[Survivor] Possible ideas to combat huggers?

le good idea is le good

isupport

Very good Ideas, but still, huggers hug. /shrugs

Very nice idea! A bucket full o' support for you.
/Support

/No support
Why? It would increase the amount of shaman huggers. They would try to chase us instead of use cannons or they could do both things at same time.

#85

/Support is all I can say...
1000000000% rawr.

#86

/support

#87

Thanks for the support guys.

And

Hamburguesin a dit :
/No support Why? It would increase the amount of shaman huggers. They would try to chase us instead of use cannons or they could do both things at same time.

Lagiacruss a dit :
It probably would be good if the meep was removed, but as someone else suggested, it would be best if the meep was able to lose its upward blast, and just side-to-side.

I really don't think it'll be abused that much, since trying to trap mice and use this to kill them would fail epically, since it'd be hard to trap mice in a small enough space for a long time, and the shaman wouldn't want to waste his/her time doing that.

Also, this idea doesn't have to be used concretely, it can be improved upon. Thus that is why I put other suggestions that people have placed on here in my OP that can improve upon mine.

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As much as you think that the shaman would abuse this too much, it's just way too impractical to do so. The shaman wouldn't want to waste their shaman turn chasing around mice. Even though I like the vampire maps a lot, a lot of people don't and wouldn't want to use the same technique to abuse this feature to kill mice.

Also remember that this thread, I have compounded all the ideas that can improve upon mine into the OP, and my idea isn't the set-in-stone perfect idea. It's just an idea.

But this would reduce huggers a lot, and the side-effects wouldn't be as bad as they were with the meep, which increased huggers begging for high spots.

#88

Hᴇʀᴇ's ᴛʜᴇ ᴡᴀʏ I ᴛʜɪɴᴋ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ʙᴇ ɴɪᴄᴇ:
Iɴ sᴜʀᴠɪᴠᴏʀ ᴍᴀᴘs, ᴛʜᴇ sʜᴀᴍᴀɴ ʜᴀs ᴍᴏᴜsᴇ ᴄᴏʟʟɪsɪᴏɴ ʙᴜᴛ ɪsɴ'ᴛ ᴀʙʟᴇ ᴛᴏ
ʙᴇ ᴀᴄᴛᴜᴀʟʟʏ ᴍᴏᴠᴇᴅ ʙʏ ᴍɪᴄᴇ. Tʜɪs ᴡᴀʏ, ɪᴛ's ɪᴍᴘᴏssɪʙʟᴇ ᴛᴏ ʜᴜɢ ᴏʀ ᴋɪʟʟ
ᴛʜᴇ sʜᴀᴍᴀɴ ʙʏ ᴘᴜsʜɪɴɢ ʜɪᴍ/ʜᴇʀ, ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇ sʜᴀᴍᴀɴ ᴡᴏɴ'ᴛ ʜᴜɢ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍɪᴄᴇ.

#89

That's a pretty solid thought Adorablebaby. However, the text you used sometimes shows up as only boxes for people, so I'll go ahead and retyped it for people that have that problem:

Adorablebaby a dit :
Here's the way I think would be nice:
In survivor maps, the shaman has mouse collision but isn't able to
be actually moved by mice. This way, it's impossible to hug or kill
the Shaman by pushing him/her, and the Shaman won't hug the mice.

I'll also add your thought to the OP with credit to you.

#90

I support but then I dont, Like if the shaman had that power he might just go and hug the mice instead.

#91

Zackybear a dit :
I support but then I dont, Like if the shaman had that power he might just go and hug the mice instead.

Thanks for the support. Try to refer to my previous posts about how it's irrational that most shamans would try to go around hugging mice, therefore eliminating that of being widespread.

#92

No support. Hugging, whether you like it or not is just a part of survivor - and shamans hug mice just as much as mice hug them. Meeping combats huggers just fine if used with the proper strategy.

#93

Lacielovesyo a dit :
No support. Hugging, whether you like it or not is just a part of survivor - and shamans hug mice just as much as mice hug them. Meeping combats huggers just fine if used with the proper strategy.

False.

Hugging hasn't "been a part of survivor." It is merely a tactic that people came up with to basically cheat in survivor.

Why do you think Holz had his bots greet you with a whisper that specifically said "No Hugging!"? Because hugging is just not right in survivor.

Also, many people (Including me) have already stated how the meep actually increased huggers who beg for the meep up to high places, which is ridiculous. It's just about near impossible not to meep mice up who are hugging you, since they're right on top of you.

Anyway, my suggestion isn't the only thing in this thread. Look in the OP and you'll find more which other people have made on here.

But to wrap it up, hugging is NOT a part of survivor, and meep does more harm than good.

#94

It's a tactic that's used in the game, it's apart of the gameplay. Just how I view it though, I wasn't trying to start a huge disagreement. But I view it as part of the game because of how often people use it, as a tactic, to win. Annoying or not, it can make it more interesting while being the shaman having to be more clever in how you use your cannons and the meep function. But eh...

#95

Lacielovesyo a dit :
It's a tactic that's used in the game, it's apart of the gameplay. Just how I view it though, I wasn't trying to start a huge disagreement. But I view it as part of the game because of how often people use it, as a tactic, to win. Annoying or not, it can make it more interesting while being the shaman having to be more clever in how you use your cannons and the meep function. But eh...

Even though you might view it as a "tactic", that's the major problem. People that hug view it as a tactic.

However, "hugging" was never intended to be used in survivor, and it was developed by mice who wanted to find a way to cheat the system to win. It has never been "a part of the gameplay", but more like an annoyance factor that people refuse to give up just because it's too easy for them to hug and win, which is cheating on survivor.

Just because people use it often, doesn't make it ok. People use it "often" so they will win survivor rounds. Before the update that made survivor official was released, and no cheese was earned, people hugged to become shaman.
However, ever since the update where it was made official and you earned cheese, hugging is a major problem now, because mice are now technically cheating for cheese. This would be like exploiting a water glitch to get a first, or hacking to get cheese.

And even though there are a /few/ shamans who find huggers a challenge to beat, a major majority of shamans highly dislike huggers. And the meep doesn't help either, since it has increased the number of huggers since it blasts them up to advantageous spaces.

tl;dr: Hugging is not a part of survivor, it is a nuisance that is wrongly viewed as the norm, and needs to be stopped. Hence why I have created this thread, to bring together mine and others' ideas to help get rid of huggers and spread the message that hugging is cheating in survivor.

Edit: Goodness, I put too much thought into my messages ;_;

#96

support for no hugs and serve the huggers right
and i is support

#97

Tigrounette, implement this instead of anti-bot protection plskthx.

#98

Evilsantah a dit :
Tigrounette, implement this instead of anti-bot protection plskthx.

Good to know that I'm not the only hardcore survivor player that wants/needs this. Thanks Santah.

Hey Santah, may I sit on your lap and ask for this suggestion to be implemented into survivor for my Christmas gift?

#99

There is a possible option where the shaman goes near the mice and chase the mice around the map until they die for being to close. That would be unfair to those who follow the rules.

#100

I hate huggers when im sham at survivor. I cant cannon jump also. Sham should have a force field or something like that. /support

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