How to get our Senpais(creators) to notice us. |
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Removed part of this post. I'm really trying to be as patient as possible as I can with the other players, but the ones I've spoken out against start insulting and swearing at me when I try and take action to actually fix this game. ================================================ Contributing to the actual topic at hand again... When you enter a room and 90% of the sounds you hear are SPAS 12s and M40s compared to last year's 15% or so, there's something wrong and there's some evil to exploit that's fuelling this behavior. I went into a room this morning and the only sound I could hear was SPAS, it was ridiculous. I've never heard so much of it before, and it made me sick. And people have changed so much; they don't think they're in danger anymore when in combat with an enemy, they think they're above everything else. When you shoot at a person they'll just keep walking up to you and then let loose a burst of shots as fast as possible at you while hardly aiming, and they'll get significant results (the average SPAS 12 user has a K/D higher than 1.4, and the average M40 has a K/D higher than 1). Does anyone even remember when people used to be intimidated, and people used to actually stick to the objective instead of farming for kills constantly? When I start dominating a player, they get pissed off and start chasing me nonstop and when they finally get a kill its like they've asserted they're already better than me, then they leave the room. They're the ones who got destroyed, then they yell at me and call me noob or something in Turkish or Portuguese. Fort needs reviving. Fort needs a new breath of life, something that can bring everyone back to the true spirit of the game, instead of this dystopian state. I had one of my alts with 1500 kills and 100+ Kill/death ratio get invited into a BR/TR tribe. I noticed that they were only accepting people with 5000 kills and above, and they ranked people based on their kills (with one rank "Legend exception", where my alt was put in; and it had the power of the higher ranks). It pretty much hit me then how people's attitudes towards the game are. In today's fort, if you don't have kills or you're not "good", you're nothing. E: Also do that if you want W1ck3d. Phew.. long post. (And I've still got more to vent about how Fort should be revived; so I'll spare you the extra length) Dernière modification le 1456435140000 |
Shadowtrophy « Citoyen » 1452923640000
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There just needs to be a way to revamp the element of teamwork. Like a limit on conjuration used by the team, or just... somethin'. That and some higher prices for new items. :T |
Siberianboss « Citoyen » 1452959880000
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Someone finally said it. |
Thesnailgary « Citoyen » 1452961740000
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Solfn your rants are just that. Rants. There are players who use guns other than SPAS and M40s. There are PLENTY of players who go for the flag rather than for the kills. There are plenty of players who glitch(not just through grounds) and plenty who can, but choose not to. Don't simply look at the bad side of things constantly complain. Don't look at everyone else's judgement as lower than yours simply because you have different ideas. Thanks mate. |
W1ck3d « Citoyen » 1452974220000
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Thesnailgary a dit : These players are alot rarer than you think. Did you already play at BR or TR before? It's like Solfn said. In EN, it could be like you said. In BR, in every single normal room there's at least 2 people farming. And, by coincidence, both are Spas or M40. Those plenty that choose not to, by what you said, could be limited by a low FPS and high risk per benefit ratio. I'm one of those players. My FPS is around 30, and by such i can't bug. Many could be like me. Or they just have enough consciente to not exploit that much. His judgement is fine, and hits exactly in the point where BR community starts to fall. Like a "Pro" from our server says: Iinviiisible a dit : Also, more words from the "Biggest BR Pro". Of course not. He's dumb. Iinviiisible a dit : So. Yea. Toxic players. |
Minsunny « Citoyen » 1452976860000
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What exactly are the "loopholes" ? Rule number 5, 6, ...? I know you have a strong dislike towards glitchers, but glitching is part of the game. It's a tactic that many just people like to use, especially when they know it benefits them. People use it for various of reasons, either good or bad it requires a lot of conjuration skill. Like you always said, "glitchers rely on luck" and I totally agreed with you on that because glitching is unpredictable, but that's what makes conjuration so interesting. It's really how people prefer to use it. You for example: most of your tricks/tactics such as long shield, conjure net, shooting through wall, those are all done with the use of conjuration. Glitchers, they just took a step forward by using it for teleportation or make themselves invisible, etc. which can make them too OP or impossible to kill like the person you described above. I don't see anything wrong with people who are able to use conjure for tricks and tactics. Hosting a world wide tournament with over 60 participants, I was actually expected more criticisms. But it's not a surprise that one of them would be from you. I knew from the start that you're against this tournament and I can understand why, because you're not a competitive player and this tourney is for those who are. We want this tournament to be a competition between players for many reasons, it's not just to see who's the best. But to make the game engaging, for people to get a chance to play with other players from different servers, to see different styles playing, to recognize players who had put so much love and efforts to this game, to see how alive Fortoresse really is, etc...We're just doing something here to keep forteresse active while waiting for an "update" (like there's one). I can prove to you that what we're doing here is working; more people are active than ever before this tournament. If you're truly someone who wants to fix Fortoresse, you would've help us. You're the expert, like you said, show us how everything should be handled instead on the sideline pointing out our flaws/loopholes. But if this is something you really don't want to support, at least stop being so negative about it. |
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Removed part of this post. It's not just an issue about me, it's about all of the competitive community. I'm sick of people thinking they're the best over one win or for winning in particular conditions, and this attitude is infectious and spreads to other players; its not just something I hate. People can be pretty nasty too, especially having bad attitudes when they keep losing (Have you seen the negative steam reviews for Transformice? Almost all of the legitimate ones are about the community). It's different with me, however -- don't compare me to the rest. It's not a matter of losing constantly, it's just a matter of having to deal with players that make the game not fun to play at all (I already told you about the glitcher who just sat in his conj the whole time). I'm just speaking out and taking the hits for all the players who are silent about it. You're not going to get criticisms other than me and very few others because hardly anyone thinks about things anymore. E: I'm not going to dictate what you should do anymore, you have to think about it yourselves. I'm definitely trying to help bring back Fortoresse, I just want you guys to get real and do something that actually helps. E2: Supposedly you're all hosting a tournament that's promoting activity, but you won't even be bothered to fight the system. I don't call that helping, it's not well thought out at all. Dernière modification le 1456435200000 |
Minsunny « Citoyen » 1452984240000
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solfn a dit : Whatever makes you feel better. I'm just doing something I believe that will help. |
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Well good luck with it. Other than the tournament, stuff needs to be balanced out and some of the things from suggestions might be a good idea. Things need to be more diverse and have less of the same thing every time E: I've put the "sensitive" topics in spoilers. If you're going to send me hate mail about it, give it some real thought before you approach me. Dernière modification le 1452993660000 |
Holistergo « Citoyen » 1453006560000
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May i use some of the content in your posts too? |
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You can use some, the rest I'd advise against using it because it gets lots of hate. |
W1ck3d « Citoyen » 1453040820000
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solfn a dit : In fact, that toxic player that i did quote did just show some self-humiliation-like hate in Cafe. It's interesting how low their hopes are. |
Blueztorm « Citoyen » 1453047840000
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Wow...it's sad and sickening to see so much hate on those people just because you don't like the way they choose to play. Everyone has their own reason why they choose to play that way. Leave them alone. You know you can always choose not to play with them. And y'all be making this game sounds worse than it really is. Like c'mon seriously? Let's be real here. Fortoresse is doing just fine! Just the lack of updates and players as always. So chill out! |
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blueztorm a dit : No, have you seen how much hate trying to be different gets? It's exactly the same the other way around if you think of it like that, so it's actually really sad to see the attitudes players have developed in this game. You're telling me to stop complaining about the way they play, when I go on fortoresse and get whispers complaining about my playstyle constantly, just because I don't stand still and let the other player kill me. You're not going to understand or get the same hatred if you're just a conformist. I have chosen not to play with them, and it's resulted in me hardly being able to play because of just how many there are. There's something wrong if there's an overwhelming majority of players playing the exact same way compared to how it used to be. If I'm not the only one with issues with the game I'm not just a ranter, it's a real issue. |
Cheddarfist « Citoyen » 1453074420000
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Completely off topic I'm taking a break from fortoresse but will go on the see what's going on here and there. Thx Astroider for inviting me to this game |
Siberianboss « Citoyen » 1453083300000
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blueztorm a dit : Bravo. Are you for real? Yes lets all just forget about the constant lag and lack of moderators, and why not the fact that there's no interest what so ever from the developers side to do anything with the game. This has not only lead to people abandoning the game, but to the issue Solfn is talking about. Players have even made efforts to make it as easy as possible to make a simple update such as new maps, which lead literally nowhere. Most players last hope other than that, from what I've seen, were the monster slash zombie update promised a year ago. Oh wait.. That never happened. But sure. You keep talking about Fortoresse doing just fine. The game itself isn't the real issue imo. |
Holistergo « Citoyen » 1453083480000
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Bluestorm is probably an example of what Solfn had mentioned.People who don't want change for their own benefits on seeking fame. |
Yquantum « Citoyen » 1453122660000
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Good look. I'll try to do it. Iinviiisible a dit : Lmao. He's a trash. |
Fewfre « Citoyen » 1453131660000
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Wow, I missed a lot of messages over the weekend. So, a random thought about the community from me. A lot of the players I know on Fortoresse seem to play in room 1 / domination, while I usually don't unless told to go there (and even then I don't always hang around long). So I think I generally see a slightly different view than some of you. I find the biggest issue is lack of reason to DO the objective, and lack of way to actually coordinate teamwork. The later I'm not sure how to fix (since people never speak 90% of the time), but the first seems to be a combination of people not understanding how the objectives work / how to use conj (in other words, a lack of understanding of the actual mechanics of the game), and also lack of promoting WINNING over kill count; basically, we need this. While forums/wiki helps a bit with understanding controls, we have to accept most new players in any game are not inclined to read outside sources for help (even official ones!) for online games. I really think we need a tutorial, and some kinda specialized "training" map with tutorial instructions boards or something. Two reasons while I feel this is a bigger issue than people realize: 1) If i just mention the controls for conj in some rooms where 90% of people are just at the bottom, I will notice a noticeable increase in conj use for a few rounds after. 2) Destroying ground. While this can help even against pros, it's sad how much just destroying a dirt ramp used by the opposing team will completely cut off their flow of reinforcements, and cause them to abandon objective; this is especially noticeable on the castle map, when some *insert profanity* starts digging down instead of up, causing all the newbs (inexperienced players, not noobs) to just follow them down. The fact that removing ground can have a bigger impact that spawning conj shows something is wrong in my opinion. Also, while I believe promoting some of these playstyles is bad, having some players like that is just an inevitable part of any online game, and we just needs to figure out how to make it so average players aren't driven out by them, since there is no way we can successfully get rid of them (and has been mentioned, they are players too and have just as much right to play, as much as I dislike it). Anyways, my two cents about the community and play style; any other things I can mention I have before, or someone else has better, or are even more off topic XD. Also, we really need a Fortoresse "EN Chat Thread" or something for when things get off topic like this >.< Dernière modification le 1453131780000 |
Assaultgun « Citoyen » 1453151820000
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yquantum a dit : Makes you look trashier for calling someone a trash. And i agree that players like that is just an inevitable part of any online game and here is no way we can successfully get rid of them. So I guess we could either accept them or ignore them. Dernière modification le 1453151940000 |