Paroles De Dev: 8th Birthday Discussion Thread. |
Antonio « Sénateur » 1525279020000
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The fact that everyone is pointing out flaws in the game or stating what should be changed instead of trying to come up with ideas on how we as a community can band together and try to attract new users... While I do agree with the majority of everyone ideas, I think the current state of the game is fine and workable. What we should be doing is trying to get everyone that we know form IRL and other communities and let them know about this game. We should try our best to get the word out about Transformice and I believe we have a big enough community to do it. Dernière modification le 1525279080000 |
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Nekotony a dit : For sure! Problem is, Devs clearly said that the system is too complex so they need to remove a few functions, and we're suggesting which ones would work best! |
Honorabilis « Consul » 1525360500000
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Nekotony a dit : lol my friends will laugh in my face if i say i am playing tfm let's play together.. |
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Every good game comes to an end sometime, perhaps it's time to let go and focus on new projects rather than trying to revive an old dead game, over the years Atelier801 tried implamanting different ideas (divine/lua/revamping interfaces and more), all of them caused an initial hype and eventually everybody kept getting bored, this game will always be great but as Meli said it's a "loop" and with the updates hype and the boredom it's another loop. It won't change. I'm being brutal but this is the truth and sometimes you have to move on, A801 is going to rely on DeadMaze and eventually drop Transformice for lack of resources, with Flash dying the death is closer than ever. And as to your suggestions, don't you think Atelier801 is smart enough to think about each and every detail that you have mentioned? They are all obvious and honestly if they are letting people go, don't you think they have re-considered each and every possibility? The only way I see Transformice surviving is by completely revamping the game. From recreating map editor to redesigning the game graphics, but this games core is basic and it was never supposed to be more than that. It might won't help either. |
Antonio « Sénateur » 1525621860000
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Honorabilis a dit : Are you assuming or have you literally asked? You can tell other people as well besides friends. |
Plague « Citoyen » 1525693920000
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Add Defilante coins *Ü* |
Ivanka04 « Citoyen » 1525716960000
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Croissette a dit : Also badges/titles and cartouches |
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Croissette a dit : no point in adding ones if the mode is literally extinct that no one pretty much plays...wouldnt be surprised if its one of the features that gets cutted off. Dernière modification le 1525767720000 |
Antonio « Sénateur » 1525777860000
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Deltarubee a dit : Or it would bring people to play it. Stop thinking negatively. |
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Nekotony a dit : With the addition of defilante coins it would still not be enough for it to be really sustainable, lets be real here. Im honestly being more realistic... 1) Defilante is pretty much never updated. Problem number one is that they dont give a shit about or either we're interested in it in the past as I havent seen in Defilante pretty much non-existant changes. 2) I believe that adding Defilante coins would only bring people to farm the coins just for the sake of the content unlocking for their profile and they would go back bandwagoning on the normal/vanilla or even racing rooms. That is the only value the Defilante coins would bring as it would shake up the playerbase a bit with this, but the staying amount of players in longer terms realistically wouldnt be much when they are seeing that there exists little to no rooms with any much players. 3) Weird rotation. And I mean by that is that it takes a painful long time to get any good out of it statwise. Hence why people are off on some other more preferred rooms too where you also dont have to be consistently active (then again cant do anything about it since its in Defilante veins) and can have some moments of talk, while on Defilante if you do that you would fall behind unless you finished early. 4) I was considering to go over on how the map submissions on it is low too due to the difficulties of making one (not to mention to pray it passes) and the low submission rate but I guess the map rotation with its count is alright. I mean sure, I wouldnt mind the defilante coin addition as I supported the suggestion before when someone suggested it, but it needs more than that if it wants some actual growth. From what I want to say here, it would be rather hard to return especially after A801 statement, hence why im basing my opinion like this. edit/spelling Dernière modification le 1525791900000 |
Antonio « Sénateur » 1525797660000
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Deltarubee a dit : Defilante coins don't have anything to do with the map submissions or rotation. Plus it's hard to farm these things, or it will take awhile to farm things. Even if people are only their to farm, there are people there. |
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Nekotony a dit : I stated above the facts that is wrong with Defilante right now that makes it so dead, not for a random reason. And as I said, it will shake up the activity for a little while, but it will honestly be noticed in a very limited range of people, since even after the implementation people might not even bat an eye to it just because its current state is in ruins. Also the fact that it may be hard to farm is just speculation...only thing it makes it hard to farm it is the constant long-ish length of the maps... Dernière modification le 1525804920000 |
Antonio « Sénateur » 1525802820000
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Deltarubee a dit : See, you can't see into the future and neither can I. Saying that it's hard to farm is just speculation (It's not though, not everyone is a pro. Plus, it takes awhile to farm everything and a lot of people have a life) is like me saying that reviving something dead is just speculation. It's an online game mode, not a dead human. It is possible to revive things like this. The fact that you don't think that Defilante won't bring lasting attention if coins were added doesn't make sense because you can't see into the future. I can't even see into the future but I choose to be optimists about this and believe it will bring enough activity to get at least enough users to play this portion of the game. Defilante is my favorite mode and I would love to see more worked on this mode rather than it being trashed. So, stop assuming the worst. |
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Nekotony a dit : Ok I will jump in once again, since it almost as rather feels like you went past some things... Not a pessimist or anything, im being realistic here about Defilante. Pretty much went from saying my opinion from negative to worst even though in between of all of this I was being rational. And while yes, it is possible to revive it, I truly believe it takes more than defilante coins to do the job. My reason? Not because I can see the future or anything, but after seeing other modes being implemented with same treatment, I didnt really felt good growth to it as it stayed about the same or still dissatisfied (Survivor is a good example to refer in this instance, while Racing/Bootcamp has remained the same in its position) Dernière modification le 1525806120000 |
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I agree with all said above! |
Antonio « Sénateur » 1525877160000
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Deltarubee a dit : There is nothing realistic about that, those are just assumptions. You never know what may happen. Anyways from what I have seen, survivor activity has sort-of grown with the addition of the coins. At least, that is what I've noticed. Plus, it's not the coins fault that these modes didn't grow up to be famous, it's the decrease in user activity. Due to that decrease of activity, all modes player count has been decreased so it's not really the coins fault. Now, when coins first came out for boot camp/survivor, it did bring activity to both modes. The feeling of earning coins and getting that badge drives people to farm those rooms until they get everything using the coins which takes awhile the majority of the time because a lot of users actually do have a social lifes and ain't playing TFM 24/7. Plus, what about the new users (we still get those) that may farm the room aswell. I personally believe that adding coins will bring enough activity to this mode to revive it which doesn't mean have 100 users playing at once, but make it less dead then what it already is. Now, I prefer the idea of keeping Defilante and touching it up rather than killing the mode exactly. Defilante coins is one of the ideas that I agree with that could help bring activity but there could be way more done to improve the mode. Dernière modification le 1525877400000 |
Syrius « Consul » 1525877220000
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There won't be any harm, but admins could add something more useful instead of def coins. |
Antonio « Sénateur » 1525877580000
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Syrius a dit : Yes, but def coins and other useful things would be nice. There shouldn't just be one thing, ya know. |
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As it stands, Defilante is just a quicker and worse version of racing. Adding Def coins just makes it more susceptible to cheese/coin farming, instead of players actually enjoying the mode itself. There's no point in trying to revive a dead gamemode when it will basically still be completely un-enjoyable and it will only be used for cheese. People will get all the coins they want, complete the bars for cartouches/badges, and then completely avoid the gamemode again. |
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Gnar a dit : Finally someone who understands me and the situation. Thank you. Dernière modification le 1525961760000 |