True, the meep combination is super annoying, luckily not everyone use it. It's annoying alongside with people who use boxes and planks, especially if the boxes are the see-through ones with the same color as the background.

What I hate the most with survivor is that you share skills on dual shaman maps, I always end up with someone who uses friction and/or bubbles, absolutely hate it.

As a regular in survivor rooms i can relate to your opinions. Most of the skills are harmless in survivor, however other ones, including the ones mentioned above already, offer the shaman too much of an unfair advantage in comparison to the mice.
Not only does it reduce the predictability of the shaman for mice, which makes it harder for mice to survive, but also makes the game mode less fun for mice. Some skills definitely should get removed in survivor.

Watch the thread to be locked because more than 60% of players (70? :D) won't ever agree that skills should be removed. Why?

Most players in survivor are people interested mainly in vanilla and bootcamp but they suddenly would like to feel more action or farm coins to get extra cheese. I always wondered what's the point in dying every single round to get 3 coins after your sham turn, but alright, it's not the case.

The fact is they are the majority. How many lvl1 players do you meet there per day? Maybe two? Four?

It's easy, fast and comfortable for them to hug, meep, box, do whatever else to get ... +1 cheese. Plus, no skills > no players > R. I. P. module.
So good luck I guess!

But I'd support anyway.

Nazaine a dit :

Watch the thread to be locked because more than 60% of players (70? :D) won't ever agree that skills should be removed. Why?

Most players in survivor are people interested mainly in vanilla and bootcamp but they suddenly would like to feel more action or farm coins to get extra cheese. I always wondered what's the point in dying every single round to get 3 coins after your sham turn, but alright, it's not the case.

The fact is they are the majority. How many lvl1 players do you meet there per day? Maybe two? Four?

It's easy, fast and comfortable for them to hug, meep, box, do whatever else to get ... +1 cheese. Plus, no skills > no players > R. I. P. module.
So good luck I guess!

But I'd support anyway.

You can't really assume that majority of people in survivor mainly plays in vanilla and bootcamp. If you regularly join the same survivor room for a certain amount of time you'll notice that is pretty much always the same people playing, I know people who never play anything but survivor.
A lot of these people who play survivor don't actually have very much gathered cheese, nonetheless a lot of bootcamps.

I'm trash at survivor, But i still enjoy it!

What i would like to add to Bemmh, is that i doubt that having no skills or a removal in certain skills in survivor will reduce the amount of players in survivor. Do note that survivor rooms were active before skills, hotkeys and meep got implemented in survivor. And as a player from 2012 i can tell that survivor was just as active as it is nowadays.

Thewtfjason a dit :

What i would like to add to Bemmh, is that i doubt that having no skills or a removal in certain skills in survivor will reduce the amount of players in survivor. Do note that survivor rooms were active before skills, hotkeys and meep got implemented in survivor. And as a player from 2012 i can tell that survivor was just as active as it is nowadays.

I personally don't think we should remove skills overall or certain skills either for that matter, there's really no use of it. Even though certain skills can be obnoxious from one player to another, I don't see a valid reason to remove them. And yes, I agree with you that survivor is just as active now as it used to be.

Bemmh a dit :

A lot of these people who play survivor don't actually have very much gathered cheese

In less than 6 month I gathered around 20k cheese by playing Survivor Only, I got +1cheese every time I survived and if sham didn't die, plus the sc exchange /which doesn't count on the profile though/, so here I don't agree with you. If you play survivor a lot and it's the only game mode you enjoy the number of cheese on your profile will be huge.
Even today when I also come to bootcamp from time to time, survivor is the only way for me to get cheese, literally.

What I think is that survivor was active too back in 2012 only because players didn't have any alternative. Imagine baffbotffa nowadays - people played it because it was all fun and brand-new for a while but some didn't like the idea of the mini-games during the rounds, so there is goes again: some would play DM while others would prefer the dead module.
Although almost everytime I ask a player ''Why don't you play as lvl1?'' the answer is pretty much the same: "I can't play without skills, I tried." Others simply say they're here for the coins.

Nazaine a dit :

Bemmh a dit :VoirMasquer

A lot of these people who play survivor don't actually have very much gathered cheese

In less than 6 month I gathered around 20k cheese by playing Survivor Only, I got +1cheese every time I survived and if sham didn't die, plus the sc exchange /which doesn't count on the profile though/, so here I don't agree with you. If you play survivor a lot and it's the only game mode you enjoy the number of cheese on your profile will be huge.
Even today when I also come to bootcamp from time to time, survivor is the only way for me to get cheese, literally.

What I think is that survivor was active too back in 2012 only because players didn't have any alternative. Imagine baffbotffa nowadays - people played it because it was all fun and brand-new for a while but some didn't like the idea of the mini-games during the rounds, so there is goes again: some would play DM while others would prefer the dead module.
Although almost everytime I ask a player ''Why don't you play as lvl1?'' the answer is pretty much the same: "I can't play without skills, I tried." Others simply say they're here for the coins.

I never said people don't get a lot of cheese from the survivor coins, if you read what I said properly, I clearly said ''Gathered cheese'' which refers to the statistics on the profile. Just because you play survivor a lot it doesn't necessarily mean you're super good at it, I have friends that absolutely love playing survivor but end up dying pretty much every single round, playing survivor doesn't mean you're guaranteed to have a lot of gathered cheese on your profile. In fact, I've been playing survivor for as long as I can remember and most of my cheese isn't from survivor and that's not because I always die or because I ''mainly play vanilla and bootcamp''.

Yes, a lot of players can't play without skills simply because they've gotten used to them and some don't ever bother to try and they aren't obligated to. Some people play as level 1 because they are old players and prefer the old school way of playing, some do it because it's more challenging or simply because they think it's fun. I really don't see how the level of a player makes any difference in this conversation since we were talking about cheese.