2017 Events Guidelines & Discussions

#4781

Animjarcanin a dit :

Found in my files! Do you remember?

Ahh, yes... The Great Desert Adventure lua event that I don't really care too much. Still pretty memorable though.

#4782

Animjarcanin a dit :

Found in my files! Do you remember?

where?

#4783

Superyacine a dit :
So the chance of getting a doorknob is 1/10 so that means we need to play 10 maps to get ONE doorknob. Considering we need FIFTY that would mean ATLEAST FIVE FUCKING HUNDRED MAPS. If what YKR said is true, that would mean it would take approx. FIVE THOUSAND HOURS to get
the 50 required doorknobs...

It's not 1/10.

#4784

#Make_Events_Great_Again @MELI @TIG

#4785

Animjarcanin a dit :

Found in my files! Do you remember?

Egypt pyramid lua? o:

#4786

Is there any current lua event guys?

#4787

Perfecteca a dit :
Is there any current lua event guys?

There isn't.

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#4788

Hmiida a dit :
Perfecteca a dit :
Is there any current lua event guys?

There isn't.

Sadly.

#4789

When everything is recycled, why don't they recycle Helloween and Ghost map and make new titles for it...
For me that would be only good thing about this event

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#4790

Icequeenlox a dit :
Gallahger a dit :
woah lots of people are complaining about the events.. maybe they will fix them because of that?
also yeah me too.. i dont like these events..

do the admins give any fucks about our thoughts though

^^^

We're writing our concerns here since weeks now and they haven't even said one single word. Can tell how important the community is for them.

#4791

Hi!

Collecting doorknobs is by far the most annoying part of this event. Collecting 50 is an insane task. Let me break out the maths.

On the doorknob map, there are 5 tries to get the doorknob. There is a 50/50 chance each time of standing in the correct location. You get the doorknob, only if you are both in the correct location and it is the correct turn. (The doorknob is given out on only 1 random turn out of the 5). If you are in the wrong location, 8 different things can happen to you. 3 of which will kill you (it is possible to survive the pit but I have counted it as death, I have also counted cannon as non lethal).

So I wrote a script in python to simulate this and see what the probability of getting a doorknob on the map is.

Python code

Turns out that the probability is 0.24 (0.19 if you count cannons as lethal). Let's call it 0.25. I.E. we get a doorknob every 4 maps on average.
We have to collect 50 doorknobs. That's 200 maps.
The doorknob map plays 25% of the time only. So that's 800 halloween maps for 50 doorknobs.
A halloween maps plays every 30 minutes. Due to things like just logging on, you might get to play it earlier. Let's call it an average of 25 minutes waiting per map.

That's 20,000 minutes spent on tfm.
That's 333 hours spent on tfm.
That's 13 days spent on tfm.

And this is just the average. There will be people who won't even be this lucky. And there are some who need to collect 80 to buy titles and badges. Seems a little out of reach no?

Calculations with cannons counted as lethal

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#4792

Barberserk a dit :
Superyacine a dit :
So the chance of getting a doorknob is 1/10 so that means we need to play 10 maps to get ONE doorknob. Considering we need FIFTY that would mean ATLEAST FIVE FUCKING HUNDRED MAPS. If what YKR said is true, that would mean it would take approx. FIVE THOUSAND HOURS to get
the 50 required doorknobs...

It's not 1/10.

than what is it? there is a 1/2 chance of getting candy and it happened 5 times and doorknob appears randomly. it is 1/10

okay hob did the maths

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#4793

Superyacine a dit :
Barberserk a dit :
Superyacine a dit :
So the chance of getting a doorknob is 1/10 so that means we need to play 10 maps to get ONE doorknob. Considering we need FIFTY that would mean ATLEAST FIVE FUCKING HUNDRED MAPS. If what YKR said is true, that would mean it would take approx. FIVE THOUSAND HOURS to get
the 50 required doorknobs...

It's not 1/10.

than what is it? there is a 1/2 chance of getting candy and it happened 5 times and doorknob appears randomly. it is 1/10

It's 1/5 as I calculated above. Still shit. Horrible horrible shit.

#4794

What are the 4 that kill you? The Ice, disappear, pit and what else?

#4795

Hmmm. I miscalculated. I counted cannons as kill too. My bad, will edit the post.

Also, I don't want to be the person who only points out the problem. Proposed solutions:

1. Lower the requirements. Which means we dont need 50 doorknobs. Maybe like 20 or 25. But what about the people who need 80 for all the event titles and badges? They could trade I guess but if you aren't a social player, you are still in trouble.
2. Give players a doorknob if they are in the correct location. In any of the 5 tries, give players a doorknob if they are in the correct location. Limit to 1 doorknob per map. This brings the probability up to a respectable 0.67.

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#4796

You kids skipped a bit too many school days lately... Let's see. Propabilities? If we assume there is no death traps etc. The propability ot choosing the candy/door handle is 1/2 each time. If you do this 5 times, the propability of guessing the right door every time, (or the wrong one, doesn't matter) is 1/2*1/2*1/2*1/2*1/2=1/32 AND NOT 1/2*5=1/10. Ask your teacher. It's similar to tossing a coin. But there are many other factors. First of all, we are not interested in the propability of successfully predicting 5 coin flips in a row, (it is like a coin toss...) but we are interested in predicting 1 out of those 5, the one with the door handle, while surviving until it appears. Nobody really cares about the candy right? You see how more complex this is, to calculate. And then you have the traps. 2 of them kill you outright, (ice, disappearance) and 2 others need skill and speed to survive, (trapdoor, cannaonballs). Only the balloons are harmless. So, you see, you have to consider all these factors, in order to find the actual probability of earning a door handle. You have to see how likely it is to choose the right door when it comes and how likely it is to be still alive then. I would add the probability of getting the doors map, among all the others. We can assume no room jumping is involved, to simplify it a bit. But yeah, I don't want to bother calculating all that, it's partly based on the player's skill anyway, as I mentioned above. I completed the event so, not my problem anymore. But please don't spread false information. The probability to get a door handle on every man is most definitely not 1/10, mr. Superyacine and mr. Hobothehill. And in case you think you can predict it via other means, remember the Gambler's fallacy. I'll also leave you these 2 links, or you can google "coin toss probability calculator" if you are feeling curious.

Bernoulli process
Bernoulli trial

#4797

my friend got everything from the event but he plays a lot so it is rly hard for someone to get everything if he doesnt play 12 hours on weekends and like 9 hours on monday-friday
he got everything for 15 days
he got everything from the calendar and
his friends helped him with the other stuff he needed so yeah

he said that the event is hard and annoying

#4798

[Modéré par Batt_mellamy, raison : Unnecessary.]

#4799

[Modéré par Batt_mellamy, raison : Unnecessary.]

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#4800

Roskobg65 a dit :
my friend got everything from the event but he plays a lot so it is rly hard for someone to get everything if he doesnt play 12 hours on weekends and like 9 hours on monday-friday
he got everything for 15 days
he got everything from the calendar and
his friends helped him with the other stuff he needed so yeah

he said that the event is hard and annoying

I play everyday like more than 10 hours and i still didnt finished the doorhandels at all

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