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[Shaman] Savage Mode
Force_shaman
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http://i.imgur.com/xso2O.png
Here is a sample of my V only building.
Long builds are possible with correct use of precious boxes,
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Time consuming. And even if you are good at sham some people are not that good. So sorry a no on the V only idea.
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http://i.imgur.com/xHKe9.png
lul I'm not serious about making it a mode. I'm just saying if mice want more of a challenge i think they'll do it themselves
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Johnlantern a dit :
http://i.imgur.com/xHKe9.png
lul I'm not serious about making it a mode. I'm just saying if mice want more of a challenge i think they'll do it themselves

I feel obligated to say nice build bro
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LMAO ok then you should have specified yourself so do you support sir? Btw tomdizzy no bloons nor anvils so yeah the build disobeys savage mode rules though still creative.
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Tomdizzy a dit :
I feel obligated to say nice build bro

lol yours is pretty rocking too

Supanugget a dit :
LMAO ok then you should have specified yourself so do you support sir?

nah i think hardmode is good enough.
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Supanugget a dit :
He/She means only V which means no attaching arrow anchors of C. Which for long distance builds would be impossible.

It actually isnt too hard to make a bridge with only v anchors like on a gap map. You just have to make certain supports. But thats what i like about Fxie's suggestion, it had a big challenge even for experienced players.
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People won't support until a new gameplay-changing feature is added.
I suggested servo motors, which will spin until they hit something (not mice), then spin the other way, and so on.
Also shaman spawn time would be cut in half as a benefit.
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Hey are we discussing "master mode"?

If you want to make things harder, you shouldn't say "only V is too hard"! It may have died, but my master mode suggestion (essentially a V-only mode) received lots of support. I personally am finding C anchors to be far too reliable to allow for any more difficult mode including them to truly be a challenge.
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Fxie a dit :
Hey are we discussing "master mode"?

If you want to make things harder, you shouldn't say "only V is too hard"! It may have died, but my master mode suggestion (essentially a V-only mode) received lots of support. I personally am finding C anchors to be far too reliable to allow for any more difficult mode including them to truly be a challenge.

Well when you take away weight and mobility as a whole from a shaman, you have to rely soley on purfect structure, which in many cases is not possible. they also have to build their way to the mice instead of cannon or something.
I mean v only is going to be TOO hard for most mice. Very few are capable.
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Tomdizzy a dit :
Well when you take away weight and mobility as a whole from a shaman, you have to rely soley on purfect structure, which in many cases is not possible. they also have to build their way to the mice instead of cannon or something.
I mean v only is going to be TOO hard for most mice. Very few are capable.

Isn't that the entire purpose? To make the ultimate challenge?

You should try playing some level 9 room shaman maps and see just how far some people can go :)
When suggesting a new shaman mode, I don't think "too hard" should ever be an issue. Also, this is something I was doing in the master mode thread: you give me a map, and I'll solve it with V.
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Fxie a dit :
Isn't that the entire purpose? To make the ultimate challenge?

You should try playing some level 9 room shaman maps and see just how far some people can go :)
When suggesting a new shaman mode, I don't think "too hard" should ever be an issue. Also, this is something I was doing in the master mode thread: you give me a map, and I'll solve it with V.

I can do some level 9, but not all of it lol. Even if you did make it only V nails, i think something still needs to be added to the gameplay, which is where everyone is stuck.
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Fxie a dit :
Hey are we discussing "master mode"?

If you want to make things harder, you shouldn't say "only V is too hard"! It may have died, but my master mode suggestion (essentially a V-only mode) received lots of support. I personally am finding C anchors to be far too reliable to allow for any more difficult mode including them to truly be a challenge.

I was thinking v only with a 1 time use c anchor item. lol
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Not sure how to add to actual new mode gameplay, but after a large amount of saves in it you should unlock some kind of "Master Ability". Example (not serious), after 10,000 saves in this mode you get an increased spawn range while in the mode only.
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Tomdizzy a dit :
Not sure how to add to actual new mode gameplay, but after a large amount of saves in it you should unlock some kind of "Master Ability". Example (not serious), after 10,000 saves in this mode you get an increased spawn range while in the mode only.

Increased spawn range in v would make things so possible lol
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The point of the topic was to make the gameplay harder not the hardest :3. Also the point of this mode is to make it harder by making people use brains and rely on architecture. With anvils they will rely on weight. Which is why C anchors are needed for this mode. V anchors are just an optional thing you can do to look more pro. But for now the things on the main post is the facts. Everything here is completely optional. And Fxie/Willinator, What is the fact? Support or not? I need to know so I can know which names to put up on supporters.
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The thing is. If you don't make it as fxie said, "the ultimate challenge", then there will be room for yet ANOTHER mode suggestion. We should cut to the point and make this the final challenge for shams. I was going to make a thread but i'm not sure if fxie wants to revive it herself, because i don't want to steal it, so to speak.
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I would rather have it 1000 hardmode saves, because hmode does waste a lot of your time and ends up failig because of time so you could be pro with it but not have enough time.. other than that, support 1
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Lionheartmmm a dit :
I would rather have it 1000 hardmode saves, because hmode does waste a lot of your time and ends up failig because of time so you could be pro with it but not have enough time.. other than that, support 1

If you cant use hard mode what makes you think you can do master mode or w/e its going to be called
You need to be GOOD at hard mode to play the harder mode.
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Tomdizzy a dit :
The thing is. If you don't make it as fxie said, "the ultimate challenge", then there will be room for yet ANOTHER mode suggestion. We should cut to the point and make this the final challenge for shams. I was going to make a thread but i'm not sure if fxie wants to revive it herself, because i don't want to steal it, so to speak.

Maybe when this dies I'll remake master mode. I don't think any new shaman mode will ever be implemented, though. This would only appeal to an elite few shamans.

Also, these are my thoughts exactly: if you add another mode, considering there's two already, it'd have to be the ultimate challenge. Considering red nails are the biggest difference between hard mode and easy mode in terms of actual building, I figure C nails should be the big difference in the successor of hard mode.
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