Gamercp a dit :

Absolutely not. There have been people asking in modules if stats count and when they hear that they don't count, they get upset but still play the game. If stats were added into modules, then people will care more about firsts than cheese and games like traitor won't be as fun anymore(due to the fact that many people win at the same time).

Impuredeath a dit :

It really depends for which game, some games don't need stats for sure, but there are ones which depend on it on the long run.

Kmlcan a dit :

To me it is not a good idea. I see some people come to room *#arena and ask "can I get firsts here?" then I say no and they get out. I think minigames should not be played for stats, they must be played because they are fun. Also they can get free stats, with doing nothing (like traitor).

Impuredeath a dit :

I don't know if a discussion thread like this already exists. But what do you guys think about the suggestion to add stats in modules. This suggestion has been arround since the whole module project started.

<b>So what do you think about enabling stats (cheese+firsts+saves) back into minigames?</b>

As many of you know a lot of old minigames transfered to the new lua system. But by doing so they lost one mayor motivational key. This was stats, unlike right now you are basically playing just to play the game. Before with certain minigames you could get firsts and cheese. Some minigames were really balanced and some were horribly balanced.

But if we look at the fastest grinding time for cheese, we can look at how fast pace racing is going. So I personally set that as my standard. So if we look at deathmatch (former ffa), that game only has 1 winner. If it got stats enabled only one person gets a cheese and only 1 first. Usually these rounds take just as long or longer than a racing round. Yet less people get stats, this would be the perfect balance and should be accepted for having stats, atleast acording to me.

Other similar games, and there are quite a bunch have well balanced win systems, these games should be able to get stats already if they were to implement it, but a lot still need tweaking because its really unbalanced. Games where you can afk win for example.

A lot of players are getting bored with minigames right now, because it feels pointless. They could be gathering cheese/saves/first if they play in normal rooms. But normal rooms get so generic after a long time. You might think, well i play the game because I find it fun. But a big portion of the people that play games, horde about the stats in it. Some examples with player drops is, when ffa transformed into deathmatch. What happend is we went from about 2000 players at any time to about 600. Ffa could have gotten a whole community dedicated to it, looking at the size. And just the fact you can build up, or excel in transformice in something else then running and building gives players more motivation.

Personally having no stats is just as demotivating, as having no music. Back in the day you were for example able to queue songs for baffbot (pre-deathmatch), and music would play ingame and everyone could hear it. Just having this community interaction and listening together was a big thing for me at the time. And just as that got removed, it took me away a bit from the actual game.

So what are your views on the whole stats thing, do you want them or are they pointless?

Kmlcan a dit :

To me it is not a good idea. I see some people come to room *#arena and ask "can I get firsts here?" then I say no and they get out. I think minigames should not be played for stats, they must be played because they are fun. Also they can get free stats, with doing nothing (like traitor).

Leafileaf a dit :

Like for example, uh, spiritual?

Sheriiu a dit :

#spiritual

Paperonaruto a dit :

It'll just attract statpadders to the minigames not people who actually want to play the minigame for what it is.