Too many under-aged?

Kingfawas a dit :
i read it but u cna find some people saying kids dont need to play this game so i was just telling about them

But kids don't NEED to play this game, they want to. (unless your life depends on it but I doubt it)

Zeraxreborn a dit :
Overall kids shouldn't be on the internet is general. They ruin the experience for everyone, especially on forums making stupid comments, trying to get attention or just being stupid.

I disagree.
Although the internet has many bad qualities and influences, it is very helpful too. Nowadays many things are on the internet, such as online homework. Kids can also learn many things, even on the Transformice forums.

#562

Susanlwu a dit :

I disagree.
Although the internet has many bad qualities and influences, it is very helpful too. Nowadays many things are on the internet, such as online homework. Kids can also learn many things, even on the Transformice forums.

Yes, kids should be allowed to get on the internet but preferably under a strict parental control.

#563

Safwanrockz a dit :
Yes, kids should be allowed to get on the internet but preferably under a strict parental control.

This this this. This is how it used to be when I was growing up but parents have grown lazy in caring for their children.

#564

I agree to the upper 3 posts by Susan, Saf, and Haru.

Safwanrockz a dit :
Yes, kids should be allowed to get on the internet but preferably under a strict parental control.

And yeah, the parents should probably say "no talking to online strangers you don't know", etc.

#565

Kogurazul a dit :

Whenever I went into any rooms in Transformice, all the time I see there is like 1 - 3 (Not sure how old they are) people talking about raping or rape jokes and pretended to "rape" other people's mice. Not a pretty good sight actually. I usually mute these kind of people and report them immediately. I don't want children to be influenced by this kind of behaviour seriously. It will also be nice if the admins can add in the sexual words filter just for the children's sake.

I am the only one here that doesn't see this? I must be blind.

Though I would like to make a statement. While the content of the internet and the amount of 'under-aged' are both high, there is nothing that can be done to fix this. It would take the acknowledgement of this as a problem and the betterment of our species as a whole for this issue to be gone from our society.
When age-requirments are put on things, those who don't meet the requirement try to go around it.
The driving age in the U.S. is 16, yet those deemed 'under-age' drive anyways. The drinking age is 21, yet those that are under 21 drink in spite of the drinking age. You need to be over 18 to smoke, but teens do it anyways.
I personally feel it's about time for this thread to be locked as it's come to a conclusion. The under-aged players in this game, and on the internet in general, have become should I say, a burden in most cases. But there is nothing to be done about it. I've not seen a good idea on how to solve this issue since I started posting on this thread, simply people arguing whether or not this is true.

Nekoava a dit :
And yeah, the parents should probably say "no talking to online strangers you don't know", etc.

While I can see where you're coming from, just telling their children not to talk to strangers won't stop the problem.
The number of players that are under the age of 13, for the most part, did not get permission from their parents to play this game and their parents probably don't even know that this game has an open chat. I doubt their parents even care.

#566

for me i agree ik a boy he is just 11 ,i just meet him ,he said dat he is 20 years old then i said im 14 to make him to go away from me then he start asking me if he could to &%$# me -.- and in the chat
wt is happening with him?
then he starts asking me if i love him .-.
u should ban him i think he is anyyoing me alot

#567

Seeing how you're talking about a lot of underages and associating them with immaturity, I believe the real problem is immaturity. Seeing as this can exist in every age, and knowing that younger audiences exhibit this behavior more, I'll go with what Safwan said. Also, I think for that older people should work with younger people to tell them what's right and what's wrong, instead of bullying them and feeding them wrong info.

#568

Okay, I originally wasn't intending to get super invested in this thread, but.. Come on, rape jokes? How can anyone say that rape jokes are OKAY in ANY public scenario WHATSOEVER?

Let me put it this way. Let's say, for example, we are in the early 1900s, where racism towards African-Americans was extremely rampant, and the word '[Removed]' was used as a slur. A discussion between two racist, self-entitled white males might go something like:

WM1: "Hey look at that dumb [Removed], LOL."
WM2: "LOL."

Because of the racism of the scenario and the acceptance of the use of the racial slur, most racist white males would just assume that everyone else is just as racist and agrees with their idea that black people are inferior. As a result, the usage of the joke affirms that entire ideaology for both of the males, and they feel reinforced and validated that their opinion is the correct one.

So the twist here is, if one of them isn't racist, but is either a) making a SUPER EDGY JOKE in reference to RECENT EVENTS or b) is totally open to aforementioned SUPER EDGY JOKES, then the racist will STILL feel reinforced and validated about their opinion because ANOTHER person that they believe shares their opinion has either just made a joke about or laughed at a joke about their opinion.

Now re-read that paragraph and replace the 'c' in racist with a p, and absolutely nothing changes.

I'm not some autistic prude or anything, any joke about anything can in theory be funny if put in appropriate taste with enough recognition of the truth. Rape jokes can be funny. I hate to admit it, but they can be. Unfortunately, they are not acceptable because to make light of rape scenarios validates people who think it is okay to rape.

Mary Koss finds that 1 in 4 college-aged women have experienced either rape or attempted rape since age 14, derived from a survey of 3,000 college students in 1982. In the same report, "4.6% of male college students admitted perpetrating an act of sexual aggression that met legal definitions of rape."

Just think. Every time you go out, going to High School or College or even going to a minimum-wage work place where college students work to meet ends, there is nearly a 1 in 20 chance that a college-aged male you see is a rapist.

It is not okay to make rape jokes.

If anyone wants to call me out on the numbers I quoted, here's the report: http://www.soci270.carvajal.ca/documents/KossTheScopeofRape.pdf

#569

Gamercp a dit :
Also, I think for that older people should work with younger people to tell them what's right and what's wrong, instead of bullying them and feeding them wrong info.

While agree to some degree, you forget that there is a gray area. These 'kids' must learn that on there own, and can not just be tought right from wrong.

Rehoto a dit :
Okay, I originally wasn't intending to get super invested in this thread, but.. Come on, rape jokes? How can anyone say that rape jokes are OKAY in ANY public scenario WHATSOEVER?

Let me put it this way. Let's say, for example, we are in the early 1900s, where racism towards African-Americans was extremely rampant, and the word '[Removed]' was used as a slur. A discussion between two racist, self-entitled white males might go something like:

WM1: "Hey look at that dumb [Removed], LOL."
WM2: "LOL."

Because of the racism of the scenario and the acceptance of the use of the racial slur, most racist white males would just assume that everyone else is just as racist and agrees with their idea that black people are inferior. As a result, the usage of the joke affirms that entire ideaology for both of the males, and they feel reinforced and validated that their opinion is the correct one.

So the twist here is, if one of them isn't racist, but is either a) making a SUPER EDGY JOKE in reference to RECENT EVENTS or b) is totally open to aforementioned SUPER EDGY JOKES, then the racist will STILL feel reinforced and validated about their opinion because ANOTHER person that they believe shares their opinion has either just made a joke about or laughed at a joke about their opinion.

Now re-read that paragraph and replace the 'c' in racist with a p, and absolutely nothing changes.

I'm not some autistic prude or anything, any joke about anything can in theory be funny if put in appropriate taste with enough recognition of the truth. Rape jokes can be funny. I hate to admit it, but they can be. Unfortunately, they are not acceptable because to make light of rape scenarios validates people who think it is okay to rape.

Mary Koss finds that 1 in 4 college-aged women have experienced either rape or attempted rape since age 14, derived from a survey of 3,000 college students in 1982. In the same report, "4.6% of male college students admitted perpetrating an act of sexual aggression that met legal definitions of rape."

Just think. Every time you go out, going to High School or College or even going to a minimum-wage work place where college students work to meet ends, there is nearly a 1 in 20 chance that a college-aged male you see is a rapist.

It is not okay to make rape jokes.

If anyone wants to call me out on the numbers I quoted, here's the report: http://www.soci270.carvajal.ca/documents/KossTheScopeofRape.pdf

This.
Though I still don't recall ever seeing one of these rape jokes that we're speaking of.

#570

i uh
how does one go from "rape jokes are okay just ignore them it's just a word" to
"yes i agree that rape jokes are never okay"
@hatoncat

also good post red i agree with you that rape jokes are terrible and children should be taught that

#571

Soakitup a dit :
i uh
how does one go from "rape jokes are okay just ignore them it's just a word" to
"yes i agree that rape jokes are never okay"
@hatoncat

also good post red i agree with you that rape jokes are terrible and children should be taught that

These 'rape jokes' that everyone is talking about seeing on such a regular basis, are not right. But there is not much that can be done about them. I've never seen them, honestly so I must be missing something.
'Rape jokes' are not okay, but there is no reason to be offended by them so much. Just ignore it and move on.
I never condoned or supported 'rape jokes' which you seem to have misunderstood.
Like I said, there is not a 'right and wrong'. Nothing is just black &amp; white. There is and always will be a gray area.

#572

ya can't be on both sides of the pole, buddy
there's plenty of reason to get offended because they're wrong

#573

Soakitup a dit :
ya can't be on both sides of the pole, buddy
there's plenty of reason to get offended because they're wrong

Wrong, in a way, yes. Offending, they can be. But there is nothing you can do about it. There is always going to be something that can be perceived as offensive. I am not on either side of the matter. While these aledged 'rape jokes' are wrong, there are lots of things wrong in the world and people need to accept that.

Edit: Also, don't take what I said here out of context:

Tacnotah a dit :
Wrong, in a way yes.

I am not saying that they are in a way, right. As said, there is a gray area. It's all about how one perceives these potentially offensive jokes/statements/etc.

Edit: Also, how would you plan on teaching these under-aged players that 'rape jokes' in particular are wrong? Give a speech? Put 'rape jokes' into the filter/rules? Ban those who make them? All of those seem unrealistic or stupid. The filter is not used by the majority of the players, the rules are hardly followed and I see people use the n-word more than I do anything else. Banning them is just going to cause a large decrease in players and teach nothing.

#574

Its ok as long as people stop swearing at them and spaming. Young people need to be treated goodly not evily ^.^

#575

Boololo a dit :
Its ok as long as people stop swearing at them and spaming. Young people need to be treated goodly not evily ^.^

I'd point out that it's these "young people" that do most of the spamming and swearing. While I do drop the occasional fuck or shit in public chat of the game, I don't curse like a sailor. No matter what the conversation is about or who I'm speaking to/with.

#576

Tacnotah a dit :
While these aledged 'rape jokes' are wrong, there are lots of things wrong in the world and people need to accept that.

You make it sound like it's against the law to stand up to this nonsense or at least make an effort to. Not everything has to be ignored, people can fight against it, for the betterment of others. Even if it might not work, there's always the chance it can, so taking the "There's nothing we can do about it so might as well let it happen" stance is counterproductive and adds to the acceptance.

Haruhitastic a dit :
This this this. This is how it used to be when I was growing up but parents have grown lazy in caring for their children.

I agree. I was never allowed on the internet until I was like 15 or 16, I wish the same would happen now.

#577

That sounds almost defeatist. Yeah, there's little I can do about some people having such poor taste. I pick and choose my battles. However, whenever one of my friends perpetuates such a terrible attitude, I will talk to them, and I will at least attempt to persuade them that rape jokes are not something that is okay to make.

Even if you were to disregard the statistics I brought up, to make rape jokes in public, especially in a scenario where such a thing wasn't explicitly warned of beforehand, such as in a game where people play as a mouse chasing down cheese, that's just all kinds of rood as hell. Rape is something that is 100% guaranteed to be a traumatic experience. Compared to, for example, being of a minority race, which isn't guaranteed to be a traumatic experience? It's just tasteful to be careful about where you make those jokes, and in the long run more people will respect you for it.

#578

Tacnotah, just because you claim you've never seen them, doesn't make any difference in this matter.

And you're confused what I was saying?

Tacnotah a dit :
While these aledged 'rape jokes' are wrong, there are lots of things wrong in the world and people need to accept that.

You are telling us that we need to accept all this nonsense. Plain and simple, which is why I responded as I did.

#579

Lagiacruss a dit :
You make it sound like it's against the law to stand up to this nonsense or at least make an effort to. Not everything has to be ignored, people can fight against it, for the betterment of others. Even if it might not work, there's always the chance it can, so taking the "There's nothing we can do about it so might as well let it happen" stance is counterproductive and adds to the acceptance.

It's not a problem that will be fixed over the internet. For these aledged 'rape jokes' to end, people as a whole must better themselves and rise above it. Schools and parents have much greater effect on the life of this under-aged players than we do. I am in no way saying you should stop standing up for what you believe. I am simply questioning how you plan on executing this improvement to our society as a whole.
I am confused on how this is counterproductive. We're talking and discussing the matter at hand and I'm not defending the people that make these 'rape jokes'. I'm simply sitting here making response to what everyone says, wondering when or if someone will pull a solution out of their arse. All I've seen thus far is the agreement that rape, and rape jokes, are bad and that some underaged players don't understand this.
Note: I've yet to see an example of these 'rape jokes' also.

#580

Just recently, a few nights ago, one of my older friends on Transformice went on a spree of talking about everything he would "rape" because he was jokingly upset over something. Most of the things he listed were inanimate objects, such as forks, and spoons. He flooded the chat with it for a while, and it was supposedly funny. I'm still talking to him about why that was in such poor taste.

Does that count as an example?

I made that long post about rape because 1) I saw someone, a few pages ago, had posted saying that there's no reason to get upset over rape jokes and just get over it, and 2) I stand up for my beliefs.

In regards to the first point, there's a reason to get upset over rape jokes. The reason is that 27% of college women experience rape or attempted rape. In regards to the second one, it's not a problem that will be fixed with one sole thing, but if I can make a difference and reach out to anyone, even if it's just one person, and as a result save someone from suffering through what I have, then I've made all the difference in the world to that one person.

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