Ratieau a dit :

argument

Ratieau a dit :

They ruined it the instant they released this stupid update of "skill trees"

angelfromaj a dit :

Are. You. *effing*. Kidding. ME.
How did they ruin TFM? The players ruined it.

Pinksrainbow a dit :

right, so why are you using your skill points? if they're so stupid, there shouldn't be a point in using them, right?

Ratieau a dit :VoirMasquer

argument

where in your argument does transformice make money?

angelfromaj a dit :

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They ruined it the instant they released this stupid update of "skill trees"

Ever heard of the word "troll"? The second the people said it this game turned to dust.

Spanflame a dit :

You mean this? http://prntscr.com/6abusf

Pinksrainbow a dit :

right, so why are you using your skill points? if they're so stupid, there shouldn't be a point in using them, right?

Sinnwidrig a dit :

I feel like you'd think demanding the right to barter with a store instead of using currency is feasible, and that you're forgetting that this game is a source of entertainment, not entitlement and obligation. If you want to get touchy on the store metaphor, think of your accumulated cheese as components to an item that you're crafting. And if you want to gift somebody, don't be cheap and be glad that there is now even a system that can accommodate that, I think the only issue here about that is that you can't afford it, so you're making the developers out to be a petty band of greedy guts because you're used to getting whatever else on your computer for free and instantly. We've been playing this game since there were no hats or rewards and we kept playing anyway, you jump in and seem to think other people only exist to please you and free you from burdens that may otherwise inhibit absolute enjoyment of the thing.

Feel free to think whatever about the skills, either you understand and can use them or you don't, but how dare you assume you can dictate how other people may use them. We are playing this game together, not with you.

charbelsa a dit :

Why are you all saying 'If you don't like those skills, don't use them'? Huh? Didn't the admins put the skills so we can all (well, most of us) use them? Let's say that some of them are useless, we can now say that they don't have to use them. But like, most of those skills are useless, but not all of them. Plus, those are our opinions, and admins could perhaps make the skills better, but eh it's okay for me. I understand that some things work just like that. But, the skills are kinda ruining the point of the maps. Like now, we do not have to even build. But, I am glad that some mice can use them so they can get saves, yes, I know, but they're still ruining the point of the maps really.. Those skills replace the Shaman Items, we don't even have to use them anymore.
Trolling is a part of the game, PART of them game, but there are some really.. troll-ish skills.. for example, those cannons (landslide skill?) is useless for Shaman maps.. It's more like for survivor.. but it's ruining it as well. (okay where am i now aff).
Stop saying not to use it anymore. Admins added those skills so most of us can use it.
Well, I am just using my old skills. I just wish I had the long plank.

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Why are you all saying 'If you don't like those skills, don't use them'? Huh? Didn't the admins put the skills so we can all (well, most of us) use them? Let's say that some of them are useless, we can now say that they don't have to use them. But like, most of those skills are useless, but not all of them. Plus, those are our opinions, and admins could perhaps make the skills better, but eh it's okay for me. I understand that some things work just like that. But, the skills are kinda ruining the point of the maps. Like now, we do not have to even build. But, I am glad that some mice can use them so they can get saves, yes, I know, but they're still ruining the point of the maps really.. Those skills replace the Shaman Items, we don't even have to use them anymore.
Trolling is a part of the game, PART of them game, but there are some really.. troll-ish skills.. for example, those cannons (landslide skill?) is useless for Shaman maps.. It's more like for survivor.. but it's ruining it as well. (okay where am i now aff).
Stop saying not to use it anymore. Admins added those skills so most of us can use it.
Well, I am just using my old skills. I just wish I had the long plank.

Wow ! You ruined your own paragraph by one sentence, good job. I say that cause long plank is the ultimate useless skill, the one which make the game too easy. You build 1 long planks and get saves. So why map makers should take care of how they make their maps if they are endable by using 1 skill ? .-.

ratieau a dit :

ultimate uselles skill

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which make the game too easy

ratieau a dit :

1) About "gameplay", I used my brain during more than 2 years and can't see a little piece of gameplay. The game is based on fraise, no more. For example, why not use the Inventory like ALL MMORPG use it ? To create an in-game economy (with cheese, not fraises !), make the players able to exchange items they won, etc. I wonder if A801 staff think from time to time. Transformice as enough potential but it is not used cause it can't make more money. Another example : The goal of any game should be to take care of his players, no threat them like an on-leg-purse. Players are what makes you lives. Players are what makes you have job. Without players you are nothing !

2) Only a fact. A801 ruined Transformice to get more money.

3) Are you kidding ? A fur cost about 10.000 chesse where it cost only 200 fraises. If you use your brain only 30s you will understand that 10k cheese could be earned in about 1 month where 200 fraises takes 2 minutes to get.

4) What's the goal of a company ? Make their customers happy to use their products. That's not the case if customers are angry but never listened. Another example could be Bouboum and Fortoresse, two games which were launched without any reflexion and which received their last update 2 years ago. Plus, a server cost in about $50. With 10 furs they can pay for 2 servers.

5) If the vote system was more usefull, it weren't much bullshit map. Example : New games should start only when more of 50% players voted the map. The other 50% could be away from keyboard, the game still start.

6) You are awesome. You manage to see the logic where logic isn't. Skill trees are just ruining the game for players, sur it's more fun for shamans. But it's really boring for players who want to play the game without luck, but skill-based. Now A801 focuses on new players, ancient player don't have the right to be listened ? He doesn't deserve it after all this time spent on supporting their favourite game (Transformice) ? Why new players are faved ? Cause they never used money, so they have money to spent than ancient players. I maintain that Transformice is only a way to earn money on the back of players.

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ratieau a dit :VoirMasquer

charbelsa a dit :VoirMasquer

Why are you all saying 'If you don't like those skills, don't use them'? Huh? Didn't the admins put the skills so we can all (well, most of us) use them? Let's say that some of them are useless, we can now say that they don't have to use them. But like, most of those skills are useless, but not all of them. Plus, those are our opinions, and admins could perhaps make the skills better, but eh it's okay for me. I understand that some things work just like that. But, the skills are kinda ruining the point of the maps. Like now, we do not have to even build. But, I am glad that some mice can use them so they can get saves, yes, I know, but they're still ruining the point of the maps really.. Those skills replace the Shaman Items, we don't even have to use them anymore.
Trolling is a part of the game, PART of them game, but there are some really.. troll-ish skills.. for example, those cannons (landslide skill?) is useless for Shaman maps.. It's more like for survivor.. but it's ruining it as well. (okay where am i now aff).
Stop saying not to use it anymore. Admins added those skills so most of us can use it.
Well, I am just using my old skills. I just wish I had the long plank.

Wow ! You ruined your own paragraph by one sentence, good job. I say that cause long plank is the ultimate useless skill, the one which make the game too easy. You build 1 long planks and get saves. So why map makers should take care of how they make their maps if they are endable by using 1 skill ? .-.

omg i ruined my own paragraph. guys ples i need a clapclap.
But like seriously? Isn't this thread about our opinions? I like the long plank, and I would like to use it. You cannot tell me what to like and what to not use. Plus, thank you for taking that 'sentence that ruined my own paragraph' and started talking about it.
And, well, I was thinking about making a thread in the suggestions section about the long planks.. writing that they should be limited since they're too long and we can finish the maps quickly. But, I didn't do that so eh.

ratieau a dit :VoirMasquer

ultimate uselles skill

ratieau a dit :VoirMasquer

which make the game too easy

I am sure you meant 'which ruins the point of the map' instead of 'make the game too easy'. It's not useless. It just ruins the point of the game, but I still like it. My opinion.

Onkei a dit :

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1) About "gameplay", I used my brain during more than 2 years and can't see a little piece of gameplay. The game is based on fraise, no more. For example, why not use the Inventory like ALL MMORPG use it ? To create an in-game economy (with cheese, not fraises !), make the players able to exchange items they won, etc. I wonder if A801 staff think from time to time. Transformice as enough potential but it is not used cause it can't make more money. Another example : The goal of any game should be to take care of his players, no threat them like an on-leg-purse. Players are what makes you lives. Players are what makes you have job. Without players you are nothing !

2) Only a fact. A801 ruined Transformice to get more money.

3) Are you kidding ? A fur cost about 10.000 chesse where it cost only 200 fraises. If you use your brain only 30s you will understand that 10k cheese could be earned in about 1 month where 200 fraises takes 2 minutes to get.

4) What's the goal of a company ? Make their customers happy to use their products. That's not the case if customers are angry but never listened. Another example could be Bouboum and Fortoresse, two games which were launched without any reflexion and which received their last update 2 years ago. Plus, a server cost in about $50. With 10 furs they can pay for 2 servers.

5) If the vote system was more usefull, it weren't much bullshit map. Example : New games should start only when more of 50% players voted the map. The other 50% could be away from keyboard, the game still start.

6) You are awesome. You manage to see the logic where logic isn't. Skill trees are just ruining the game for players, sur it's more fun for shamans. But it's really boring for players who want to play the game without luck, but skill-based. Now A801 focuses on new players, ancient player don't have the right to be listened ? He doesn't deserve it after all this time spent on supporting their favourite game (Transformice) ? Why new players are faved ? Cause they never used money, so they have money to spent than ancient players. I maintain that Transformice is only a way to earn money on the back of players.

1) Since when was this game a MMORPG? Did I miss Transformice 2.0?

2) How did A801 ruin transformice? Please elaborate.. I'm still enjoying this game very much, if you don't like the game itself there's still plenty of modules for you to play around with.

3) And how can A801 make their customers happy if they don't have a source of income? How can you be so sure of saying a server "only" costs $50? This isn't a minecraft server that holds 50 players, this is a server that A801 is hosting on their own website for 30,000 players daily all around the world. If you use your brain only 30s you will understand that is a big difference, a big difference.

4) Don't want to be that guy, but your example is horrible.

5) People nowadays sure can twist just about everything in transformice and make it relate back to why the game is just for money. Jeeeeeez

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Why are you all saying 'If you don't like those skills, don't use them'? Huh? Didn't the admins put the skills so we can all (well, most of us) use them? Let's say that some of them are useless, we can now say that they don't have to use them. But like, most of those skills are useless, but not all of them. Plus, those are our opinions, and admins could perhaps make the skills better, but eh it's okay for me. I understand that some things work just like that. But, the skills are kinda ruining the point of the maps. Like now, we do not have to even build. But, I am glad that some mice can use them so they can get saves, yes, I know, but they're still ruining the point of the maps really.. Those skills replace the Shaman Items, we don't even have to use them anymore.
Trolling is a part of the game, PART of them game, but there are some really.. troll-ish skills.. for example, those cannons (landslide skill?) is useless for Shaman maps.. It's more like for survivor.. but it's ruining it as well. (okay where am i now aff).
Stop saying not to use it anymore. Admins added those skills so most of us can use it.
Well, I am just using my old skills. I just wish I had the long plank.

Wow ! You ruined your own paragraph by one sentence, good job. I say that cause long plank is the ultimate useless skill, the one which make the game too easy. You build 1 long planks and get saves. So why map makers should take care of how they make their maps if they are endable by using 1 skill ? .-.

omg i ruined my own paragraph. guys ples i need a clapclap.
But like seriously? Isn't this thread about our opinions? I like the long plank, and I would like to use it. You cannot tell me what to like and what to not use. Plus, thank you for taking that 'sentence that ruined my own paragraph' and started talking about it.
And, well, I was thinking about making a thread in the suggestions section about the long planks.. writing that they should be limited since they're too long and we can finish the maps quickly. But, I didn't do that so eh.

ratieau a dit :VoirMasquer

ultimate uselles skill

ratieau a dit :VoirMasquer

which make the game too easy

I am sure you meant 'which ruins the point of the map' instead of 'make the game too easy'. It's not useless. It just ruins the point of the game, but I still like it. My opinion.

I never told that you cannot say what you want. Plus I never said that using skills was forbidden, just that using skills means that you don't have level. Lets make this thread, I'll /support it.

About planks, in my point of view It's absolutely useless since it make the game loose it interest. Become shaman now means that you have not to build.