the shaman bubbles talent breaks up the flow of any map, makes inpatient mice die, and interfere with the shaman's build.
Sure, sometimes those are helpful for some mice to complete the map, but there are far more cases where they do more harm than good.

i suggest the bubbles to be replaced with, anything else really. The bubbles could remain, but not flow upwards. If a mice die, the bubble stays at the bottom of the map just like the electric field from another talent tree does.

/nosupport

I'm completely indifferent to this. I hate how bubbles disrupt the gameplay, but I think they're really good when shaman does not finish building and dies.

Floraflowerr said:

Just don't have the skill if you don't like them.
If you see a shaman using them, then just don't get on a bubble so you don't die.
/no support

I see where OP is coming from. The complaint is not really about using those bubbles, but their effect on the gameplay in general. Usually many rush to those bubbles and most of the room dies, then the shaman gives up on building and decides to end the round without saving anyone. Also, bubbles are crucial for getting a first, but using them is a huge risk that many choose to take.

you could say the same thing about so many other skills, it's really not going to change much whether or not bubbles are a thing. just look at springs or big planks, they change things an extreme amount with no effort required. you can change a map that normally requires a minute to complete into something that can be done in less than 15 seconds

Rocha said:

you could say the same thing about so many other skills, it's really not going to change much whether or not bubbles are a thing. just look at springs or big planks, they change things an extreme amount with no effort required. you can change a map that normally requires a minute to complete into something that can be done in less than 15 seconds

When the shaman uses springs or big planks, it's he or she who decided where to place them. But bubbles are placed where mice fall off the map. Bubbles may then appear where they should not belong, interfering with the shaman's building and leading to a chaotic gameplay.

Springs and big planks still suck because they require less skills to use, but they do not suck for the same reason bubbles suck.

Isn't it shaman's own fault if they use that skill and lose saves?

/no support

Cyanny said:

Rocha said:SeeHide

you could say the same thing about so many other skills, it's really not going to change much whether or not bubbles are a thing. just look at springs or big planks, they change things an extreme amount with no effort required. you can change a map that normally requires a minute to complete into something that can be done in less than 15 seconds

When the shaman uses springs or big planks, it's he or she who decided where to place them. But bubbles are placed where mice fall off the map. Bubbles may then appear where they should not belong, interfering with the shaman's building and leading to a chaotic gameplay.

Springs and big planks still suck because they require less skills to use, but they do not suck for the same reason bubbles suck.

they are still the shaman's choice to have. it takes no time to find out what the downsides of bubbles are so I think anyone who has them probably wants to have them. they know it will cause problems but thats fun to some people

Rocha said:

Cyanny said:SeeHide

Rocha said:SeeHide

you could say the same thing about so many other skills, it's really not going to change much whether or not bubbles are a thing. just look at springs or big planks, they change things an extreme amount with no effort required. you can change a map that normally requires a minute to complete into something that can be done in less than 15 seconds

When the shaman uses springs or big planks, it's he or she who decided where to place them. But bubbles are placed where mice fall off the map. Bubbles may then appear where they should not belong, interfering with the shaman's building and leading to a chaotic gameplay.

Springs and big planks still suck because they require less skills to use, but they do not suck for the same reason bubbles suck.

they are still the shaman's choice to have. it takes no time to find out what the downsides of bubbles are so I think anyone who has them probably wants to have them. they know it will cause problems but thats fun to some people

That makes sense. I agree with your last point.

There is no point in saying it's the shamans fault in getting bubbles, because it annoys the mice as well when they're forced to risk their life to use them to get first. It's unwanted rng.