I really wanted to show who you really are, besides other things I haven't mentioned about you.

I agree with what Bauti said, and I just want PEACE.

Remembering that I am defending myself from this attack of senseless hate

Hahahahh well you are the type of person who in front of others wants to pretend to be an incredibly correct person when we all know who you really are. You love insulting me by saying that I'm arrogant and that I have an incredible ego.
You know that everything you said about me is a lie, anyone who really knows me in the game knows the truth. People call you insufferable every day, you are the typical spoiled child who wants to say everything and doesn't want to hear anything. When I deleted you, you know very well what you said, don't pretend it was because you said that ridiculous sentence that doesn't make any sense, you are simply trying to make it seem like I removed you without having a relevant reason. But let's face it, I made the best of decisions, today I only have good and cool people on my friends list, you are not missed, maybe that's why you agreed with the bautipro to come here and do this beautiful show, speaking of which, no one Did you realize that you guys agreed to come here and try to defame me, okay? great disguise guys. You say I don't know how to accept feedback from the team hahah wtf? It's thanks to Mapcrew's feedback that I can improve my maps, it's thanks to their feedback that I see where I need to change in my maps. But of course, I'm just not as exaggerated as you to make a Mapcrew spend hours telling me what to do on my map, I'm aware of when I'm bothering someone, obviously you don't have that, because if you did, people They wouldn't talk so bad about you. You say I never help anyone? Who do you want to fool? I have never denied help to anyone in this game, except for insufferable people who think they know everything like you, that really must be the reason why you want to invent so many things. Do you want people to help you? Be more humble and know how to talk to people. I've always helped whoever I could in this game, but I don't have to prove anything to you, you're just a fake who seeks to attract attention based on truths said about you and your friend.
And just responding to your incredible "plea for peace", no one is fighting, you are the one who is furious because I reported a copy that your dear friend made on another player's map. Don't want to be reported? Do not copy!
Nobody is making any hate attacks, don't try to deceive people with your exaggeration on top of a report that has evidence and facts. It's simple and easy to understand.
And yes, you copied my map because you were angry when I reported your friend and because all the 15 people you put in the room to try to influence by saying that I had copied that map ended up refuting everything you said, so you were simply left with more angry and made this ridiculous plagiarism and now you think it's bad because I reported you too. Have more respect and try to be a better person, who knows, maybe people will like you.
I never said anything about being the best or saying that I'm superior to someone, I just try not to be an imbecile and a thief like you. There's no point in putting up catchphrases if you have a rotten spirit inside.

Offenses and more offenses but in public you are love in person, Good luck trying to deceive someone with your usual lying speech. Try to set it to hard because it's still very easy to deny you two. Both have plagiarized and both prefer to make up stories rather than simply trying to learn and improve in both life and the game. My feelings for you.

Katwyn a dit :

Unknown a dit :VoirMasquer

Katwyn a dit :VoirMasquer

Well, I don't even know where to start... but I must explain my map and show that you lack Empathy, Humility, and Respect.

What should I explain?

Did I really copy your mech? Yes, I used the mechanism as a base for an improved map, regardless of whether you made it by hand or not. Even though I "copied" your mech, the maps are not the same. I copied because I really don't know how to make mechs, so I decided to copy something ready-made to save time on making the same mech. However, at no point did I want to have a map that plagiarized yours; I just did it to get a sensible response about the map. But since you reported it, here I am.

1- Before you judge me for plagiarism, you should have looked in the mirror, because besides being a person with a lot of ego, you are an uneducated person who does not accept feedback from anyone on the team.

2- When I had a few years of friendship with you in the game, I realized that you were a person with a lot of ego and no respect, always thinking about yourself. Could it have been different? Yes, because we know your ability to make maps, one of the oldest mech players and one of the best. You only know how to sit on the backs of others when they make mistakes, but no one does the same to you. You could have been an example, teaching mechs since you are one of the best at it, but you prefer to keep your ego and sit on the backs of noobs, many of whom admire and were inspired by you until they discovered your true nature. If you had a bit more empathy and humility to teach people about mechs like Infectsoul, Theg, Ifo, Bautipro, and others, it would be much easier.

3- I ALWAYS said you were one of the best mech mappers and one of the best at p9, but when I told you that you only did p9 with mech and were good at it, you thought I was being arrogant, so you preferred to delete me and ignore me for praising you. You did the same with countless other mappers. Perhaps if I had discovered that you have similar maps in rotation or improved plagiarized maps with other purposes, you should be called a plagiarizer—maybe then you would like it.

4- As I said, you have similar maps in rotation with the same gameplay, and your vanilla is plagiarism of an old p6, only improved as Bauti mentioned above. Unlike you, I don't want you to get deperm, I just want people to know that you are a plagiarizer too by your own standards.

5- As Antoine Lavoisier would say, "In nature, nothing is created, nothing is lost, everything is transformed." The game has been around for 14 years, with practically 8 million maps made; similar maps will end up existing, as you have, and many other players have. It seems quite hypocritical to point the finger at another player when the same happens to you.

I don't want to talk more about this topic, I really wanted to show who you really are, besides other things I haven't mentioned about you.

I agree with what Bauti said, and I just want PEACE.

Remembering that I am defending myself from this attack of senseless hate

Hahahahh well you are the type of person who in front of others wants to pretend to be an incredibly correct person when we all know who you really are. You love insulting me by saying that I'm arrogant and that I have an incredible ego.
You know that everything you said about me is a lie, anyone who really knows me in the game knows the truth. People call you insufferable every day, you are the typical spoiled child who wants to say everything and doesn't want to hear anything. When I deleted you, you know very well what you said, don't pretend it was because you said that ridiculous sentence that doesn't make any sense, you are simply trying to make it seem like I removed you without having a relevant reason. But let's face it, I made the best of decisions, today I only have good and cool people on my friends list, you are not missed, maybe that's why you agreed with the bautipro to come here and do this beautiful show, speaking of which, no one Did you realize that you guys agreed to come here and try to defame me, okay? great disguise guys. You say I don't know how to accept feedback from the team hahah wtf? It's thanks to Mapcrew's feedback that I can improve my maps, it's thanks to their feedback that I see where I need to change in my maps. But of course, I'm just not as exaggerated as you to make a Mapcrew spend hours telling me what to do on my map, I'm aware of when I'm bothering someone, obviously you don't have that, because if you did, people They wouldn't talk so bad about you. You say I never help anyone? Who do you want to fool? I have never denied help to anyone in this game, except for insufferable people who think they know everything like you, that really must be the reason why you want to invent so many things. Do you want people to help you? Be more humble and know how to talk to people. I've always helped whoever I could in this game, but I don't have to prove anything to you, you're just a fake who seeks to attract attention based on truths said about you and your friend.
And just responding to your incredible "plea for peace", no one is fighting, you are the one who is furious because I reported a copy that your dear friend made on another player's map. Don't want to be reported? Do not copy!
Nobody is making any hate attacks, don't try to deceive people with your exaggeration on top of a report that has evidence and facts. It's simple and easy to understand.
And yes, you copied my map because you were angry when I reported your friend and because all the 15 people you put in the room to try to influence by saying that I had copied that map ended up refuting everything you said, so you were simply left with more angry and made this ridiculous plagiarism and now you think it's bad because I reported you too. Have more respect and try to be a better person, who knows, maybe people will like you.
I never said anything about being the best or saying that I'm superior to someone, I just try not to be an imbecile and a thief like you. There's no point in putting up catchphrases if you have a rotten spirit inside.

SpoilerWhat a great person you are, aren't you?

Offenses and more offenses but in public you are love in person, Good luck trying to deceive someone with your usual lying speech. Try to set it to hard because it's still very easy to deny you two. Both have plagiarized and both prefer to make up stories rather than simply trying to learn and improve in both life and the game. My feelings for you.

Yes, I'm sorry for my behavior yesterday, I let my voices speak loudly 1 time in my life, unlike you (Proving that we are correct) who is here again making hate speech, it's like I say I'm man enough to come own up to my mistakes

The perfect man who only made a mistake once in his life, wow you are really incredible, keep it up, you are almost convincing people that you are the king of false humility. And stop repeating that you are having some kind of hate speech, you just want to victimize yourself, accept your mistakes for real and stop pretending to be a helpless baby. I'm just reporting back to the copies you made. This isn't hate speech, it's following the rules of the game. If you don't know how to recognize this or don't have the so-called humility that you like to say in public, I can't do anything for you about this.
Bad time to try to lie to people o/
You would have been incredible a few years ago in a world where there was no way to prove anything with pictures.

This thread is not the place to discuss such matters, it only brings spam. I may remind you all that defamation is not tolerated on the forum (for a good reason), whether what is said is true or not. If you feel there's any need to continue the conversation in order to sort out all the problems, I highly encourage you to do it in private, be it either with the people involved or the mapcrew members.

Any following messages related to this topic on this thread will be deleted and the user warned.