@Aguskyoko

This minigame only grants the good players the ability to shoot cannonballs at an even more impossible rate of fire. Any experienced survivor player understands how to plan jumps to escape next cannonballs or get to higher platforms.

Selfish? You think growing and getting better at a minigame is not a key element to its fun factor? This update does not make us more equal, it's just a stepping stone for decent players to be undodgeable.

Aguskyoko a dit :

But I can see how the hotkeys will now let a shaman be almost impossible to beat, if he knows how to use them of course. We will just have to learn how to dodge the shaman cannons more quickly, or start finding best spots where to hide from him.

- Dodging cannons more quickly? Do you realise that every jump takes a certain time depending on what kind of jump you achieve, if that time takes longer than the rate of fire of the cannonballs, there is no way to dodge it. With this update, that rate of fire is possible to achieve. Not just for a good player, but for anyone who figures out that all you have to do is push a key after you fired a cannonball.

- Better spots to hide? Have you ever even played survivor? Your arguments are clearly not backed up by experience.
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Please take some time to listen to the community of survivor players instead of blindly applying updates to something that isn't broken.

Je suis jamais aller jouer au survivor, mais avec cette maj j'irais jeter un coup d'oeil ça m'a l'air sympa !

Hopefully the mods will change it. Even if just one thing is removed, like the point system, which caused most of the problems, then survivor may be SOMEWHAT playable. Otherwise, I think it sucks.

Nice update.

But ... titles are absent

What do you mean nice update? Do you even play survivor? It's about time I make a list of what is wrong about this update.

Haiiipaiii a dit :

+Support.
PROBLEMS WITH NEW SURVIVOR:
- When shaman dies map doesn't end.
- Last survivor isn't sham, instead he get's a "point", so other noobs who got lucky with points get to be sham.
- When there's only a shaman and 1 player map doesn't end.
- Hotkeys make it easier for noobs.
- Noob shamans can be shman TWICE.
- The last survivor can be killed and doesn't get a point (this is how people can be shamans more).

Only good thing:
Meep. I like that.
EDIT: Wait.
Problems with meep:
- On a small platform shaman can kill by cannoning/spiriting themselves over and using meep instead of cannon, killing people easily.
- If shaman uses meep with platforms above, huggers can get up there.

EDIT: Server restart!? Maybe they'll change it back?!... Nah I'm probably being optimistic.

EDIT EDIT:
Okay, so you can't use double cannon with hotkeys for shaman anymore and tigs map doesn't play, I've removed those points off my list. But the rest still stand.

Lmao, sorry for my conintued updating. The more I play the more problems I find.

Heres the list, Fract.

Calm down Fract e.e People have the right to express their opinion on the update. I personally hate it but I would listen to people who might like it.

No, I never play survivor. But yes, I've been to it, there ARE spots where you can hide in almost every map so you prevent a cannon from getting to you. You can walljump, you can run, you can jump, you can take advantage of the meep and of the time it takes the shaman to get meep again and escape to another spot.

You said "growing better is a key to the fun factor", so then grow better at survivor and take advantage of the new update instead of complaining about it. Now you have something new to learn, it can be fun if you put effort in it.

The 'meep' itself is a nice thought, but what about mice not hugging but wanting to move past the shaman? This limits the freedom of the survivors and brings imbalance between shaman - survivors.

What about platforms where survivors have no freedom of movement? The shaman just jumps on it and uses its 'meep' to kill everyone on it without any possibility of escaping.

@Aguskyoko

Grow better at it? Why do people think they can bring up arguments when they barely have any knowledge of the subject?
What they did to this minigame is not a couple of minor changes, they took the original concept which wasn't even flawed and turned it around. The problems in the past survivor were: hugging, God spawns (didn't even take care of this), favourites

Err... meep may be good, but could you just make the strength less? Because the meep is too strong, you can kill mice with it. Even the non-huggers. Sham just need to run to the mice and meep-kicks 'em. It isn't fair.

I agree with Fract.

And I meant "selfish" because of those players who can't help but write "now the pros like me will be the same as the noobs oh this update sucks I want to be pro again". That's selfish. There's some people stating their opinion in way better arguments and they aren't selfish at all, but I tried to refer to those who just seem to want the old survivor mode only because they were "pro" at it and now they are "noobs".

I know there are some maps which will totally suck with the new update, I'm aware. The update is good and is bad. It has it pros and cons, everything in life has. Maybe it's time to make other types of maps for survivor, I surely think it's a pity for all those maps that won't work out with the new update and the people who liked them.

Also, if meep wasn't that powerful it would be better. I agree with making it more powerful than on the Halloween event, but not THAT strong.

Yea, meep is kinda like a stronger spirit that shoots all directions.

nice update :)

thats an awesome update :D

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A delete parce que la franchement.... le 'Meep' est trop puissant et le cham profite a faire le kamikaz et les -2 points à chaque fois qu'on perd WTF ?! C'est encore pire , c'est deja assez dur d'en gagner 1 pour certains mais en gagner 2 franchement ...

This argument has not been constructive so I'm going to take my time to review all the recent changes and hope they take it into consideration.

I dislike this >_>. I want holzi! When the sham dies theres extra time... And when its just the sham and someone else the survivor doesnt get to sham.. Change it! Change it back! I hate it! And i hate this meep stuff FROM HALLOWEEN! Change it back!! D:<<<

Enlevez le meep... Je vous prie... je vais détruire mon pc...

Well I'm going to stick to my arguments and points above. A guy almost got votebanned for being sham too many times, shamans are just running around pressing spacebar instead of using cannons because you die so much easier.