blueztorm a dit :

I don't see how complaining about spas users and haters will make the community any better.

Try reading our posts again as well as my thread post in regards to the weapon balancing, However in short spas makes players not think when they spam their shots. We can't have people like that. Also spas gets people easy kill but at the same time they die a lot because of this they want to keep spas the way it is so that they can get kills to look pro. Meaning they dont want updates.

You're welcome.


So i made a new account to show that kills=/=skill. the results were great, i went to es server and people told me that i was pro, they couldn't believe that i had so little kills too.
That was when a person invited me to a tribe. The person immediately gave me a really high rank, third highest.
And that was when we had the short conversation but serious to this discussion. We talked and he told me to ONLY INVITE spas and sniper users. I asked why and he responded back with how spas and sniper is pro and that the tribe needed to be filled with pro players.
Even when most of my "fame" came from the starter m4 a1, he still invited me.
This is how op and overrated weapons affect people in bad way he didn't even wait a couple days to see if i can be trusted with such a high rank!
Should be proof of what me and solfn have been insisting about balancing weapons.

iyamie a dit :

If we want updates or at least any kind of attention from our creators, we should do something so big, so crazy, so amazing that no one has done before that our creators will have to pay attention to us no matter what. I have no clue about how to do that but I know if we all work together we can up with something.

Stage a real life protest outside their office? Anyone here get money for a lot of plane tickets? =p It's a joke people. This message is for those of you who take everything literally. Yes, I'm talking to you [name]!

But other than spamming really popular let's players to play it, I'm not sure what else we could do that's "big". And even then, with Adventures / Dead Maze, not sure they have the man power to put much effort into Fort at the moment.

Pissed off because I was the only guy on the flag everytime (previous round) , with some teammates helping on their way to the firefight.

However a M60 seriously wanted to get the flag and I end up dying because I can't counterattack forever since I take damage so the M60 start lowering the %, this wouldn't happen with one more guy (like Nafil since he is better than new players) .

The team won but with a lower %, the lack of teamplay just piss me off sometimes, further damage could be avoided with just one more guy (when low on HP I just tank shots, hoping a teammate come to help) .

Then he pull out the same shit players shout at Solfn.

I used my Marksman set, M4 A1 isn't as fast as the UMP 45.

holistergo a dit :

So i made a new account to show that kills=/=skill. the results were great, i went to es server and people told me that i was pro, they couldn't believe that i had so little kills too.
That was when a person invited me to a tribe. The person immediately gave me a really high rank, third highest.
And that was when we had the short conversation but serious to this discussion. We talked and he told me to ONLY INVITE spas and sniper users. I asked why and he responded back with how spas and sniper is pro and that the tribe needed to be filled with pro players.
Even when most of my "fame" came from the starter m4 a1, he still invited me.
This is how op and overrated weapons affect people in bad way he didn't even wait a couple days to see if i can be trusted with such a high rank!
Should be proof of what me and solfn have been insisting about balancing weapons.

I got invited into a tribe with my alt at 2k kills for being pro and got the second highest rank. The minimum criteria for getting into the tribe was 10k kills.
This basically shows that tribes are encouraging players to kill a lot just to get tribe ranks and look good.
It's funny also because their other high ranks were named after spas and sniper, with spas being rated above the sniper.

solfn a dit :

holistergo a dit :VoirMasquer

So i made a new account to show that kills=/=skill. the results were great, i went to es server and people told me that i was pro, they couldn't believe that i had so little kills too.
That was when a person invited me to a tribe. The person immediately gave me a really high rank, third highest.
And that was when we had the short conversation but serious to this discussion. We talked and he told me to ONLY INVITE spas and sniper users. I asked why and he responded back with how spas and sniper is pro and that the tribe needed to be filled with pro players.
Even when most of my "fame" came from the starter m4 a1, he still invited me.
This is how op and overrated weapons affect people in bad way he didn't even wait a couple days to see if i can be trusted with such a high rank!
Should be proof of what me and solfn have been insisting about balancing weapons.

I got invited into a tribe with my alt at 2k kills for being pro and got the second highest rank. The minimum criteria for getting into the tribe was 10k kills.
This basically shows that tribes are encouraging players to kill a lot just to get tribe ranks and look good.
It's funny also because their other high ranks were named after spas and sniper, with spas being rated above the sniper.

Exactly what happen in this tribe i went to, titles were spas sniper noob, killer etc., i tried to explain how other guns were good too, its just a matter of dedication, practice, and experience. But as always they bring up the kill rate of the weapons.

Also PRO=/=PROFILE

Double post

Another image of playerbase increasing. A Whopping amount of 545 players. We need about 200+ players more

noticed us sempai!!

Fucking fix this, I'm tired of overprivileged players abusing rapid fire weapon spam and not realizing that a large portion of players are disadvantaged and call them runner/camper because they can hardly kill anything since all their rapid fire weapons are bugged to shit. It also means that rapid fire weapons are even worse off in addition to some of the weapons being really weak or really strong and that means that spas, snipers and bombers just dominate even more; and the intelligence of players is so low nowadays that abusers know that they can freely walk into mobs of people without being shot at or equipping shelter, placing a bomb and running away, getting rewarded for doing nothing intuitive.

Also, just fix conj in general. It's ruining a large portion of player's quality of gameplay without them even realizing it. Of course the people who are happy without any change in this game are the abusers and people who aren't affected by any of these bugs. The smart people want change and we want to be noticed.

My famas is so bugged that I can't even kill a player in two whole clips, watch the video below. It was my favorite gun between 2014-2015.

solfn a dit :

Fucking fix this, I'm tired of overprivileged players abusing rapid fire weapon spam and not realizing that a large portion of players are disadvantaged and call them runner/camper because they can hardly kill anything since all their rapid fire weapons are bugged to shit. It also means that rapid fire weapons are even worse off in addition to some of the weapons being really weak or really strong and that means that spas, snipers and bombers just dominate even more; and the intelligence of players is so low nowadays that abusers know that they can freely walk into mobs of people without being shot at or equipping shelter, placing a bomb and running away, getting rewarded for doing nothing intuitive.

Also, just fix conj in general. It's ruining a large portion of player's quality of gameplay without them even realizing it. Of course the people who are happy without any change in this game are the abusers and people who aren't affected by any of these bugs. The smart people want change and we want to be noticed.

My famas is so bugged that I can't even kill a player in two whole clips, watch the video below. It was my favorite gun between 2014-2015.

My Famas works finely. My ping is something arouns 200-300, but the damage is not bugged. I still don't quite understand this.

Brandonnst a dit :

solfn a dit :VoirMasquer

Fucking fix this, I'm tired of overprivileged players abusing rapid fire weapon spam and not realizing that a large portion of players are disadvantaged and call them runner/camper because they can hardly kill anything since all their rapid fire weapons are bugged to shit. It also means that rapid fire weapons are even worse off in addition to some of the weapons being really weak or really strong and that means that spas, snipers and bombers just dominate even more; and the intelligence of players is so low nowadays that abusers know that they can freely walk into mobs of people without being shot at or equipping shelter, placing a bomb and running away, getting rewarded for doing nothing intuitive.

Also, just fix conj in general. It's ruining a large portion of player's quality of gameplay without them even realizing it. Of course the people who are happy without any change in this game are the abusers and people who aren't affected by any of these bugs. The smart people want change and we want to be noticed.

My famas is so bugged that I can't even kill a player in two whole clips, watch the video below. It was my favorite gun between 2014-2015.

My Famas works finely. My ping is something arouns 200-300, but the damage is not bugged. I still don't quite understand this.

I found a person with 243 ping that had full damage as well. I don't really know what the problem is, I suspect it's the satellite we get connected to but I tried forcibly changing it and nothing happened. So it is something to do with ping and connection strength, but the link isn't clearly established. If my weapon worked fine before all the server changes to weapon rates of fire, then I want it to be possible for me to do that damage again.

I believe this would be made possible by reworking the client side of the weapon rates of fire instead of making it server controlled, so that people won't lag out so that the server doesn't realise they have fired but cancels it out anyway. The client side mechanic of the weapons should be recoded in a better, less hackable way (Hitler 1.0 hack was the reason all the weapon rates of fire became server controlled). Here is my idea for a replacement:

===RED COOLDOWN BAR===
The bar will allow a weapon to fire given that it is full, and that there is at least 1 bullet in the clip. The bar increases continuously using a script, similarly to how conj is increased continuously but given as a discrete value (we will refer to this as "the script" for now).

- The script is run by the server, and the rate of fire is left alone. If the script stops running, disconnect the player.
- If the bar is not full (empty or partially empty), the weapon cannot be fired. Works exactly the same as the red reload bar.
- If the bar is hacked to remain full, the game will immediately kick out the player if the script runs and ends earlier than expected (i.e. the bar is full sooner than coded to). It will not kick out the player if it fills more slowly than expected. (to prevent kicking out from lag)
- New mechanics can be coded around the red bar; for example, the script can stop running if the player has activated the shelter perk, so we indirectly nerf spammers and glitchers who run into blocked off areas with bombs and run away by stopping them from firing their guns.

[I will insert a gif showing off what this could be like later on when I get time, so it's a bit clearer for someone to understand]

==PSEUDOCODE==

For given weapon:
Local/Global variable x = [Pixel length of the red bar]
Function draw rectangle(xcoords,ycoords,length "x", height 2) //Draws the red bar on the screen with length set to whatever x is
Define "script" [Script could be x = x + 1, so it increases continuously] // The script will run as long as a weapon value is defined
Loop script // The script will loop once per frame/millisecond, whatever is defined

Local/Global variable C = [Some given number for the size of the bar, which we named C] // Define cooldown for a given weapon
If x < C, run script; else
MOUSE1 will fire weapon and
set x = 0 // If the bar is not filled completely, the script will run. Once x = C, the mouse can be used to fire the weapon.

Sorry solfn didnt read all that. But i can guess that You have a solution and the problem is not exactly establish.

So I found a solution to the weapon rate of fire bugs and decided to share it with a few friends. After a little more experimentation, this is what happened:



Don't do it.

E: Welp, I decided to use the French trial for the one day that it was useable for and I died from lag. Also the enemy team were basically sitting in so much conj the whole match that not even a famas would get through because they just patch up the hole instantly, and sit in the flag with 5 bombs and all spasers. So basically I used my one lifetime chance to play without bugs and wasted it on a shit spammer camper abuser enemy team. So sad.

Edit: nvm ;; Erm but why doesn't the server respond to hacks the same way