Did I just get ignored.

Satash a dit :

Did I just get ignored.

No
but I do understand that admins should update it but my point I was trying to make is that events are only a week long
The least thing they should do by Friday when this event ends is give everyone the King's Cake title

Gabeyly a dit :

The least thing they should do by Friday when this event ends is give everyone the King's Cake title

What happened to "it's just a title it'll be available next year?"

That's the issue. . . The event is only a week long and they made it a luck-based event that made everyone frustrated.

Haruhitastic a dit :

Gabeyly a dit :VoirMasquer

The least thing they should do by Friday when this event ends is give everyone the King's Cake title

What happened to "it's just a title it'll be available next year?"

I didn't read it correctly.. (SADLY) It was referring to shop items only x.x

Haruhi : There's never been an Epiphany event before, but people complain about it. I complain about a Thanksgiving event beforehand. No differences. Cause, well "A801 administration don't listen to the players, so let's assume they never will and that they'll always do bad events".

And I don't see your point. While you can be proud of a small achievements, you don't have to bring the "hard work" card.

Where did you get the idea people said that Atelier801 will always do bad events? The issue is the present event, not the future or the past.

Pilouf a dit :

Haruhi : There's never been an Epiphany event before, but people complain about it. I complain about a Thanksgiving event beforehand. No differences. Cause, well "A801 administration don't listen to the players, so let's assume they never will and that they'll always do bad events".

They're still not comparable at all?
There's not attempting to be any disrespect. It's tradition, yes, that's understandable. But you do NOT come into a thread of unhappy people who are frustrated by your luck-based event, which people hate each time it comes out, and basically say "tough shit this is how it is irl." You've no business sense if you think that's okay.

Pilouf a dit :

And I don't see your point. While you can be proud of a small achievements, you don't have to bring the "hard work" card.

Might as well not be proud of your hard work studying for a test then with that logic hmmmm.

Haruhi : BOOM! Context magically disappeared! If you "work hard" for a test, it's natural, it's what you're supposed to do. If you "work hard" on a game, it's just that you have a problem with the notion of "game". You're supposed to enjoy a game. Some will love to have a godlike character, some others will love to struggle to go from city A to city B and encounter 12 dragons, 30 giants and 1000 thiefs on the road. Some will love to play a MOBA, some others will prefer a MMORPG.

But you know what they have in common? They ENJOY the game. They don't "work hard" in the game. You "work hard" in a game when you're a game creator, a beta testor that developers may pay or not, and so on.

When you're a player, you're supposed to play, to enjoy the game. If you feel that you "work hard", you should take a break and don't play the game for some time.

You can work hard on a game and enjoy it though? Some people enjoy diligence and hard-work. What point are you trying to make?

cagataymylov a dit :

Why do you want it to stay in the inventory after the event?

Idk, to know that you've completed the event and show everyone newcomers screenshots of it. Would work better as a badge though.
Just stop caring about title, and you will get it very soon. I got it on 46-49 cake. I was probably 3rd-5th who got it in my (private) room with usually about 14-18 people.

I think admins are just outright lying about how event works, or just don't know how it is implemented in code (only Tig probably knows). On the map there is 1/2 chance that charm will appear on first half of the room and on lowest cakes (assuming still one charm). Then, in normal rooms with at least 20 mice active, first half of the map should be surely collected, and someone get the title. But many cases were reported when there were several of event maps in row without the charm, which is sort of unlikely to happen. Then, if player gets the second charm, he may tell that in chat and risk wrath of the collectors (even people not interested in event enjoy getting new and rare items such as angel pets, I know someone exchanged 7 deers for 1 angel), or others can see it from the icon of the item he got (probably). Which is also wasn't reported.
Idk why I wrote this, no one reads this anyway.

Don't all video games have a luck based thing in it, that's why terms like RNG exist? Like I'm not saying you have to be pleased by it but there is a very long precedent of luck in games, like 30 years worth or so

Pilouf a dit :

Haruhi : BOOM! Context magically disappeared! If you "work hard" for a test, it's natural, it's what you're supposed to do. If you "work hard" on a game, it's just that you have a problem with the notion of "game". You're supposed to enjoy a game. Some will love to have a godlike character, some others will love to struggle to go from city A to city B and encounter 12 dragons, 30 giants and 1000 thiefs on the road. Some will love to play a MOBA, some others will prefer a MMORPG.

But you know what they have in common? They ENJOY the game. They don't "work hard" in the game. You "work hard" in a game when you're a game creator, a beta testor that developers may pay or not, and so on.

I feel that I work hard on Transformice, and School Idol Festival, and still enjoy it greatly? I guess I'm not playing games like you think I should. Sucks for me!

Travelingpik a dit :

Don't all video games have a luck based thing in it, that's why terms like RNG exist? Like I'm not saying you have to be pleased by it but there is a very long precedent of luck in games, like 30 years worth or so

That's true, but when you're on a time limit of one week and it's an event that may or may not happen again, you can get pretty upset and frustrated fast.

Oh dear, this discussion is turning into callouts and bloodbaths. I get we're all enraged at the A801 admins and this event but picking on Gabe over here just because he has an opinion and he made a mistake reading the update log, as well as fighting over "working hard is video games" isn't going to help fix the issue. Being divided and squabbling about it won't help either. You know, united we stand, divided we fall?

This is only the beginning of the adventure system. and I'm not going to start judging until at least the first 4 have passed. There are bound to be some bumps in the road, and yes, I'm angry I can't get the title either. The first week was great, this week is bad. There will have to be some experimenting. Heaven knows why the admins aren't listening. I think Sarthas is right that Tig is probably the one who actually understands the code and Meli and Zou just have to go with it. Perhaps whoever is responsible for the layout of this event is learning from this, perhaps they are not.

But yes, the luck system is extremely flawed and should be altered. I've still only seen one person get the title.

There is still a difference between diligence and hard work. Will the next step be "I'm a Stakhanovite, I played the game for 72 hours straight in order to get the title, love me admins, don't let me die without being heard"?

The point I try to make is that there is a gap between the critics there are here and the critics there are, eg, in French forums. Whether it is because we celebrate the Epiphany or not, for a people that like to go on strike and to criticize everything, we're waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less aggressive. To be fair, it's like the gap there is between saying to the admins "Your event needs some change" and loading a gun, placing it on the head of the admins and yelling "FKJREZFLKFJFSKDLFJ MOTHAFUCKA CHANGE IT".

That, and also the misuse of "hard work". One can enjoy work and hard work, it's far from what I said. I said that if you consider your game as a work but you don't earn money from it, either you should play less or you should ask A801 admins for money.

cantavi a dit :

Oh dear, this discussion is turning into callouts and bloodbaths. I get we're all enraged at the A801 admins and this event but picking on Gabe over here just because he has an opinion and he made a mistake reading the update log, as well as fighting over "working hard is video games" isn't going to help fix the issue. Being divided and squabbling about it won't help either. You know, united we stand, divided we fall?

Nobody's picking on anyone. It's how debates work.

Pilouf a dit :

"Your event needs some change" and loading a gun, placing it on the head of the admins and yelling "FKJREZFLKFJFSKDLFJ MOTHAFUCKA CHANGE IT".

Nobody's saying that, bruh. But as someone who's worked retail almost five years, I've got a decent grasp on how you handle your consumers, and this is not it. God forbid I have a different opinion or something.

Pilouf a dit :

That, and also the misuse of "hard work". One can enjoy work and hard work, it's far from what I said. I said that if you consider your game as a work but you don't earn money from it, either you should play less or you should ask A801 admins for money.

Not everyone enjoys games like you.

Pilouf a dit :

There is still a difference between diligence and hard work. Will the next step be "I'm a Stakhanovite, I played the game for 72 hours straight in order to get the title, love me admins, don't let me die without being heard"?

Nobody's saying that either. Don't twist my words, thanks.

Haruhitastic a dit :

weeabookun a dit :VoirMasquer

Anyways, people need to stop being so outraged. We need to handle this situation calmly and rationally, like the admins are doing. They already made an update to add another charm, so obviously they're listening. Do you think constantly screaming in their faces to "Fix it" or change the way one of their national holiday works will accomplish anything? We need to come up with a solution to the issue that benefits everyone positively, and then pass it on to the staff.

Have you not read through the thread? People have been providing solutions. The answer from staff is "this is how it is irl!"

Asking them to remove luck from a holiday based around luck is not a valid solution, which is why the staff isn't implementing that.