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[Survivor] Possible ideas to combat huggers?
Lagiacrus
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Fruitboots a dit :
/Support.

Has replacing meep with this been considered?

I'm not sure, but I hope that Sydo or the other admins see this, as it really would reduce huggers ten-fold. Thanks for the support!
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Adderley a dit :
*Collision would cause mice to kill the shaman.

Siuker a dit :
2.Shaman cannot be moved by any mice

Hence that almost only shaman can kill mice.Except that shaman cannon at himself,and some mice are involved to [push]shaman.

Johnlantern a dit :
I think if you made shaman not collide with grounds (as in items...this might be hard to program since they would have to go through items but NOT actual floors), then shamans could spawn a box and b plank it, then no one could hug them.

Yes,it could be hard to program.
But if they implemented it,shaman make a box and b-plank himself, conversely it also gives mice an advantage to dodge. A flat ground with convex is better to survive than a flat ground.

Another idea that I have suggested long long time ago is, anyone who steps inside the spawn area cannot see shaman,shaman is invisible to them.
But I was said it would be difficult to implement it.

Ananother similar idea with Lagiacruss,
Instead of die,mice hug for a certain time then they carry a cheese on their back.
Shaman"You hug and win a free cheese?Here you go you bitches!"
Lagiacrus
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Siuker a dit :
Hence that almost only shaman can kill mice.Except that shaman cannon at himself,and some mice are involved to [push]shaman.


Yes,it could be hard to program.
But if they implemented it,shaman make a box and b-plank himself, conversely it also gives mice an advantage to dodge. A flat ground with convex is better to survive than a flat ground.

Another idea that I have suggested long long time ago is, anyone who steps inside the spawn area cannot see shaman,shaman is invisible to them.
But I was said it would be difficult to implement it.

Ananother similar idea with Lagiacruss,
Instead of die,mice hug for a certain time then they carry a cheese on their back.
Shaman"You hug and win a free cheese?Here you go you bitches!"

That's actually a pretty good suggestion Siuker o.o I'd just like to see something like either my idea, or yours or Johnlantern's, seen by Sydoline when she browses this Suggestion subforum. We need something like one of our ideas to cut down on hugger.
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i want to support this but i agree with dunalnd

1.build a rape box
2. put your d in the box
3. ?????
4. SHAM WINS

so maybe this hug kill thing will only activate if shaman doesn't move..
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Boobsqooq a dit :
i want to support this but i agree with dunalnd

1.build a rape box
2. put your d in the box
3. ?????
4. SHAM WINS

so maybe this hug kill thing will only activate if shaman doesn't move..

That would be a good point Boobsqooq, but the shaman usually runs around to shake huggers off, with no success. That would make your idea kind of not too effective. And I don't see many shamans doing the "rape box" thing. Most shamans would just enjoy the hugger-less shaman turn that they get and just try to kill the mice without abusing the hugger death thing.
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/support half-way

At first this seems like a good idea, but say you have it so that you get killed after 3 seconds of consecutively touching the shaman; that means that you can zip in and out through the shaman back and forth a lot. Because I see that mice would start to stand next to the shaman, and then just cross to the other side if they fire a cannon.

It doesn't seem like this would stop hugging, but rather just force them to come up with a new strategy of hugging.

However I still support this halfway because it would be effective at stopping atleast 50% of the huggers. (maybe 40%)
Lagiacrus
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Firestonnne a dit :
/support half-way

At first this seems like a good idea, but say you have it so that you get killed after 3 seconds of consecutively touching the shaman; that means that you can zip in and out through the shaman back and forth a lot. Because I see that mice would start to stand next to the shaman, and then just cross to the other side if they fire a cannon.

It doesn't seem like this would stop hugging, but rather just force them to come up with a new strategy of hugging.

However I still support this halfway because it would be effective at stopping atleast 50% of the huggers. (maybe 40%)

It definitely would reduce hugging by a dramatic amount ^^
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Lagiacruss a dit :
I had this thought while playing survivor today.

So what I think, is that maybe Tigrounette could code the shaman in survivor to have the function of a vampire with a timer until someone gets turned into a vampire, but instead of that, he could make it to where if you hug the shaman enough, you just plain die. I think this would reduce most huggers and meep beggers.

I don't know if this is a good idea, but if you don't support then I welcome all criticism. Just please don't turn it into hate ^^

or maybe get rid of meep and everyone can quit complaing and it will go back to the old way where the shaman had to be smart to fight huggers instead of just having everything done for them
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Enemymule a dit :
or maybe get rid of meep and everyone can quit complaing and it will go back to the old way where the shaman had to be smart to fight huggers instead of just having everything done for them

But then get right back to the problem: huggers. Sure, meep increased huggers, but taking meep out without replacing it with a better substitute would encouarge even more hugging.
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All mini-games should be implemented properly instead of ran by bots. The next big update should involve ALL other game types and they should have OFFICIAL rules set in place that can't be broken.
Lagiacrus
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Puzzle a dit :
All mini-games should be implemented properly instead of ran by bots. The next big update should involve ALL other game types and they should have OFFICIAL rules set in place that can't be broken.

Well, that depends on if the Admins would like to code the minigame into the game.

However, I do agree that they should code survivor to announce the three rules: No Hugging, No Favoritism, and No Gods.

But I still stand resolute on my idea to combat huggers.
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Lagiacruss a dit :
But the. we get right back to the problem: huggers. Sure, meep increased huggers, but taking meep out without replacing it with a better substitute would encouarge even more hugging.

huggers kind of made part of the actual FUN i mean the whole room doesnt do it and its not like you cant kill them you just have to know how and that was part of the challenge. I mean if THIS happened sham can just trap mice and a box portal in and BAM every mouse in there is dead just like the people who kill with meep.
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Enemymule a dit :
huggers kind of made part of the actual FUN i mean the whole room doesnt do it and its not like you cant kill them you just have to know how and that was part of the challenge. I mean if THIS happened sham can just trap mice and a box portal in and BAM every mouse in there is dead just like the people who kill with meep.

Like I've said before, although some people find huggers fun, the reality is that most shamans dislike huggers and want them gone, including myself. Another huge reason they need to go is what I've stated before also: Since survivor is now an official minigame, and cheese is awarded for surviving, people have blatantly stated in chat that they hug just to get cheese. This needs to be STOPPED. They are cheating for the cheese.

Also, Holz's survivor (before it was made official) stated the rules of (No Hugging, No Favoritism, and No Gods) for a reason. Those things are cheap, lame, and just cheating. Survivor shouldn't be filled with people that are cheating for free cheese, hence why I made this suggestion.


Enemymule a dit :
sham can just trap mice and a box portal in and BAM every mouse in there is dead

This couldn't happen. There is no way that the shaman could make a small enough box quick enough to trap many mice in it, and would end up being a waste of time, therefore not many, if any at all, would try this useless tactic with the idea I have.

And before anyone says "They can just make a trap box totem", I have also made a survivor suggestion (on my alternate account Ronweazley) about removing totems from survivor, which Sydoline has so kindly put on her to do list ^_^

Found here:
Topic-96639

(It's locked though, so go here only if you want to see it. Locked because Sydoline saw it and is now planning it with the admins.)
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Bump~
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I support this, it would make it way easier to be shaman in survivor c:
Lagiacrus
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Darklonewolf a dit :
I support this, it would make it way easier to be shaman in survivor c:

Yes, since there wouldn't be cheating huggers all the time. ^^

Thanks for support!
Lagiacrus
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Bumping only because near bottom e.e
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/No support
Lagiacrus
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Anaqizxc a dit :
/No support

May you please explain why you don't support, that way I know you're not "/no support" just to spam suggestions with negative false comments?
Lagiacrus
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I'm only double-post bumping because it was completely off the list. Good thing I had the URL to it.
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