Boston Marathon Bombing

Please knock it off, if you're going to post then keep it relevant to the thread. Saying you "would" post but it's not relevant to thread is just spam and nonsense.

#742

Greekyogurt a dit :
.. It's--Rutabega won't approve of my opinion anyways.
It's off topic anyways..

We've been debating rather well all evening. Don't chicken out of your views now. You made a statement, now elaborate.

#743

Mausibiene a dit :
Please knock it off, if you're going to post then keep it relevant to the thread. Saying you "would" post but it's not relevant to thread is just spam and nonsense.

Does this mean I should stop responding to this "debate" now? Sorry if this has gone on too bad..

-Mausibiene edit: yes (why isn't bbcode working in your posts Ruta this is all your fault)

#744

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"We got him" Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino announced tonight as police and overjoyed Watertown residents cheered when it was announced the lone surviving murderous marathon bombing suspect was captured alive.

"Your mayor is proud of you," Menino tweeted.

whoever wrote that article cant into grammar but w/e

#745

Thunderai a dit :
We've been debating rather well all evening. Don't chicken out of your views now. You made a statement, now elaborate.

I see Justice not..as penalties but help
and emotional help to the "true victims"..those who were mostly impacted by the Boston Marathon Bombing,
and that the parties would be as equal. That each party would be helped up so they could return to a "normal" life.

However, this is if Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was mentally challenged
It wouldn't really matter, would it?
In this society, we want "justice"--no? "Death"--the reason I didn't want to initally respond
Go to trial to most likely be convicted as guilty..

That's why I'm coming off as "defensive"..

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But if he was truly a pawn,
shouldn't he be freed from the organization he was forced to bomb for. (That considering he wasn't the mastermind..)
Imagine having a great life (as I've heard and seen from the news)
to being wanted and manhunted in Boston
with your brother dead
and your father hating you.

I couldn't live that life--and I'd find it hard to find myself in that situation.
I'd kill myself, probably. I really don't know why he hasn't already.

#746

Greekyogurt a dit :
I see Justice not..as penalties but help
and emotional help to the "true victims"..those who were mostly impacted by the Boston Marathon Bombing,
and that the parties would be as equal. That each party would be helped up so they could return to a "normal" life.

However, this is if Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was mentally challenged
It wouldn't really matter, would it?
In this society, we want "justice"--no? "Death"--the reason I didn't want to initally respond
Go to trial to most likely be convicted as guilty..

That's why I'm coming off as "defensive"..
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But if he was truly a pawn,
shouldn't he be freed from the organization he was forced in..
Imagine having a great life (as I've heard and seen from the news)
to being wanted and manhunted in Boston
with your brother dead
and your father hating you.

I couldn't live that life--and I'd find it hard to find myself in that situation.
I'd kill myself, probably. I really don't know why he hasn't already.

I am under the view that there are several forms of justice. As you say, yes helping or rehabilitation is a good form. However at the heart of it, people have to be punished too for breaking the law (Whatever crime they commit).

One thing I have noticed about your points in todays debate is it focuses a lot of 'ifs'. Two again were used here: 'If here was mentally challenged', 'If he was a pawn'.

If he was a pawn, then he still has to be punished for the crimes he has committed. If he is mentally challenged, then sure, a mental hospital is where he will end up.

That's of course if he is found guilty, which isn't a certainty at all.

One thing I will say is I do think the death penalty is wrong, and I can't see how baying for the blood of the killer does actually help. In terms of punishment, spending the rest of your life behind bars is a lot better in my eyes. Though of course some prisoners spend years on death row anyway.

Oh your edit: For your 'imagine' part, he elected to place himself in that position to be honest. He could've handed himself in to avoid this entire saga.

#747

Matt Stout@MattPStout
Press conference to address capture scheduled for 9:30 p.m., with US Attorney Carmen Ortiz

So should be starting now.

#748

Not trying to be like rude or anything but theres like so much stuff going on in the world with freaking blood and stuff, i just think the world is gonna end

#749

Haruhitastic a dit :
Matt Stout@MattPStout
Press conference to address capture scheduled for 9:30 p.m., with US Attorney Carmen Ortiz

So should be starting now.

i watched it \o/
and obama's address

also about the people saying that he shouldn't be killed or put in jail because he could have some sort of "mental illness":
there had to be some sort of motive
people who are mentally ill do not just randomly pull terrorist attacks
and if he was that mentally ill, his uncle and other family members that they interviewed know that he's not mentally ill and said that they NEVER suspected him to do something like this
so yes in my opinion he does deserve a penalty to the maximum extent of the law

no need to defend terrorists who killed 4 innocent people and injured 100s more
if you're also thinking "well people make mistakes, he's just a kid": i'm sure that he had plenty of time to think about what he was doing and now he'll have even more when he's sitting in jail or worse

#750

Fancyforeve a dit :
Not trying to be like rude or anything but theres like so much stuff going on in the world with freaking blood and stuff, i just think the world is gonna end

Yeah,well stuff like that happens more often in larger numbers than we'd like to think.

#751

Jjaakkee a dit :
A couple of hours ago, in Boston, MA 2 bombs went off. They were near the finish line of the marathon.

A lot of people lost limbs, and were injured. Some died, and others are currently dying. Blood is splattered everywhere.

Currently police officers are trying to calm everyone down. We do not know whether this was an act of terrorism or something else. As far as I'm concerned, it's most likely terrorism. I hope that many are going to survive.

As for the children, parents, adults, and marathon participants, I do hope you all survive and get to continue your lives.
This tragedy is unforgettable. And I believe that everyone should have a word for these people.

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Updates!
Update 3rd Bomb Has Gone off!!! 5:00pm EST
Update 2 People (One was an 8 year old kid) Killed 110 Injured 6:00pm EST
Update Donation Links Added 8:30pm EST
Update 3 People Killed 145 Injured 3:00am EST
Update FBI Leads Investigation 10:00am EST
Update The 2 Unexploded Devices were actually not bombs. 3:20pm EST
Update 3rd person killed was a Chinese Graduate 7:00pm EST
Update 180 People Injured and 50 have gone through amputations. 7:00am EST
Update 3rd dead person was named Lidzey Lu 11:00am EST
Update Bombers found at MIT shooting 11:00pm EST
Update Older Brother Bomber shot and killed, younger on the loose 8:00am EST
Update Police closed certain perimeters of MA to keep them from escaping 8:30am EST
Update Suspect is hiding in a boat in Watertown 7:45pm EST
Update Suspect has surrendered 8:45pm EST

it was the sme people that caused 9-11 I think

#752

Yellowviper a dit :
it was the sme people that caused 9-11 I think

No...no..
Just.

I hope you're kidding.

#753

Greekyogurt a dit :
No...no..
Just.

I hope you're kidding.

i dont think he is.....

#754

Obama needs to do something! ♥AMERICAN♥

#755

Fancyforeve a dit :
Obama needs to do something! ♥AMERICAN♥

What do you think he's BEEN doing. Just letting it go by un-noticed?
He's furious about this, if you've payed attention to the news.. (No offence, just..)

#756

Fancyforeve a dit :
Obama needs to do something! ♥AMERICAN♥

It's already over

The residents of Watertown are at ease, Because they've already caught the 2nd suspect

Watch
the
NEWS

#757

Yellowviper a dit :
it was the sme people that caused 9-11 I think

.....wth.

Apparently, the brothers were 'normal'. The family said they expected this from the older one but not from the younger one.

Why do I get the feeling it wasn't just them?

#758

Fancyforeve a dit :
Obama needs to do something! ♥AMERICAN♥

Obama can't do anything! ♥LEARNTHEJUDICIALSYSTEM♥

Maraoone a dit :
.....wth.

Apparently, the brothers were 'normal'. The family said they expected this from the older one but not from the younger one.

Why do I get the feeling it wasn't just them?

There were so many bombs spread throughout Boston, I'm sure it wasn't just them. But I feel like the younger brother may have been conned into this, perhaps against his will, as he had scholarships to DARTMOUTH of all places.

#759

Yeah. Their family definitely didn't want this. That's clear.

#760

Haruhitastic a dit :
Obama can't do anything! ♥LEARNTHEJUDICIALSYSTEM♥

omfg my sides hurt.

Lunarluck a dit :
i dont think he is.....

For humanity's sake, let's say he is.

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