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[Event] Shaman Event!
Emmyemmyblue
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inthebin a dit :
Would it not be easier to just have two teams with double spawn tags?
It would save having to contrive an entire questionnaire.
Have you accounted for potential cheaters spreading answers for a specific side anyways?
This suggestion also reminds me of the Fight mini-game, what is the difference?
If you are just gonna say "So it fits the back-story" it is not really a strong point at all.
We need to know why the bombs are relevant to the back-story without a shrug of the author "Because it says so" excuse.
The dressed up mice makes no sense at all either.
You make it sound like this a personal affair between two shamans rather than an entire group of shamans.
By making mice dress up as fake shamans what is exactly going on that makes it "Fair"?
Does the shamans even do anything?
I say the better shaman gets the saves versus the shaman that gets saves based on whose team has the fastest mice.
What is up with the nightmode too?
If you seen regular room maps before, you can see how difficult it already is for a lot of people.
Now can you think about adding nightmode?
Can someone explain the point about titles?
If this is a shaman event with saves being the core mechanics, then do we not already have titles based on saves?
I think adding badges will only make this redundant.
They are good in the fact that they "reward" people for paying for expensive fur rather than forcing out a strange title.
Another issue as you may have seen with double shaman fight maps is that shamans spawn on opposite sides their respective hole is.
This just makes it easier to block off the hole and generally just cheat the entire thing.
Not everyone has the Demolition skill.

Now what would I do differently?
1. Make both shamans spawn in opposite side with mice.
2. Disable spawning options within a select vicinity of hole.
3. Make this really about two shamans going to "War"
4. Double Spawn Tags to make it really random.
5. Take out Nightmode
6. Take out titles.
7. Take out badges.

I think if you want to keep the badges alive as much as possible then I probably would have shamans being awarded with exclusive items that unlock badges much like buying furs or playing events.
This would limit how much badges and items you can win which I feel is a good thing.
Bombs can be part of the maps hazards much like lava is to certain maps.
To everyone who says that having a bigger map is pointless, think about this:
If one shaman builds to the hole that is it.
The event is done and over with the "Victorious" shaman being the one with the fastest mice.
This is to further express that this is about shamans going to "War".
I understand this post is long and I tried reading what everyone else replied with and with OP's responses.

These responses are in order to EVERYTHING said.
Nope. Because not many people know what a double spawn tag is and nobody spawns anyway because the pink shaman wanted to make it fair.
The quiz consists of three multiple choice questions. It is not that hard.
No. Yet everything has some sort of cheater, right?
Well, nobody spawns, everyone is shaman.
Well, a bomb represents a war. The pink and blue shamans have put it on the opposite sides (the map makers) and it will explode at the end of a map.
They aren't dressed up! It is shamans that have lost their power. Why ask the above questions if you already knew this anyway?
It is. Seriously, in a war the people in the army are forced to do it at a certain age! It's teh leaders who hate each other!
That nobody can cheat or have an advantage with skills.
Except be mice and go to the hole (everyone on the map that is) no.
No saves because everyone on the winning team would get a save as there is no picked out shaman.
It's in bird's eye vie. Without it, people would just cheat and look where to go.
There is no wall jumping because you are seeing the mice from up above and a maze.
Yes.
All events have titles.
YES BUT THERE ARE NO SAVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why?
Why?
You can't spawn.
You can't spawn.
What?

You can't spawn.
THEY ARE ALREADY DISABLED!
It is. The bombs...
You can't spawn.
Could make cheats.
It wouldn't be an event.
It wouldn't be an event.

No, because this is what non-events do.
It's tricky to earn badges and titles so no.
No, I did a vote to something like this and it got no.
You can't spawn.
Well the "Victorious" shamans
Yes, yes it is.
Yes, yes it was...

moshimoshiz a dit :
About the questions some one asked a few comments above, you didnt really answer the question that asked "Will the questions be easy or hard?". Another question ypu didnt really answer was "How will the questions be shaman related?". I would like to know a better answer for theese questions and I think the person who asked them does too.

How silly am I. I thought they meant their questions. Haha.

They will be easy because one if them is: What is your favorite colour. This will be multiple choice too.
They aren't to do with shamans because it is how you relate to either shamans personality.
And the other question about how much time, you get about a minute before the three questions leave. You get one chance to answer these because otherwise, the admins will choose your team.


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Meowuse
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I dont like the idea. It seems boring and doesnt seem like much fun...
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/support
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emmyemmyblue a dit :
Nope. Because not many people know what a double spawn tag is and nobody spawns anyway because the pink shaman wanted to make it fair.

Not everyone know the double spawn tags and yet you assume they know nightmode tags?
Do you know how nightmode works?
Nightmode works when the entire map goes to black and the only thing you see is your mouse.
You cannot have a "Bird eye" view like that, it is physically not possible without changing nightmode mechanics.

Much like it is not possible to have a "Bird-eye-" view in a 2D game.
emmyemmyblue a dit :
They aren't dressed up! It is shamans that have lost their power.

Your explanation now makes sense instead of "Because the pink shaman wanted it to be fair".
What you need to work on is solidifying the idea instead of throwing up a cobbled together, half-thought idea and expecting to refute every point you make instead of improving on feedback.
emmyemmyblue a dit :
Well, a bomb represents a war. The pink and blue shamans have put it on the opposite sides (the map makers) and it will explode at the end of a map.

Why did they put the bombs and not make them explode?
Are you just gonna say "To make it fair" again?
Also, you really cannot put a "Bomb" in a map that is not timed or triggered by mice.
But I suppose you can do it with LUA commands.
Oh... but "Not everyone knows how LUA works".
emmyemmyblue a dit :
No, because this is what non-events do.

>Puts [Event] in tltle.
>Not even [Event]
>Mfw

I am going to assume you mean "Unofficial event" and look over that.
Since this is "Unofficial" you really cannot do anything you expect without existing help with LUA functions since these are physically impossible in Map Editor.
Good luck also with your "Bird's eye view" idea in a 2D (Re:Flat) game.

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You can have bird's eye view. It will be flat to the side but look like it's looking down on it.
I planned this out before I posted it!
I did not say they don't explode! Two giant bombs are dropped at the end of the game to tie in with the theme.
It is an event because what you said wasn't. I meant this to what you said, not the forum. Duh.
I DIDN'T SAY THIS WAS NOT AN EVENT!
It is a suggestion dude.
I told you. It can still work. It's still flat but viewed from above.

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Edited. (mods please delete this comment and I am sorry for double post, but no one has commented for 13 days)
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/support
Emmyemmyblue
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Thanks!
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/support
Marte
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http://atelier801.com//topic?f=5&t=788424&p=4#m80
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Surprised this is the new event :/
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Yeah pretty surprised as well LOL.
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It just has the same name. I doubt the shaman event will be anything close this cr stuff
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puffpapa a dit :
It just has the same name. I doubt the shaman event will be anything close this cr stuff

You don't know.
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Yeah puff is right. This has nothing to do with the other Shaman Event made by the admins.. it just has the same name.

That event is that the new skill tree is coming and they added some new items with it.. At least that's what i understood from that thread. o_o
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Its so cool. Same name as new event
Puffpapa
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moshimoshiz a dit :
Its so cool. Same name as new event

You've said that about 5 times now
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Is this the same event that Atelier announced?
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galaxywaves a dit :
Is this the same event that Atelier announced?

'shaman event' is ridiculously vague, so hopefully not.
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