Maxxzinnn a dit :

Walljump made the game better, but flying with wings made things too easy for the shaman

It might have been op, but even if it took a much higher level to get the wings that could fly it would be better in my opinion. The single shaman was the only one who got to use the wings, and I don't think it made shamming much easier. It wasnt like you could fly all the mice to the cheese and back.

Rabidglitchv a dit :

It might have been op, but even if it took a much higher level to get the wings that could fly it would be better in my opinion. The single shaman was the only one who got to use the wings, and I don't think it made shamming much easier. It wasnt like you could fly all the mice to the cheese and back.

You kind of could with the apple/teleportation. But did anyone get high enough level before the nerf?

Eliotn a dit :

You kind of could with the apple/teleportation. But did anyone get high enough level before the nerf?

doubt it

It may not have made shamming that much easier for those who didn't know how to use it, but it did make getting around easier which rendered a few skills useless. Why would I want to use rocket, self teleport, and projection if I can just fly up, over, and around any ground at will?

The only time projection and self-teleport would come useful is if you were trapped in a cage/your own build, which made wings waaaay to over powered. I actually see myself using all my skills now even though I never really abused the wings.

You can still glide around the map and everything, you just have to use ALL your skills more wisely now to get around the whole map as it should have been in the first place.

To be blunt. If you don't like the wings, redistribute your points and stop complaining. The wings most likely aren't going to fly again because it was a /bug/.

Shadowwinter a dit :

It may not have made shamming that much easier for those who didn't know how to use it, but it did make getting around easier which rendered a few skills useless. Why would I want to use rocket, self teleport, and projection if I can just fly up, over, and around any ground at will?

The only time projection and self-teleport would come useful is if you were trapped in a cage/your own build, which made wings waaaay to over powered. I actually see myself using all my skills now even though I never really abused the wings.

You can still glide around the map and everything, you just have to use ALL your skills more wisely now to get around the whole map as it should have been in the first place.

To be blunt. If you don't like the wings, redistribute your points and stop complaining. The wings most likely aren't going to fly again because it was a /bug/.

It really took forever to fly up anyway, the rocket was still powerful. I'm not trying to complain, so I'll stop now, but I still think there should be a game mode where you can actually still fly. Flying was the greatest thing ever in my opinion.

I'm not too sure, but there might be a module game that allows flight. I would try checking a few of those or ask around about it. ^^

Should probably get back on topic now.

Anyone still looking for someone to come farm with them? I am level 39

Jaackster a dit :

Anyone still looking for someone to come farm with them? I am level 39

You online at the moment?

I think the update made being shaman way too easy. I wish they would get rid of it all.

i dont under stand the abiltys theres to miny and its confuseing might quit transformice just cuase of how confuseing it is

Rabidglitchv a dit :

walljumping wasn't intended either, but the game would be a lot worse without it.

People are saying this a lot. But Wall-Jumping isn't anywhere near as game breaking as flying. Did you complain about not being able to fly before this update was even in mind? I don't think so, you reported it to a moderator as soon as you saw it. Sure, it's only when your shaman, but this is a skill you had for 5 days, not something they took out of the game after a few years.
If they took out walljumping, along with flying, the entire game would have no competitive edge. It would be a complete and total ping war. Who can buy the fastest connection, and what ISP's are available for you. Besides, the Wind Master skill tree has Rocket Scientist, Teleportation, and Gliding. What more is there to want? The ability to jump up multiple times? Seems a bit out-weighed by the already overpowering abilities of the tree.
E// Also, 6/10 shamans had a bridge totem, and the ability to fly and place it at the center of a map to solve the entire map. Which was very game-breaking. Maybe the wings being nerfed will get the community about more diversified, and even out the skill tree selection. Maybe a few more people will stop going into Wind Master immediatley, and choose Spiritual Guide, or Mechanician.

Dracoleaf a dit :

I've been starting to use anti-spirit better now \o/

Yea, given some practice, it's a lot more useful than the original spirit. It effects mice from a further range, and effects them less if they're already close. Great for pulling up a random selection at once.

Hatoncat a dit :

People are saying this a lot. But Wall-Jumping isn't anywhere near as game breaking as flying. Did you complain about not being able to fly before this update was even in mind? I don't think so, you reported it to a moderator as soon as you saw it. Sure, it's only when your shaman, but this is a skill you had for 5 days, not something they took out of the game after a few years.
If they took out walljumping, along with flying, the entire game would have no competitive edge. It would be a complete and total ping war. Who can buy the fastest connection, and what ISP's are available for you. Besides, the Wind Master skill tree has Rocket Scientist, Teleportation, and Gliding. What more is there to want? The ability to jump up multiple times? Seems a bit out-weighed by the already overpowering abilities of the tree.
E// Also, 6/10 shamans had a bridge totem, and the ability to fly and place it at the center of a map to solve the entire map. Which was very game-breaking. Maybe the wings being nerfed will get the community about more diversified, and even out the skill tree selection. Maybe a few more people will stop going into Wind Master immediatley, and choose Spiritual Guide, or Mechanician.


Yea, given some practice, it's a lot more useful than the original spirit. It effects mice from a further range, and effects them less if they're already close. Great for pulling up a random selection at once.

wall jumping is gamebreaking...
it basically meant you could travel places that others couldnt,

What TFM now needs is another form of vanilla maps, without skill trees. While I enjoy new mechanics, I can see, that some people don't like it as much as I do.

Paperonaruto a dit :

wall jumping is gamebreaking...
it basically meant you could travel places that others couldnt,

Wall-Jumping isn't game-breaking because anyone can do it, and the only time you can actually wall-jump something is if the ground has enough friction to do so. It wasn't anywhere near as game-breaking as flying was.

Flying you had the ability to go anywhere no matter what, nothing could really stop you. You still can, if people would open their eyes for once and use some of the other skills as intended.

Shadowwinter a dit :

Wall-Jumping isn't game-breaking because anyone can do it, and the only time you can actually wall-jump something is if the ground has enough friction to do so. It wasn't anywhere near as game-breaking as flying was.

Flying you had the ability to go anywhere no matter what, nothing could really stop you. You still can, if people would open their eyes for once and use some of the other skills as intended.

it was gamebreaking.

ouo imagine in the past when not everyone could?

technically anyone could fly too.

Back in the day everyone could still learn how to. Flying was only limited to shaman and back in the day and still is considered a hack. Flying was a bug.

Shadowwinter a dit :

Back in the day everyone could still learn how to. Flying was only limited to shaman and back in the day and still is considered a hack. Flying was a bug.

btw it is possible at level 100 to get all three last skills.

so it is not.

ouo

Paperonaruto a dit :

btw it is possible at level 100 to get all three last skills.

so it is not.

ouo

Only the shaman can fly, and therefore only one person can do it at once. That's not everyone being able to.

Paperonaruto a dit :

btw it is possible at level 100 to get all three last skills.

so it is not.

ouo

Not sure what you're trying to say here. Flying was a bug, I'm pretty sure that's why it was fixed.