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Fewfre
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Fair enough, more of a "pesky" technique than an advanced one ^.^

The step-by-step images help, although the first one might be a little confusing since your facing the other direction than the others (doesn't make it impossible to figure out or anything of course =p). Sadly my reaction time isn't good enough to be able to do it though :( Or at least not in a useful way.
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It was really hard to get together that guide without failing. So it had to be done on separate maps.
Hopefully it does clear up the method a little more and how to fire. The video guide should also help.
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with no doubt advance is actually something more complicated than the basics. And yes i said that they were pretty advance to "new" players. And i link his channel only because i wanted to T-T
Fewfre
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holistergo a dit :
with no doubt advance is actually something more complicated than the basics. And yes i said that they were pretty advance to "new" players. And i link his channel only because i wanted to T-T

Again, no one is saying this guide isn't advanced techniques (other than Ysobadbro).

Also, please use the quote message option so it's easier to understand responses, as well as who they are directed towards :)
Redd3
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New sections [7.10], [8.13], [4.7], [1.3] added. Hopefully the second is actually more practical than the rest and teaches you how to defend yourself rather than how to fight better and fancier.

Btw fewfre I have thought a bit more about your strategy and I've decided that it doesn't really work the way you think it does because nobody is going to retreat up towards you if they've seen you from below (especially since the above vision is greater than the below vision) and it also takes too much space.

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Techtriostep
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@8.13: how do you even know if someone has low hp?
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Fewfre a dit :
holistergo a dit :
with no doubt advance is actually something more complicated than the basics. And yes i said that they were pretty advance to "new" players. And i link his channel only because i wanted to T-T

Again, no one is saying this guide isn't advanced techniques (other than Ysobadbro).

Also, please use the quote message option so it's easier to understand responses, as well as who they are directed towards :)


I wasn't talking to you specifically i was telling others such as people like ysosadbro, that you can't just simply master all of these in a flash by just looking at the guide. its just like modern art. its simply "i think i can do that"
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@Techtriostep two ways. You either know that this is the case by watching closely (for example if people are hit by your mine in the flag) or what low HP basically means is that once you start shooting someone commit to shooting that particular person unless they become terribly hard to hit or it puts you in a lot of danger.
Another way of telling this particularly in domination is if people are camping alone in a medic kit field.

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Fewfre
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Not really an advanced technique, but something I like to do to combat people tunneling is to remove their "roof" (top of the tunnel) and thus most of the protection tunneling at bottom of the map offers. This is especially useful if they are in a corner, or you do this in a spot they haven't reached yet. Often you can stay out of shooting range while doing this too, and only takes a few rounds of a famas / uzi. Even if they move to a "safe" place, this makes a whole area of the tunnel exposed (not safe to go back), can force them to move to a less dependable area than before, creates a hard-to-block entrance, and can just make a VIP make a poor choice (not moving, or fleeing the tunnels altogether with no protection [not always bad idea, but often done badly]).

Note that doing this where the VIP currently is is not advised, unless they have barricaded themselves in a corner. It may be useful to create a (small) conj ceiling above the corner before you do this, as once you destroy the "roof" where a VIP is in a corner, they often try to make a quick retreat by going up, and this can trap them for a few precious unprotected seconds.

Hope that makes sense / is helpful to someone. If you can't tell, I love tactics that involve screwing people up in the long-to-mid future, so obviously not for everyone.
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Actually fewfre a lot of these tactics are advance to new players. And a lot still have trouble mastering the penguin slideing. A lot still dont know what the heck it is.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7KbXD_UCVyo9rfXHREG16w
his channel

Holistergo a dit :
I wasn't talking to you specifically...

You said my name at the beginning of the message, so you can see why I was confused I hope :) Sorry for any confusion on my part.

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Redd3
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I decided to give the penguin slide a more formal name: The corner jump slide (CJS)

Basically Fewfre, it's just totally stripping the ceiling away on a tunnel. Rather time consuming and the enemy can easily rebuild their ceilings.

Personally, with tunnels, if I see one happening then I like to dig down and cut off the enemy from somewhere ahead of their tunnel so they can't continue it. Then our team will possess that part of the tunnel.

New section [4.8] added which is just a minor detail to improve the speed climb.

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Cheddarfist
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Solfn add the conj trick that u showed me that was awesome! :D
Redd3
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Already added, see [4.8].
I'm still waiting for the zombie update. When that happens, I will archive the tricks that no longer work and I will add new ones as I find them.
I have a feeling that they're only going to add the zombies at the same time as nekodancer comes..
Jjaakkee
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Playdead and the Invis Glitch both work the same, just that the playdead requires you to run off into the void but go invis right before. Plus you can't be getting shot at while going invis otherwise it wont work. If you stay invis for too long you also crash and disconnect. Or is that another invis glitch in your Library?
Redd3
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You don't need to be invis to do playdead. It works regardless.
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You should do the trick to conj backwards instead of forwards.
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I added a new section [4.9]. I connected this new section to the [6.5] Corner Jump Slide (Penguin) section and also the section [8.7] Skipping to the bottom of the map. It should help a lot.
Cheddarfist
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You could add in cjs (penguin) backwards. Its useless tho
Redd3
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I made a note in the cjs section.
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An Awesome, but Impractical trick.

When you put the cursor very near the gunshot, the way the bullets go is... piercing...

Sorry, but I don't know how to describe properly this trick. :/
Fewfre
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Do you mean the trick listed as 9.1? Where it shoots through blocks / people without doing any damage?

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