@424604 - P3 : It's very simple for bootcamp and very easy too
@6568526 - P3 : It's very hard for bootcamp and impossible
@251052 - P4 : P9*
@239698 - P3 : The shortcut with the trampol is very easy
@261959 - P17 : Must be a P5
@217881 - P17 : must be a P5

@3960105 - P18 - we can't see grounds in minimalist mode

@7135554 - P1: Left wing is not distinguishable from what is colidible or not, confusing players.

@3822307 - P18 - we can't see grounds in minimalist mode

Normal Rotation:

Kkkkkkkarry a dit :

@3425885-P5 mechanics crashed

The mechanism seems to be working correctly. Staying as is.

Nwpu_yangzi a dit :

@1236385 - P5
This simply-structured map make FPS Fall. As the FPS is usually 60 in other maps (even in those complicated-structured maps), this map make the game goes crazily at 16 frames per sec. I don't think this map should be banned from appearing; i like its artwork. But to find out and fix how it makes FPS fall is a must.

This might be an individual issue. I cannot see any change in fps and the map doesn't contain anything that could cause it. Fine as is.

Mousechris a dit :

@4792912 - P9

I think a map that literally T bags the player is kinda inappropriate for P3+, max P1 imo. But on top of that the sync based mech causes serious luck gameplay for firsts.

Map is fine. Nothing inappropriate. Staying as is.

M23 a dit :

@6926916 - P4
big rectangle adds nothing for gameplay and just annoying imo

It's a unique concept that requires players to move the ground to be able to navigate the map. Fine for P4.

Danila2007 a dit :

@6506841 - P66

Invisible grounds all over the map when minimalist mode is On

Spoiler

Valentines themed batch has been depermed.

Zeus a dit :

@251052 - P4 : P9*

It doesn't involve the typical building techniques as most P4 maps, but it is fun. It doesn't harm to have a few maps like this one in rotation. Staying permed.

Racing:

Qtangel a dit :

@153951 - P17? - people keep getting stuck in the chocolate corners because the friction is increased too much on those grounds

This can happen occasionally, but it usually can only be achieved if players try to get stuck on purpose. Map is fine.

Zeus a dit :

@261959 - P17 : Must be a P5
@217881 - P17 : must be a P5

Art can be used in various categories other than P5. Not an issue in P17, so the maps will remain permed.

Defilante:

Sprinkles a dit :

P18 - @7829862: I'm not sure if this was just me and if it can be recreated, but I spawned and got stuck in a box/the ground and wasn't able to move, before dying due to the moving border in defilante maps. An image can be found in my discord post (because I don't know how to do add it) here: https://discord.com/channels/246815328103825409/755163035483635754/952219576559599677

A mod said I should post it here and suggest to move the mouse spawn a bit higher.

The mice spawn is fully above the box, so the problem is sync related. Not a major problem, staying as is.

Karoshera a dit :

@3960105 - P18 - we can't see grounds in minimalist mode

Karoshera a dit :

@3822307 - P18 - we can't see grounds in minimalist mode

Minimalist usually doesn't work in defilante as the mode was not intended to be compatible with it. The team has previously decided that such maps will not receive edits.

Others:

Eistter a dit :

@7135554 - P1: Left wing is not distinguishable from what is colidible or not, confusing players.

This thread is only used for reporting P3+ maps. All P0/P1 maps can be reported here.

Bootcamp and Survivor reports will be handled separately.

@3629261 - P17 : impossible to slide on the ice only few mice can do it
@3785774 - P4 : Must be a P7 because the treadmill is just for bouncing. There is no mechanism
@6996225 - P7 : Must be a P6
@2860683 - P13 : can end the map in several ways, especially at the beginning and it's bad as P13

P9 - @331800 : I don't know if this can be considered a reason to remove maps, but I think it should be something to watch out for in game maps: Very old maps that had their routes and obstacles unusable due to shaman skills. Note that this map if the shaman has a large cheese skill active, the player will not be able to get through without taking the cheese and entering the lair on his own, which was the right thing to do.

@499472 - The gameplay is very short, in just 7 seconds it is possible to complete the map. I suggest putting double spawn, one in each hole and changing from p6 to p7.

Jasseh a dit :

@7770300 - P10 - Suggestion to remove the art in this map. I don't think it's absolutely necessary and it makes the map lag a lot more than it needs to.

Haydie a dit :

@7840384 - The map proves to be constantly way to hard for the survivors- as the majority of the time no one survives. Even if there is only one sham due to the fact one is afk'ing, the entire room is still wiped out. I play survivor near enough 24/7 7days a week and from all my experiences with this map it's always ended up with everyone dying. I believe the map could be slightly edited and submitted for the P10 rotation as it would suit the rotation alot better than it currently does for P24.

Jasseh a dit :

@391738 - P10 - The shaman is heavily disadvantaged in this map. Mice will continuously run up the ramp, which the shaman will have to defend in order to not be hugged. This makes it near impossible to properly kill the mice at the spawn as they can just run up the ramp the second the shaman starts aiming for them. Overall this map doesn't feel balanced and can be annoying for the shaman.

@7848631 - P10 - The leftmost ice ground has no collision with mice, thus you can wj the wood it's supposed to cover.

@6631961 - P10 - The bottom right ground has hidden ice on the right side which sometimes blocks you from wj'ing the wood.

I think these survivor reports were missed and lost in the thread.

@7682811 - P10 - The top right ground has hidden ice on the bottom right side which blocks you from wj'ing the wood.

Sushids - @1454317 - P7 - the hole can be easily blocked by one mouse with a few consumables, effectively wasting everybody's time.
inb4 trolling is part of the game

@411258 - Why isn't it P4?

@2187844 - P7: the map has no ceiling and the rest of it becomes useless

@4796116 - p5 the left has more advantage

Star#8558 - @216 - P4 Colición de ratones, deberían revisarlo, mueren mas del 90% de jugadores al iniciar la partida. Es un mapa nuevo en Vanilla

Same map, different categories, different authors

P13 - @178297
Too short and easy

@119242 - mass death

@421885 - What's the point of vanishing everything after 33 seconds?

@5011670 - P4

Shaman is in a cage with no cheese and hole.

Additionally, horizontal grounds are dynamic but you cannot move them but you can anchor objects onto it. Even if the mapmaker's purpose of making the horizontal grounds dynamic is for shamans to anchor objects onto them, it is not obvious even if there is a slight difference in the wood grounds visuals. Those who use minimalist mode would not even know the horizontal grounds are dynamic as they cannot see the visuals of the grounds.

+Guai a dit :

@7701556 * #11
mass 0=auto is broking here, https://prnt.sc/26exjx5

Tricky problem to fix, it'd require moving the grounds in the area and even then it's not guaranteed to fix the problem. Tested the map three times and only once did anyone spawn a consumable, but they didn't successfully block any part of the map. We'll keep an eye on the map if there are further reports or complaints about this but for now with how it's rare that mice successfully abuse consumables. Keeping as it is.

+Guai a dit :

@5779970 * #24
pretty easy for two shams, i'd appreciate it if u could check it again

It is on the easier side of P24 maps but it isn't so unbalanced that it's a problem. Out of three tests only in one did the shamans manage to clear the room. Keeping as it is.

Zeus a dit :

@3629261 - P17 : impossible to slide on the ice only few mice can do it

If a few mice can do it then it isn't impossible. It's perfectly fine for there to be a few really hard racing maps in rotation. Keeping as it is.

Zeus a dit :

@3785774 - P4 : Must be a P7 because the treadmill is just for bouncing. There is no mechanism

I can agree this isn't an ideal example of a P6 map and it could just as well be a P7 map however with the lack of good mech maps we have no other choice but to accept some filler maps like this. Being P6 also has the benefit of the shaman helping mice that struggle with completing this map, which is a bonus. Keeping as it is.

Zeus a dit :

@6996225 - P7 : Must be a P6

Map will be discussed.

Merijn a dit :

P9 - @331800 : I don't know if this can be considered a reason to remove maps, but I think it should be something to watch out for in game maps: Very old maps that had their routes and obstacles unusable due to shaman skills. Note that this map if the shaman has a large cheese skill active, the player will not be able to get through without taking the cheese and entering the lair on his own, which was the right thing to do.

True, and it's something we watch out for however in this case as it's a P9 map the shaman can assist the mice in solving the map in the event it's not possible to solo by the mice so it is okay for it to stay. Keeping as it is.

Unknown a dit :

@499472 - The gameplay is very short, in just 7 seconds it is possible to complete the map. I suggest putting double spawn, one in each hole and changing from p6 to p7.

Short gameplay indeed but P6 lacks maps so this is fine as a filler map for P6 (it's also one of the truly mechanical filler maps in rotation). Keeping as it is.

Jasseh a dit :

@7770300 - P10 - Suggestion to remove the art in this map. I don't think it's absolutely necessary and it makes the map lag a lot more than it needs to.

The art is very minimalist and is only a few extra lines of code so it shouldn't cause any noticeable impact on performance for players. The art serves to remind newer players to utilize the cloud grounds as well as the danger of acid. Keeping it as it is.

Haydie a dit :

@7840384 - The map proves to be constantly way to hard for the survivors- as the majority of the time no one survives. Even if there is only one sham due to the fact one is afk'ing, the entire room is still wiped out. I play survivor near enough 24/7 7days a week and from all my experiences with this map it's always ended up with everyone dying. I believe the map could be slightly edited and submitted for the P10 rotation as it would suit the rotation alot better than it currently does for P24.

Map will be discussed.

Jasseh a dit :

@391738 - P10 - The shaman is heavily disadvantaged in this map. Mice will continuously run up the ramp, which the shaman will have to defend in order to not be hugged. This makes it near impossible to properly kill the mice at the spawn as they can just run up the ramp the second the shaman starts aiming for them. Overall this map doesn't feel balanced and can be annoying for the shaman.

Map currently in discussion.

Jasseh a dit :

@7848631 - P10 - The leftmost ice ground has no collision with mice, thus you can wj the wood it's supposed to cover.

Fixed.

Jasseh a dit :

@6631961 - P10 - The bottom right ground has hidden ice on the right side which sometimes blocks you from wj'ing the wood.

Fixed.

Jasseh a dit :

@7682811 - P10 - The top right ground has hidden ice on the bottom right side which blocks you from wj'ing the wood.

Fixed.

Virtini a dit :

Sushids - @1454317 - P7 - the hole can be easily blocked by one mouse with a few consumables, effectively wasting everybody's time.
inb4 trolling is part of the game

Fixed.

Poteerfotter a dit :

@411258 - Why isn't it P4?

Most likely was added as a filler for P9 since the category barely has enough maps to meet the criteria of 1000 maps. P9 is limited to a specific type of maps, so there isn't anything wrong with this being in P9 although it could also work as a P4 map. Keeping as it is.

Qadori a dit :

@2187844 - P7: the map has no ceiling and the rest of it becomes useless

Most if not all of the mice tend to use the intended path so this offscreen shortcut isn't problematic. It's a neat little easter egg for the more experienced players that recognise the map. If a large number of mice often times use the offscreen shortcut then I'd consider it problematic but as it is it's fine. Keeping as it is.

Qadori a dit :

@4796116 - p5 the left has more advantage

Unfortunately trying to address this issue would require drastic changes to the map and cannot be guaranteed to achieve a balanced path for both sides (difficulty-wise and time-wise). So I do not feel it's worth trying to fix, especially since the focal point is the art anyway. Keeping as it is.

Formicelg a dit :

Star#8558 - @216 - P4 Colición de ratones, deberían revisarlo, mueren mas del 90% de jugadores al iniciar la partida. Es un mapa nuevo en Vanilla

Unfortunately little can really be done about this without intrusive edits like invisible walls or despawning grounds which I do not feel is the right way of going about it. This tends to be an common problem with collision maps in general. Keeping as it is.

Zetdey a dit :

Same map, different categories, different authors

Maps will be discussed.

Unknown a dit :

@119242 - mass death

We are well aware of some P7 maps being mass death but they play really quickly and the maps are quite fun to be among the minority to complete them. Keeping it as it is.

Mckeydown a dit :

@421885 - What's the point of vanishing everything after 33 seconds?

I imagine it's to prevent people wasting 2 mins of everyone's time by sitting around on the map. Gameplay-wise it's fine, it's a bit unnecessary but given it's a P7 map there's no shaman losing out on saves or anything and it's enough time for mice to complete this map. Keeping as it is.

Frostedcookie a dit :

@5011670 - P4

Shaman is in a cage with no cheese and hole.

Additionally, horizontal grounds are dynamic but you cannot move them but you can anchor objects onto it. Even if the mapmaker's purpose of making the horizontal grounds dynamic is for shamans to anchor objects onto them, it is not obvious even if there is a slight difference in the wood grounds visuals. Those who use minimalist mode would not even know the horizontal grounds are dynamic as they cannot see the visuals of the grounds.

Added cheese and hole for shaman. Map is otherwise fine. Fixed

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Zeus a dit :

@2860683 - P13 : can end the map in several ways, especially at the beginning and it's bad as P13

Will be reviewed by a bootcamp mapcrew.

Refused a dit :

P13 - @178297
Too short and easy

Will be reviewed by a bootcamp mapcrew.