@5517891 - I disagree with this map as bootcamp. On 6 november this map became P3.
Lately only original maps are accepted and this map is in my opinion not original.
I hope to get an explanation if you disagree with me.

@6296348 - P13

Three very annoying parts and a major shortcut.

The first one is at the circle lava. The bottom part of the circle lava sometimes gives you a stronger fall that you can't avoid.
Trying to move slower on the upper of it is also of no use as it still kills you.

The second one is the lava before the platform with a checkpoint paw. Unintended teleport is very easy to happen to you when trying to slip off it slowly.

The third one is the lava wall to climb up with cheese. Very annoying, rarely get a grip and could not understand why another way to climb up is suddenly needed to do.

The shortcut is from the 45° lava to the ending obstacles. By touching the top of it you can skip the lavawall part.

@834964 not art .-.
@3049389 why chaman?
@772557 p9?
@2376836 lag map !


YOU win?
what?chs?first??...

Ninguem - @251052
I understand that there's a good concept in this map but in all the 5 times I've seen this map played, it's either been jammed by space boxes or cannons and became incompletable.

@969442 - Piso madeira fake. O piso madeira tem restituição, e ninguém da sala sabia. E como ninguém sabendo todos tentaram Wall Jump. Mesmo sendo um mapa antigo, é desalinhado.

@969442 - the art isn't good and fake wood ground,bad gameplay

@1043457

This isn't art. I don't understand why this one is P5'ed?

@263565-lag and ugly

@2722183 - never seen someone using divine complete the map successfully. after a while, it just doesn't become fun with your builds bouncing away

@2115470 - Not can to climb on the chick's head without the shaman

@6815542 copy @5724424

@6924913 - The originality is missing, some persons told me that a bootcamp map should be original and this map is just so common. Every part of this map is just a copy of a real bootcamp. I hope you have good reasons to make this map P13.

Mousechris a dit :

@2458923 - P5

THE SHEER LACK OF GAMEPLAY TO ART IN THIS IS DISGUSTING OMG

Shame on all of you for perming this, the art is bad for old school color ground maps, the gameplay isn't even wj over art gameplay, it's just climb over a slight hill, A SLIGHT GOD DAMN HILL.

There is absolutely no excuse for this map. Shame, SHAME. It shouldn't matter if this map is just filler, there are certain standards maps need to meet to even make filler, and this meets NONE. It isn't cute, it isn't funny, it isn't fun to play, it isn't beautiful, it's stagnant art, it's outlining is terrible, it's base ground completely ignores physics (it floats above the bottom of the map) which makes the map look weirder, it has no replay value.

Like what the hell??? I don't care if this is filler, this has no place in P5, there isn't even anything good to say about it.

This map was from Fat Animals thread, maybe someone forgot to remove it. Map had it's time and I agree on you that gameplay isn't very appealing. Will see what the others think. Thanks for reporting.

fulist a dit :

@2251406 - The ground doesn't collide with shaman objects

It was just a little issue. Edited and fixed, thank you!

wersacho a dit :

@3156569 - bad

The map is from one of the racing map groups, so it'll be permed when the group's time comes. Nothing wrong with the map. It currently doesn't play in rooms since the map is P42, but judging it by it's gameplay, it's still fine enough for rotation as P17 (racing). The map plays well, it's a classic racing map and there's no reason to deperm it. Because you think a map is bad, doesn't mean it is bad for everyone.

Pathuis a dit :

@5517891 - I disagree with this map as bootcamp. On 6 november this map became P3.
Lately only original maps are accepted and this map is in my opinion not original.
I hope to get an explanation if you disagree with me.

P3 isn't just for original maps. Maps that are considered "fun to play" are also placed in p3, even if they don't have many original features.
What is "fun to play" is pretty subjective, and we understand people can think differently about what is fun.
Unfortunately it is not possible to meet everyone's expectations in this case, but we try to be as fair as possible.

Ykr a dit :

@6296348 - P13

Three very annoying parts and a major shortcut.

The first one is at the circle lava. The bottom part of the circle lava sometimes gives you a stronger fall that you can't avoid.
Trying to move slower on the upper of it is also of no use as it still kills you.

The second one is the lava before the platform with a checkpoint paw. Unintended teleport is very easy to happen to you when trying to slip off it slowly.

The third one is the lava wall to climb up with cheese. Very annoying, rarely get a grip and could not understand why another way to climb up is suddenly needed to do.

The shortcut is from the 45° lava to the ending obstacles. By touching the top of it you can skip the lavawall part.

Will discuss this with the team.

clackprooo a dit :

@834964 not art .-.
@3049389 why chaman?
@772557 p9?
@2376836 lag map !

Spoiler

http://image.prntscr.com/image/88efe68a867044daa6a009db1a5fde05.png

YOU win?
what?chs?first??...

@834964 - It's an art, not in the best quality with a good gameplay, but since it's P1, it's fine. You've reported it in the wrong thread. There is a thread to report P0/P1 maps. You can find it here.
@3049389 - The map fits better as P6 (mechanism) rather than P7 (no shaman). As P6, once it plays in a room, there will be a shaman to help out mice when they need. Sometimes newer mice can't complete it by themselves, then the shaman's help is fully needed. Map will remain as it is, there's nothing wrong to take in consideration.
@772557 - It's a classic P9 map that has been permed a long time ago. The map is P9 because it isn't suitable in any other category, but plays well. Again, there is nothing wrong with the map you reported. And to finish, I would like to mention that the shaman is very useful since newer players doesn't know how to deal with water as well.
@2376836 - It's fine. Doesn't lag to me, check if it's your PC or internet.

blimpmaster a dit :

Ninguem - @251052
I understand that there's a good concept in this map but in all the 5 times I've seen this map played, it's either been jammed by space boxes or cannons and became incompletable.

It's not impossible. You just have to figure it out and use the appropriate shaman objects to solve the map. This map requires thinking to so solve the pluzze, which is kind of interesting, accompanied with the simplicity it has. Most of the shamans can obviously complete it as well, maybe newbies might have troubles to figure it out, but it's nothing but common. It requires time so they can understand the concept and do it in the right way.

v1n1returns a dit :

@969442 - Piso madeira fake. O piso madeira tem restituição, e ninguém da sala sabia. E como ninguém sabendo todos tentaram Wall Jump. Mesmo sendo um mapa antigo, é desalinhado.

Pisos fakes nem sempre são sinônimos de problemas. Eu entendo sua frustração com o piso que deveria ser um trampolim, mas isso não é um grande problema na jogabilidade do mapa, é até que divertido. Além do mais, este mapa é temporário, será deperm no final deste mês. Não há razão para discutir algo tal que superficial com o resto da equipe.

okpatinhos a dit :

@969442 - the art isn't good and fake wood ground,bad gameplay

Leia o meu comentário acima ^^

wersacho a dit :

@1043457

This isn't art. I don't understand why this one is P5'ed?

It's an art yes. Just because it isn't well detailed doesn't mean it isn't art, Art comes in any forms and simple art is okay. This map is a temporary perm, will be depermed in the end of the month. Don't worry too much.

pudimcb a dit :

@263565-lag and ugly

It's fine. Nothing wrong with the map, even having a messy art, it's still fine enough to play in rotation. The map has a different gameplay (might be mass-deathy but it's still fun, after some public tests that's what I noticed). Map will remain as it is.

Suprodo a dit :

@2722183 - never seen someone using divine complete the map successfully. after a while, it just doesn't become fun with your builds bouncing away

The shaman category already lacks in having some challenging maps in rotation. Most of them are simple and easily done with a few planks and creativity. This one, in my opinion is fine to stay, mostly because it has a trampoline ground that provides a different thinking and method to build. Might be very hard in divine, yes, but it isn't a reason to deperm a map. It's from the shaman decision use or not the divine mode.

okpatinhos a dit :

@2115470 - Not can to climb on the chick's head without the shaman

Você não precisa escalar a cabeça da galinha, basta passar por baixo dela! Preste mais atenção na hora de reportar um mapa.

sopokemon a dit :

@6815542 copy @5724424

We'll look into this.

Pathuis a dit :

@6924913 - The originality is missing, some persons told me that a bootcamp map should be original and this map is just so common. Every part of this map is just a copy of a real bootcamp. I hope you have good reasons to make this map P13.

 
Originality isn't a key requirement for maps in P13, rather these maps are usually found in P3.
This map is also not a copy map. You're taking the word original too literally in this case. "Common" maps (maps that have common obstacles like cornerjumps, turnarounds etc.) can be good bootcamp maps if they use these obstacles in a combination we have not seen before.

Sorry.

wersacho a dit :

@1043457

This isn't art. I don't understand why this one is P5'ed?

Space Invaders, one of the most iconic and recognizable video games of all time:

removed!

@3987360 - the boosters having no indication of direction confused a lot of mice
@126092 - I want to suggest this for P9 because there really is no building needed in this map as P4