Lucra a dit :

You guys think Bigger Cheese is worth it? It doesn't seem to be if you ask me.

I only got it because I didn't like some other skills and I wanted to move on to the next row.
Like, I don't find Superstar/Big Sham very useful either.

Lucra a dit :

You guys think Bigger Cheese is worth it? It doesn't seem to be if you ask me.

It is. It actually saved me a plank and some time.

Takumisyn a dit :

I only got it because I didn't like some other skills and I wanted to move on to the next row.
Like, I don't find Superstar/Big Sham very useful either.

Big sham is actually quite useful. It increases the range you can spawn items in. There have also been a few times big cheese has been useful.

Saracirce a dit :

Big sham is actually quite useful. It increases the range you can spawn items in. There have also been a few times big cheese has been useful.

Oh! That sounds really cool! Maybe I'll get it!

Defilante in vanilla maps is the best thing ever omfg

Level up to fast... too damn fast. I know after will be slower, still, reaching level 25 seems a bit fast, and people could already have many active skills.
Do a restart and make it slower to level up, NERF skills now, OR, take care of a next update on shaman tree, a bit of a continuation of the godess story; increassing level max to 200 and skills not to max 5 but to max 10, but even there, skills might need a nerf right now. Either the way. Looks a bit like people playing non stop to reach lvl 100 fast and then.. kapoof..
Give time to people to use new learned skills. <- important.

EDIT: don't make this a thing of only giant special skills on top, make people think is worth having any skill.

I agree some things need nerfs. I liked that things like reviving mouse is a one shot thing with 5 mice coming back. The spirtual cloud skill needs a limit, maybe like 3 clouds- or 2. I've watching people complete maps with nothing but the clouds and its honestly really stupid.

Rocket science needs to be nerfed too, a limit to being used twice maybe? I'd get to see how its generally useful for anything save for people who think theyre pro because theyre using something everyone can get- gross. There are generally others but yeah.

It's kind of like totems and hardmode. I actually love hardmode but there was a lot of nerfing it went through those first few weeks of its life and thats what this new system needs. Limits need to be put in place because otherwise people generally abuse everything. I see this update as something that should aid and make shamaning more fun but it shouldn't take away every spec of difficulty ever.

Agreed, and since you talked about hardmode, i still think this skill tree should be only aplied to Hard mode.
Since it should aid, aid at will on hardmode, since normal mode is.. well... normal.

EDiT: Still didn't seen a cloud!! already clouds? that was fast @@ What they do?

EDIT2: Does the Mass reduce works? 50% seems a lot and i don't see any difrence, special with cheese, any difrence at all.

I think both things need to be nerfed, normal and hardmode. Limiting hardmode shamans in this free for all kind of skill set too much isn't too fair neither is denying it to normal mode shamans. There are already a few skills absolutely worthless like spirit ratio.

The clouds, theyre a basically a solid platform to stand on, they neither rise nor sink but can be pushed side to side. Spawned like any other item with no limit. It defeats any general need to anchors.

The mass helps, it does make the shaman lighter and makes wj and such easier, you'll tip builds less too if you're building alone somewhere.

If I recall- cheese doubles the weight of mice! SO if you have a 50% mass reduce and pick up cheese it's normal wall jump.

To unlock the final skill in any tree you work if on only need like 26 points I believe so there are people with them. Flying seems more popular o/

I want to update here.
at lvl 31, hard mode saves are now 10 per mice while normal is 5.!

Fierying a dit :

I want to update here.
at lvl 31, hard mode saves are now 10 per mice while normal is 5.!

I noticed that as well, but honestly leveling up is starting to take forever so i feel like that's okay.

So far alot of the skills are useful but I wouldn't mind a nerf on most of them. Although since I only know the wind master tree, which is reeeeeally crazy with my current build, but it's still a lot of fun. The skills are great but most of them are optional for windmaster and contridict one another.. Ehh..

What does Bigsham do?

(Im already using it cause its fun, I just want to know its use.)

You actually have a little bit better spawn range.

Oh! I just noticed. Thanks.

Green tree is just too op. Sham can rspawndead, give cheese, put them in hole, and do all of this in a green apple too which is 5 free saves and like 30/50 more points (depending on level)

loving the wings

Im gonna get the wings

Then go in a private room

And have fun

Rawrzgrrz a dit :

loving the wings

Hi I have wings too, they are indeed amazing mixed with rocket and projection.

Hmm.. I need to get back to leveling. Really does start to take a while in the higher levels.

They change with your sham color? (the wings)

Now i REALLY cant wait to get them.

Is the rocket scientist skill working properly? I duck for like 15 seconds when there's a lot of smoke under me, but when I let go it just propels me to wherever I'm facing (not upwards). Is it supposed to work like that?