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i think you're reading into my comment way too much lol.

anyway, i'm going to PM you instead of replying here, gimme a minute

I don't argue privately, if you have something to say you'll say it in public where you can be critisized, or you won't say it at all. And no I'm not reading into your comment too much, infact I'm barely scratching the surface.

too late lol, i've already sent it.

i'm sure plenty of people in this thread are sick of these sorts of conversations, so PM is the only place i'm going to continue it.

I'm pretty sure the point of this thread is to point out examples of Tumblrism and show just why they're so bad. Like what you're doing right now, you're taking the debate into private PM's where no one can critisize you, you're basically trying to make a safe place.

And we all know how fun safe places are on Tumblr.

So again, if you have something to say, you say it publicly, because this isn't a debate between us, it's a debate for the whole thread.

no i'm sick of this.

Just because it's taboo to talk about something doesn't mean it isn't ok. There is no discussion not worth discussing, if we can discuss telletubies we can also discuss rape. So it doesn't matter, if someone is triggered by a taboo topic, well oh fucking well, it changes nothing, as said before, nothing is sacred, nothing can be protected from public discussion and critisism.

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i think you're reading into my comment way too much lol.

anyway, i'm going to PM you instead of replying here, gimme a minute

I don't argue privately, if you have something to say you'll say it in public where you can be critisized, or you won't say it at all. And no I'm not reading into your comment too much, infact I'm barely scratching the surface.

too late lol, i've already sent it.

i'm sure plenty of people in this thread are sick of these sorts of conversations, so PM is the only place i'm going to continue it.

I'm pretty sure the point of this thread is to point out examples of Tumblrism and show just why they're so bad. Like what you're doing right now, you're taking the debate into private PM's where no one can critisize you, you're basically trying to make a safe place.

And we all know how fun safe places are on Tumblr.

So again, if you have something to say, you say it publicly, because this isn't a debate between us, it's a debate for the whole thread.

no i'm sick of this.

then don't partake in the discussion, or create a new discussion like me and ddapple did

agreeing with bagel 100%.

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Just because it's taboo to talk about something doesn't mean it isn't ok. There is no discussion not worth discussing, if we can discuss telletubies we can also discuss rape. So it doesn't matter, if someone is triggered by a taboo topic, well oh fucking well, it changes nothing, as said before, nothing is sacred, nothing can be protected from public discussion and critisism.

and just because you, 1 out of the entirety of the public, wants to talk about something very disturbing to practically the entire world (gore, rape, suicide, etc), doesnt mean its okay. there's a time and a place for discussing those things, and that place is one not in the midst of a couple of 3rd graders or, very similarly, on a public mouse forum thread where the general audience is at an age where they dont want to talk about or will be disturbed by those things. i will not dox you for partaking in such a conversation with two or six or how many other people that are prepared and want to talk about that topic with you collectively in a private group, but when you are posting it publicly where anyone of any age can see it, there's a problem. i hope you can see that.

i actually understand some people get triggered by shit but just gently tell them "hey, i feel uncomfortable watching ____, can you do this another time" instead of flipping out and screaming ab how triggered you are

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i actually understand some people get triggered by shit but just gently tell them "hey, i feel uncomfortable watching ____, can you do this another time" instead of flipping out and screaming ab how triggered you are

yeah i hope no one thinks im defending people like that lol, throwing a tantrum about it will not help your situation at all and politely telling them that you feel uncomfortable with something is the safest way to do it.

Again, the best way to recover from all that is from safe and normal exposer, trigger warnings don't do that and have the oppisite effect, creating a shell where once the topic does come up (and it will get over it thats life) they could have worse problems.

Regardeless of how "gross" you think a topic is, it's going to get talked about sometime in your life, and if you're not ready for it and literally are "triggered" by it, you're going to get fucked over. People talk about rape, it's how people find out if a rape case was real, they discuss what they know, or they gossip about it too. Either way the subject comes up and just because you think it's "gross" or get "triggered" by it, doesn't mean the whole world will shut up.

as a person who was very affected by gore before, and who had to go through repeated thoughts about it as well, i began exposing myself more and more each time to certain images so i could get used to it and overcome the "trigger" i had. because of me doing this to myself, i'm not as affected as i was by it in the past. i'll keep doing so, too.
i was even affected by thoughts of murder, or anything like that, but then i started watching homicide documentaries or anything similar to it.

though, i could understand if it was someone going through WORSE problems than i had to go through. for example, someone who had to go through extreme trauma. which is pretty bad and unfortunate.

but not all of us went through extreme trauma for these "triggers". some of us dont even have that big of a trigger, some of us just overreact just to have another person comfort them. some people aren't even willing to try and overcome that trigger they have because they don't want to. and i'm talking about people who did not go through bad trauma, just people who are extremely "terrified" of that one thing that they can try getting rid of slowly.
of course, i'm not saying you're going to immediately get rid of it, i'm not saying that it's not hard to do. but it's still possible.

also, like i've said earlier, i've seen people overreact and "scream" at people for mentioning something "bad" and half of those times were on these forums. it's like with the misgendering thing. if someone accidentally misgenders someone, another person has to act unnecessarily rude to them when they could just respectfully tell the person their preferred pronouns. and yes, people CAN check the person's profile, but that thought doesn't exactly come to mind all the time. in fact, some don't even put their gender on their profile, but if they do, it's just written down in the tabs they have instead of actually using the gender option thats available.

mousechris does make a good point, too. you can't expect not to see that one thing you are affected by when it's literally almost everywhere now.

(sorry if i repeated certain words im spacing out a lot right now so i can't focus)

No Muka you made unique points you aren't repeating anything :P

thats good to hear, the reason why i was spacing out was because of me not wearing my glasses.. haha..

milk that isn't Tumblrism that's just dumb jokes ^^

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I do understand that, however the point is, EVERYTHING is worthy of ridicule. And you can't try to stop that ridicule just because you don't like it, otherwise, everyone and everything becomes susceptible to censorship. It's a dangerous path that if one person takes and they even make censorship look like "oh it's just being nice" then suddenly you've literally have an entire group of opinions that people will do anything to remove from society, we already see it today. Those Tumblr people can have their opinions, it's fine, but they can't try to force other people to not be able to speak for having a different opinion, they can't label their opinion as evil. No one can.

*tips fedora* m'ridicule rights

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I do understand that, however the point is, EVERYTHING is worthy of ridicule. And you can't try to stop that ridicule just because you don't like it, otherwise, everyone and everything becomes susceptible to censorship. It's a dangerous path that if one person takes and they even make censorship look like "oh it's just being nice" then suddenly you've literally have an entire group of opinions that people will do anything to remove from society, we already see it today. Those Tumblr people can have their opinions, it's fine, but they can't try to force other people to not be able to speak for having a different opinion, they can't label their opinion as evil. No one can.

*tips fedora* m'ridicule rights

added to the OP, hail fedoras

mousechris daddy

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how more can this be retarded.

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What the fuck, Tumblr?

changing your gender to me doesnt sound normal
but posting it online and whining like a little shit is fucking cringy it make me spit up my guts

being otherkin has nothing to do with gender, but i agree its pretty funny when people throw a fit about these things

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being otherkin has nothing to do with gender, but i agree its pretty funny when people throw a fit about these things

but its really stupid,
saying being something else than human is just attention seeking,
and yes, they all are like that

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being otherkin has nothing to do with gender, but i agree its pretty funny when people throw a fit about these things

but its really stupid,
saying being something else than human is just attention seeking,
and yes, they all are like that

that was my point. otherkin is really stupid in my opinion but im not gonna go all angry on these people and leave them alone unless they're an example of the picture above

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being otherkin has nothing to do with gender, but i agree its pretty funny when people throw a fit about these things

but its really stupid,
saying being something else than human is just attention seeking,
and yes, they all are like that

that was my point. otherkin is really stupid in my opinion but im not gonna go all angry on these people and leave them alone unless they're an example of the picture above

Neither am i.
i just ignore them,