Spawn Killing |
Xtrollfoxx « Citoyen » 1399687140000
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Alright so i get on and couple rounds later i hear spart and some others like indigo argueing about it. Spart says its cheating. Cheating in a game is an unfair way to play. I say that in this case unfair should mean that no one else is able to do it. So what is your judgement on spawn killing? |
Spartttt « Citoyen » 1399687920000
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This is what I said in-game. And don't forget I also said about conjing. Xtrollfoxx, how bout' you? You think spawn-killing is right? And conjing the VIP the whole time and conjing the flag? And blocking the entrance of our hole? Conjing the VIP and never being to be able to attack the VIP with an AK47? And if that person ins't really pro and stuff, they won't know which gun to buy and turns out they bought the sniper, like me when I was a newbie and didn't know any facts. And if you say "there are always forums." Newbies don't know what the heck the forum is and which topic it is. They won't be able to know what the heck magazines are or crouch dmg. Both of them are unfair ways to kill of defend. If alot of people go to the oppenent's spawn spot and they would have to keep the other team occupied while the others stay at the flag and win. |
Cresch « Citoyen » 1399690620000
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Xtrollfoxx a dit : I'm not too sure about that, anyone can technically cheat in this case since anyone can spawn kill with the right ability - just go to the spawn point and shoot at spawning people - if that's what you're trying to say. (if not, whoopsies tehe). This type of cheating is an unfair tactic, depending on situation, can give unfair advantage to a certain player/team, rather than uber haxx0rz-type of cheating. Anyone has the potential to use this tactic, everyone is (theoretically/technically) able to do it. I wouldn't really consider something spawn killing if one has time to start and adjust to the map before being killed, such as when the opposing team is near-ish to the spawn point, but not directly interacting with the spawn point players. On the other hand, if someone starts directly shooting at barely spawned people so they keep dying when spawning, it gives an unfair advantage by giving the players an unfair start or death. That's what my opinion is. I'm kinda' lenient on spawnkilling though, most of the time spawn killers get killed quickly. It's only concerning if they keep coming back to the other team's spawn point to spawnkill. *______* |
Xtrollfoxx « Citoyen » 1399692000000
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Cresch a dit : Thank you my whole point to spart. I was trying to tell him that its not really a "cheat" and not really "unfair" as well and just annoying. |
Spartttt « Citoyen » 1399694460000
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Xtrollfoxx a dit : It is playing unfairly considering some people who WANT to play fair can't and everyone else who wants to spawn kill does it. The people who WANT to play fairly will get killed all the times at round start, and I'm one of them. I WANT to play fair and some people tend to spawn kill me and I'm usually more laggy while spawning and there is an advantage of the life points, so when I start shooting, I'm already dead... Some people have different ping and so won't allow them to spawn right ofter the 0 sec point. Which gets on my nerves. |
Jjaakkee « Citoyen » 1399724760000
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First of all, spawnkilling was fixed as far as possible at the moment. You have a good amount of time before you can actually take damage after spawning. That time allows you to recuperate your mind and tell yourself, "Hey, I'm respawned. Time to kick ass!". Also considering there are like 10 players respawning every 15 seconds, it should be easy to kill the spawnkiller. If you're not comfortable having enemies lurking around your spawn, barricade 3 of its 4 sides to block them for the mean time. Though not the most effective it still helps. It is fair, it's not cheating if it hasn't been negated completely. I wouldn't go as far as to call it a "Strategy", but it is a thing that people can do, and will do. |
Thebndjames « Citoyen » 1399742160000
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Okay sorry But it's really rare seing spawn killers ANd if you were real pro with a nice team thtat wouldnt happen |
Crashwolf « Citoyen » 1399753560000
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Thebndjames a dit : this is a thread about shooting people as they spawn, hence spawn killing. not dying like you do in transformice, read the thread next time. its not a bug. |
Xtrollfoxx « Citoyen » 1399788780000
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Spartttt a dit : you have a certain amount of time to escape or fight back sicne everyone spawns at same time and only about 2-4 or even 5 people would be spawn killing especially if they are defending. Its not much of a big advantage since its very easy to clear the way. I would have to say at the time ya took dmg right after ya spawn was a bit annoying but you were argueing during the time they fixed it so i had to step in. |
Istudent « Citoyen » 1399821660000
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Personally I am against it. I find spawnkilling/blocking a great nuisance of someone who generally wishes to drum up their kills without actually taking that much damage (In respect to what they do to the other team). The time given at the start of the round is nice, but it is not enough time to get out of their shooting range, especially when they spam conj around the spawn point. With such tactics, The offensive team will pretty much always win due to a delay in the defensive spawn. I think either the spawn radius should be larger (to prevent spam conjing it), or we should have more time before shots start to count. |
Frestho « Citoyen » 1399829460000
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Ok, u are talking about a vicious circle: spawnkilling is cheating- spawnkilling is unfair-because i cant do it- because spawnkilling is cheating. See? |
Istudent 1399832160000
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Xtrollfoxx 1399841760000
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Noodulburg « Citoyen » 1399860840000
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I think the fact that your health can not regenerate helps to fight spawn killing, cause if you do get spawnkilled once the persons health is gonna be low so you can win the next time. Plus you have more teamates then enemies spawnkilling (unless thats all the other team wants to do). I do think it's lame though so I don't do it. |
Spartttt « Citoyen » 1399861320000
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Xtrollfoxx a dit : Yes but by the time you get out of the spawn box, others would get killed, and I said when I spawn it tends to get a little laggy before I can move. |
Xtrollfoxx « Citoyen » 1400122440000
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Spartttt a dit : well thats your own experience. |
Epiccccccc « Citoyen » 1400211840000
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I don't have a problem with spawnkillers, they usually don't last long anyways since either me or the rest of my team kills them fairly quickly. |
Xtrollfoxx « Citoyen » 1400285640000
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Epiccccccc a dit : Excactly but spartttt says that newcomers may have a problem with it. Any clue what to say? |
Micepowerss « Citoyen » 1400420940000
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Spawn kills don't get you any kills if VIP map. |
Xtrollfoxx « Citoyen » 1400437740000
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Micepowerss a dit : its really hard to tell whether or you spawn killed when it is vip map because they always rush towards me in like 2 seconds when they spawn. |