Tailtong a dit :

hi and welcome back to vcity
used v arrows in some places

v only solution only counts if no arrow anchor is used and also that build seems hard for mice to get cheese

please i dont need C,V, or B xd

Arber a dit :

please i dont need C,V, or B xd

Teach me your ways

sure

Map 17


xD

Map 98


NEW:

MAP 96

Arber a dit :

sure

Map 17

xD

Map 98

Oh yeah? Map 1 solved with nothing

Please i can solve map 59 without being shaman
this is a solution

since my vcity wasnt even a vcity and somebody complained my build being dangerous to mice
this time its only v planks and anvils + only rushers die
e: i should've added an anvil to a certain place

Tailtong a dit :

since my vcity wasnt even a vcity and somebody complained my build being dangerous to mice
this time its only v planks and anvils + only rushers die
e: i should've added an anvil to a certain place

no nails :

@3583744


 
 
 
 

@3996892

all of them'll eventually collapse because dumb mice

Tomdizzy a dit :

Teach me your ways

wtf tom. ssk?
anyways here tom, simplify

yus im too pro for complicated builds.




best build.



im the master?!

Infinitehate a dit :

and also that build seems hard for mice to get cheese

LOL, what do u mean? That's wierd idea. That means that build is done bad

Nuclearcoil a dit :

LOL, what do u mean? That's wierd idea. That means that build is done bad

so you're expecting v builds to be done stable

Tailtong a dit :

so you're expecting v builds to be done stable

Most of mine are except my diff 10 builds ;;

Tailtong a dit :

so you're expecting v builds to be done stable

Yep, I think hard-shamming means to make as good as possible build with as less as possible tools. He says that good build doesn't count meaning intending to build bad.

Nuclearcoil a dit :

Yep, I think hard-shamming means to make as good as possible build with as less as possible tools. He says that good build doesn't count meaning intending to build bad.

This isn't really hard-mode, it's something people like to do as a challenge. In other words, something to do for fun.

Does it really matter if it's stable? I'm pretty sure there are no rules to building and I'm not exactly sure who crowned you "king" of deciding these things either.

Whether or not a build is considered good is entirely up to the viewer. Some builds shine because they are overly-complicated with a new, fun, interesting result. Others show their worth because they are extremely difficult, involved complicated physics, or maybe just use the least amount of items in your build as possible. I've seen other builds that are great because they are just completely stable.Usually if a build doesn't lean towards one of these aspects, it's considered either bad or just not interesting. If you're building a v build on a diff 10 shaman map, just having a completion on it would be an impressive feat, however, a v build on a shaman map might be something we would look for stabability and completion. In a vanilla map, i'd consider a build impressive in it also integrated fewer item use and just looks asthetically pleasing.Let's look at two examples highlighted in this thread:
Ingenious build because of its simplicity. Something that would impress me because the shaman was able to create a build so clean looking and stable.

Creative difficult build because of the concept. This is something I wouldn't want to attempt myself. That's why its impressive.



My own overly-complicated build could be considered impressive because of the limitations and difficulty of the map. It may not be as stable as fxie's build on map 25 i showed earlier (and I barely got in on time), but it's considered impressive because I worked with so little and limited myself to certain building techniques. This is where stabability is often considered less important while just getting a completion would be a miracle (it sorta was, i spent 3 hours on this). There's also an aspect of creativity to these maps (just look at tomdizzy's build to @2537023 earlier in the thread...many wonder how the fak he came up with that) which makes builds more impressive.

FINALLY, as shamans in general improve their builds, builds are going to be judged more harshly. What was impressive in 2010 is child's play now. No one would have dreamed of builds like the ones shamans are making today. So in no way is anything i said going to stay true. Soon my builds are going to look shitty compared to others, but that's just how we all get better. But do take in mind that means a lot of noobies are going to be more harshly criticized for their builds on threads like this ;)

ROOM FOR ME TO ADD SOMETHING I'M ABOUT TO BUILD

confirmed for worst p8 ever

I did nothing.


And nothing again...this isn't supposed to happen right?