Sounds pretty pointless to me.

I think it good how people like it

emmyemmyblue a dit :

If you are on Divine Mode you can still use Yellow nails and Red nails Hard Mode you can still use Red nails.

The entire reason why I don't support, unless the helpers don't get any saves.

e: just read it again and found out they dont get saves, but the helper points are kinda likes saves.

The yellow/red nails in divine mode and the red nails in hard mode would completely take the challenge out of those modes.

No support.

Takes the challenge out of modes, it gives 'points' in which are like saves, And newer mice might let the helper do all the work without them to have the ability to learn/improve.
Also, there would possibly be an overuse of spirits if the helper is a 'troll.'

No support.

/no support, sorry--

As said, yes there are many trollers out there, they could probably kill the current shaman, somehow, or troll with the mice. Probably all maps are possible with one shaman worker. It would probably feel like a double shaman map nearly every round if everyone used this,

Haruhitastic a dit :

Sounds pretty pointless to me.

/no support

/no support.

Ummmmmmmm I posted this on the "New tree skill! Idea thread"

I have an idea.

Helper: when sham is noob and doesnt know how to solve the map, the sham can call a helper from the crowd that CANNOT kill the sham, if the sham is killed by a cannon, the sham must choose a new one. if the helper finishes the map, half the saves go to him.

(It could be useful for noob shams to look and learn from a pro. It would also help the mice get the cheese easier.)

This is litterally the same thing you said.... Did we have the same idea, or did you steal it? :P Idk it just came to mind.

If there were to be shaman helpers, there would be trolls spiriting everyone into a pit. This would cause me, and others to lose saves.
Horrible idea, I don't support.

I agree with basically all the none-supporters here. I think you've been given enough reasons, so you won't be making me explain why I don't support.

/no support

Stop making so many suggestions without thinking them through.

Pointless idea, sorry.

/no support

I don't wan't outrage drama when the shaman helper kill's all the mice
Then the mice will get pissed then start yelling at the shaman :T
/No support

/nosupport
i personally wouldn't enjoy that kind of gameplay, especially if i was cham and had someone trolling my build or spiriting the mice to their deaths.

puffpapa a dit :

Stop making so many suggestions without thinking them through.

It took me an hour to think of this...

/Support because I think they need spirits because sometimes the sham is AFK or the shaman is busy building and a mouse got stuck while the shaman was building the Shaman helper can spirit the mouse so it won't be stuck I think Personally think it's a Good Idea

emmyemmyblue a dit :

puffpapa a dit :VoirMasquer

Stop making so many suggestions without thinking them through.

It took me an hour to think of this...

Think of this. Not think through this. You need to think through it after you think of it.

This is basically double shaman all over again. We already have double shaman, why would a helper be very different at all? Also if you throw in "Helper Points" it'd be almost free saves for the shaman if the helper does all the work, and vice versa. If you add different holes for the helper and the shaman, then it'd be the same as double shaman.

/No Support

/Half support

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This is a new idea of mine. This shall only be available in Vanilla rooms.

Why not normal rooms? The normal rooms are harder than the vanilla rooms.

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What it is is basically someone will be chosen to be the Shaman Helper. They will look like a normal mouse with a normal blue feather. No markings.

I think prehaps the shaman helper should look different, but I have nothing against the appearance you have picked.

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The Shaman Helper can only spawn a spirit.

Spirits don't really help much on maps. I think a shaman helper should summon:
1) Planks - Long and Short
2) Boxes - Big and small
3) Anvils
4) Arrows

and have limited skills (Not sure on which ones though)

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A Shaman Helper won't get the saves and won't be in every round but what they can gain is Helping points. These Helping points are like saves. If you get 1000 Helping points you unlock a title called <<Helping Shaman>> and you will also unlock big and small planks when they are the Shaman Helper.

Planks should be unlocked from the start. They're very useful.
The helping points are like saves. Prehaps, the helper could gain extra cheese, depending on how well they help?
For example:
Less than a quater of the saves: No change
Quater to Half: +1 extra cheese
Half to 3 quaters: +2 extra cheese
3 quater to all mice: +3 extra cheese
Of course, then this could be used for cheese farming, to prehaps this would only be in rooms of 20 or more? (The number would have to be quite high, like 20 - 30) Then it would fall under free cheese soo... Not sure.

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For this your mode doesn't matter. If you are on Divine Mode you can still use Yellow nails and Red nails Hard Mode you can still use Red nails.

I disagree.
If sham is on normal mode, the helper is on normal mode.
If the sham is on hard, the helper is on hard.
Divine sham, divine helper.

However, the helper would have to of unlocked these modes.

Other suggestions:
A) The shaman can only call on a helper after a certain amount of time has passed
B) A mouse has the option to either be allowed to help or not to help. I think the sham should use a command like /helpme

For for example
Say mouse A wanted mouse B's help.
Mouse A would have to /helpme Mouse B
Then Mouse B would have to either accept or reject the offer.

Haruhitastic a dit :

Sounds pretty pointless to me.

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