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Suggestion to unban permanently banned players, without affecting the game too much.
Darksidders
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  • Introduction
  • New Transformice
  • Filters
  • Transition
  • Order
  • My Opinion
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Introduction



I want to clarify that my English is not very good, excuse me if you see a spelling mistake.

And I didn't include images, sorry for presenting this without anything illustrative, you will have to use your imagination, I really didn't know what images to include


This is not clickbait, I'm not kidding, I'm serious.

(I am willing to fight for what I believe is right, I think it's about time someone did).

I know this is going to cause controversy, maybe many or most will disagree, many have wanted this, but no one has seriously brought it up as a suggestion, so I'll do it, and I think it can work.

I will use League of Legend as an example, as Riot gave the opportunity to some NA players to unlock their permabanned accounts for an "experiment" but I don't really know what happened with that, I think it failed.
What I want to do, or want to be done, is much better than that. So I thought of a way to make it possible, to unban them without affecting the game too much, transformice is different from league of legends, that's obvious, so it won't be the same, I have taken measures and thought about all the risks and tried to decrease them as much as possible.

I know that for transformice it is not a priority to unban players, so this is an experimental suggestion,that's also new, isn't it?

I think of the reasons why there are no permanent unbanning of players is for these reasons:
1. It would directly affect the game
2. Maybe it would ruin what they have been building for years.

But if I told you that I believe there is a way, (a possibility) to unban banned players permanently without affecting the game, and without ruining what they have been building for all these years.
would you believe me?

Maybe you think I'm crazy, or that it's something unnecessary, maybe you already have or are thinking of reasons to disagree with me, I recommend you read my suggestion and then think about it again.

This suggestion is subject to the rules and guidelines for suggestions, as well as the forum rules and guidelines..
It is not an appeal or a complaint, nor is it a suggestion against the rules of the game.

Without anything else to say here it begins

First part, I give an idea of what can be done.
Second part: I explain the filters
Third part: the transition
Fifth part: the order




Create new Transformice



Create another transformice, like transformice 2, which would be a copy of the official transformice where only permanently banned players can join without the option to create an account, or guest account. They just have to put their nick and password. (they will remain banned in the official transformice)




Features of Transformice 2



  • In the rooms would not count the stats, nor could they use things from the inventory, they could only play for playing (that would be the punishment: play without winning, play for playing)(probably they would play in module, like #batata or #unotfm)(survivor or racing to compete).
    as the stats will not count in normal room or vanilla, I guess they will only be chaman trolls, so I recommend also disable, normal room, and vanilla, or maybe not

  • The profile would be frozen, it would not increase or change anything, but they would have access to their accounts.

  • Maybe if they can do the events, and get some titles.(just maybe).

  • If they can buy things from the store with strawberries (the store should be updated like in the official transformice).

  • Strawberry purchases can only be made through PayPal.

  • They will be able to have access to the friends list and tribe chat.

  • Admins and mods will have access to this server to watch, monitor, control and sanction, (I don't want it to get out of control).admins will also be able to modify the game with the latest update.

  • The server will only be active 12 hours a day, and will have chat access for 6 hours (although it can be more if you want but with 6 I think it's fine).

  • (I do not think it is necessary to create a second forum)



How will we make sure that things don't really get out of control, and how will we know that they won't break the rules in that other transformice?

First, they are not fully pardoned, they are just put on probation, it will depend on them and their behavior, to be pardoned, they will have to behave well if they want to be unbanned. also the server time should be limited to 12 hours, and the time to talk 6 hours.


I also thought about the mods

Since it is a volunteer job, I know you are not obligated to participate in this.
In league of legends there is the option to surrender:
/surrender
I have thought about including something like the option to give up, but for moderators, with the function to disconnect the server, you need an odd number to be able to vote.(in case you don't want to moderate) The server would have to be activated by the administrators (or be activated at a certain time).





Filters

To be unbanned they have to go through some filters (behaving well on this other server is not a filter, but it will still be taken into account if they have new sanctions).To be pardoned and unbanned, you must contribute with something to the game.

The first filter is to give 3 suggestions that the administrators like, the amount of suggestions you can give is unlimited. (you could increase the number of suggestions if you think there are too few)



What is the probability that the administrators will like it?

It could be as easy as the transformice tutorial, or it could be as hard as winning the lottery.


You who are reading this, how many of your suggestions have the admins liked?

Now imagine all the permanently banned players competing, and giving lots of suggestions for the game, the amount could be unlimited, but that would be determined by time.

I sincerely prefer quality over quantity, so I think it would be better to be demanding with suggestions to increase the difficulty, and to make them try harder.
For example, to avoid copying suggestions, you could put at the end of your suggestion, the source, or the inspiration for your suggestion.



How to differentiate the banned players in discord, with their suggestions?

To differentiate them from the others since they are probably not verified because the forum is needed, a second suggestion channel could be created for them, and/or they could identify themselves with their nickname and tag when making a suggestion, example

"Hi i am darksidders#0000 and this is my suggestion...."




If they pass the first filter they will pass to the second filter.

The second filter is: The money

Subscription fess

The second filter is after being unbanned, you will have to pay a monthly subscription, to have access to the official transfomice for 30 days, in case you break the rules your subscription will be cancelled (and you will return to the previous filter, or you could return to transformice 2, and to be unbanned you will have to repeat the process).
In case you don't pay, you won't have access to the game.
Payment will be made through the forum, and could also include automatic account payment, and automatic card payment.
(what can be discussed here is how much money you will have to pay monthly).

(You can include more filters, or change them if you don't like them) (I will put it on the discord server in the suggestions channel, if it has support).


(I had also thought of including a form like they use for mods, funcorps, etc. but to unban people permanently banned, just rephrase the questions, and the requirements).

For example, the ES community released the reasons why applicants have been rejected.
showing a graph, where the majority who were rejected gave a poor application.Here

If a form would be used, it would also limit the number of people to unban, it would have to be done every so often and per community. For example, a letter of apology could be included.

Requirements

-Over 15 years old
-Have a history as clean as possible in this second server.
-Be active in your community
-Good communication

Important: The filters have to be difficult so that not everyone can pass.








Transition

For the transition of an account, from this copy of transformice to the original transfomice, you only have to copy the ID of the player, so everything you have bought on one server will be transferred to the other, there will be no major changes, since your account, your profile is frozen because they do not count the statistics.

(I also thought about adding something at the beginning of the name, so that the mods can more easily identify those who return from a permanent ban, you could add a sign or something. you could add the sign less (-) , this is included in the filter 2 of the money, you could remove the sign less, until you have paid a year.)



Order

Then the order would be:

1. Creation of another transformice only for banned players, with freedoms and certain limitations in the game (they will remain banned in the official transformice)

2. After the server is ready, wait a certain amount of time, and open the postulations to unban them, create a form (like the ones they do to be part of the staf) rephrase the questions or some things, (take into consideration if he is an active player and his past sanction history, and his new sanction history).

3. Those who are selected, to be unbanned, announce them officially,(give them the banned role in discord)
and create a second suggestion channel for the banned players to give their suggestions. the rules will be the same as in the suggestion channel. with their role they will not be able to write in the suggestion channel, only in their suggestion channel.

4.The filters, the first filter, is to give 3 or more suggestions that the administrators like, the amount of suggestions you can give is unlimited. They should be picky about suggestions.The filters, the first filter of the suggestions, should set times, start time and end time. Or else too many suggestions will be accumulated.

(If it has support here, I will post it in the discord suggestion channel, and if it has enough support, it can be put in discussion, and you can add more filters if you want, or if you think there are too few).

The second filter is after being unbanned, you will have to pay a monthly subscription, to have access to the official transfomice for 30 days, in case you break the rules your subscription will be cancelled and you will return to the previous filter, or you could return to transformice 2, and to be unbanned you will have to repeat the process.

5. Transition: adding something at the beginning of the name, so that the mods can more easily identify those who return from a permanent ban, you could add a sign or something. You could add the sign less (-) , this is included in the filter 2 of the money, you could remove the sign less, until you have paid a year.

(There is another inconvenience that I did not see, and it is the case that they forget their password, so they could be unbanned from the forum and put a sign to identify them more easily in case someone breaks the rules of the forum, such as posting where it does not correspond, etc.)

I think that would be an effective unbanning.




Before I give my opinion, I want you to read this, one of the reasons why players should be unbanned is the change of mentality, obviously I have more reasons, but I will create a thread another time.

My opinion

I don't think it has occurred to anyone to give participation to permanently banned players, since they are not part of the game.
The suggestions thing I think that would make them feel part of the game in some way, and the thought that they can help with a suggestion to the game, they might like it, and maybe they can give more suggestions but in the other channel.

Do you think that after being banned permanently and going through this long and tedious process of unbanning, plus the sanction time, they will break the rules again?
I don't think so, we should wait, put them to the test and see if they have learned their lesson.

I think we all deserve a second chance,I believe that people change, although there are some who do not,I believe that every day we should try to be better, and better ourselves.
We all make mistakes, we all make mistakes, I think it's okay to make mistakes, we just have to try not to make mistakes so many times.

Permanent sanctions have been around since the beginning of the internet, on forums etc.
But is it really the best solution, has nobody ever thought about this?
I think a long ban or a permanent ban helps, I think they should not cease to exist, since you give it all for lost and helps you to think again, but I think you should add something more like an effective unban.

I like the idea of giving suggestions since, you contribute something to the game(or whatever), to get your account back, you have to give suggestions that the admins like, and with requirement, it's like a job, but mandatory.this would differentiate them from those who give a voluntary suggestion.
(If a company that does not have a suggestion system for its users, an unban with the first filter would be good for them, to improve and return accounts).

It would be the only way, the only way unless someone thinks of something better, if they have something like "hope" or a "second chance " to get your account back, of course they would take it, even if it is doing something mandatory. And unexpected like giving suggestions

If you think that you don't change what already works, I think you are wrong, because you don't change it, you improve it.
I am not afraid to change what is established. Drastic changes scare me, but sometimes it is necessary to get out of your comfort zone.
I believe that if this were to be done, it would mark a before and after in the history of Transformice.

Maybe I'm exaggerating if I say that if replicated by other video game companies or social networks, etc, it would mark a before and after in the history of video games, and the internet itself. But if it were not an exaggeration, I don't want you to deny yourselves the possibility of changing the world.
You could be part of this, the players, the admins, the mods, the banned players too, etc, I want you to feel important in case you are part of the history.
My suggestion can serve as a base, as a foundation, to form something bigger.







Valentina
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its totally impossible to happen cuz of lots of reasons:

1- they have canceled transformice adventures (i personally think that they did that cuz they would spend too much money in this but im not sure abt that) so creating a new tfm will never happen again

2- most of the players who have been permabanned are hackers (it means that they only want one thing: perfect stats), freezing their profiles will surely not bring them back so this new tfm would be empty

3- the chat would be extremely toxic so the mods would have to spend too much time to moderate the new tfm

/nosupport

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Batt_mellamy
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Hi there!

Moderators are given guidelines directly from the admins that we follow closely. It is not simple to just get permanently banned, and users are generally given a lot of chances to correct their behavior. If they don't take those chances to make a change and improve, then it is likely the permaban was deserved.

If someone truly feels a permaban is not deserved, they can try to appeal, but it has to be with a very compelling argument that shows the permaban was truly unfair. A list of all EN moderators can be found here.
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