sabrec a dit :

May I ask then, What is art? I am sorry to say this, but you guys usually sound so rude when judging players maps. Would'nt it be easy to say it nice?

There is no nice way of telling a player their map has bad gameplay, it makes all the mice in the room die or it's just plain bad. Sure, we can try to make it sound a little bit nicer, but I'm sure many players would still be disappointed if they were told their map "lacks gameplay", because it's pretty much the same as saying the gameplay is bad and in the end it all comes to the same thing: your map wasn't accepted because it doesn't meet the standards of P5. It sounds rude, yes, but let's take your second map as an example:

It looks like you took some time doing the art and made an effort, and it does resemble of that building, so you did a good work there, but P5 isn't only about art. Will most people recognize the building? No, because most players from this game are not from Finland, so while you might see a magnificent building that might mean something great to you and your country, the rest just see a normal building that looks like the other millions of buildings there are in the world. It's easy to say your map is wonderful, because you made it and it means something to you.

Also, the art has no collision with mice, so they can't walljump it or play with it. What's needed to complete this map then? A spring, 3 planks or balloons. Was this fun for the shaman? Did it require a creative solution? Did it represent a challenge for the shaman? Nope. On the mouse perspective, is running from one side of the map to the other fun? Absolutely not, and we'd have waaay less players if all maps were about that.

Maps are supposed to be fun for those who play it. To me, a map can have the greatest viprin art I've ever seen, but if it doesn't have a good gameplay, it's not a good map.

I'm not saying this to discourage you from making maps, that is not my intention, what I'm trying to do with this is let you understand that maps must be fun, you must focus on making your map fun for mice to play rather than just making it look impressive. Even in 2016 we still have maps from 2010 because they're fun, even if they look horrible and aren't aligned, people love them and never get tired of them.

So all you can do now is take your building map and make some gameplay for it, make mice run around, bounce, walljump and slide on different parts of it. There's many building maps already, make mice remember yours because it was fun, not because it has a building in it.

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Thank you for your answer. :) It was helpful.
I must admit I was really tired when I wrote earlier today.

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@5302772, @5273279, @5273054, @5268707
todos son excelentes mapas

@6624269 vale la pena

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Left as is:
@6619627 - Wangan - Amazing art, but I don't quite understand what the right part of the map is supposed to be. It feels a bit off, I suggest changing it to something else. I'm leaving the map as is now so you can edit it later.
@6621361 - Obsyt - The art, while looks nice, feels kind of out of place to me. It's like it doesn't belong to it's environment. The gameplay is also boring.
@4841578 - Picapauui - The concept is intereresting, but the execution is not the best, it needs some more work. The right side of the map doesn't look aesthetic. The gameplay is quite boring aswell.
@6620492 - Uncomfy - Boring gameplay. The art is fine, but doesn't add much to the map.
@6550568 - Polchto - Nice art (Baymax <3), but it doesn't fit in the map. The other grounds, and the gameplay as a whole, feel totally random. Try working more on this map, add some environment.
@6545172 - Polchto - Poor art and gameplay.
@5887316 - Myaumyautou - Cute art and I like that it's upside down, but the gameplay is too short and boring.
@6623231 - Hamistervive - Really glitchy, and neither the art and the gameplay are good.
@6622080 - Hamistervive - Boring gameplay. and the art doesn't add much to it.
@6624269 - Projesuspro - Poor art and gameplay.
@6626025 - Andrelionte - Mass death map, art lacks details and plays no role in the gameplay.
@3939832 - Mousechris - The art is really pretty, but to be honest I'm not a big fan of the gameplay. It feels too short, and in my tests, only one shaman found out how to get the cheese.
@6628610 - Lolloltommy - Poor art and gameplay.
@6627119 - Andrelionte - Annoying gameplay, and the confusing collision and restitution properties make it even less enjoyable. The art itself is mediocre.
@6629336 - Skittlesuni - Poor gameplay, not really an art map.
@6629683 - Souscraft - Poor art and gameplay.


P1'ed:
@6618889 - Wangan - I like the art a lot, but the gameplay felt a bit short and boring to me. Also, the collision properties are unclear at first, and the fact that you need to use boxes to show them prove this - but it's not a huge problem. Overally, it's a nice map.
@6619922 - Obsyt - It's fine for P1 since the art is nice, but it doesn't make up for the boring gameplay.
@6614428 - Lzereturn - Art is fine, but not the best, and the gameplay is very repetitive. It's fine for P1 though.


Will be discussed:
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Ignored:
@5302772 - Projesuspro - Posted more than 2 maps (same post)
@5273279 - Projesuspro - Posted more than 2 maps (same post)
@5273054 - Projesuspro - Posted more than 2 maps (same post)
@5268707 - Projesuspro - Posted more than 2 maps (same post)
@6625314 - Souriismiice - Posted more than 2 maps (same post)
@6627565 - Souriismiice - Posted more than 2 maps (same post)
@6627691 - Souriismiice - Posted more than 2 maps (same post)
@6627723 - Souriismiice - Posted more than 2 maps (same post)