Trolling is part of the game.
/Half Support

Thank you for your opinion. :)

/support, but, if someone gets first, and they get brought out of the hole, they lose their first.

I would add another point that this could help out in mice transformation maps to maintain a sizable amount of mice that can help

making mice small and the cat skill are bad examples as they both have mechanical benefits.

cats can jump father, small mice have a smaller hitbox and can fit through small gaps.

skills like the sit-to-be-kissed and the roll are just aesthetic skills, But i'm not sure if this counts as an aesthetic skill. IT doesn't change the way anything looks. It doesn't change the mechanics, it just "undo"'s an action.

no support from me sorry. Just seems a bit pointless. As said before it's only a few seconds wait till the next round to change your outfit, and if you missed your egg, that's your bad. Tough luck.

i understand it can't be used to get more stats, or further extend the maximum length of the round, so i don't see why people are using this argument

Squirrelmows a dit :

making mice small and the cat skill are bad examples as they both have mechanical benefits.

cats can jump father, small mice have a smaller hitbox and can fit through small gaps.

skills like the sit-to-be-kissed and the roll are just aesthetic skills, But i'm not sure if this counts as an aesthetic skill. IT doesn't change the way anything looks. It doesn't change the mechanics, it just "undo"'s an action.

no support from me sorry. Just seems a bit pointless. As said before it's only a few seconds wait till the next round to change your outfit, and if you missed your egg, that's your bad. Tough luck.

i understand it can't be used to get more stats, or further extend the maximum length of the round, so i don't see why people are using this argument

they can be used to weigh down portions of maps to stabilize them for others?

Lemodile a dit :

I'd be fine with it as long as it's not possible to get another cheese / event item in the same round.

what lemo said
/half support

Paperonaruto a dit :

they can be used to weigh down portions of maps to stabilize them for others?

what "they" are you refering to? rolling mice? sit-and-kiss mice? you're saying they're heavier than non rolling mice? I didn't know that...

Squirrelmows a dit :

Paperonaruto a dit :VoirMasquer

they can be used to weigh down portions of maps to stabilize them for others?

what "they" are you refering to? rolling mice? sit-and-kiss mice? you're saying they're heavier than non rolling mice? I didn't know that...

oh they meaning the respawned mice here

and rolling mice have different ways of moving so it's not purely aesthetic

their speed of moving is the same from what i've seen? and they can still do all the things a normal mice does it's just trickier to wj and cornerjump... unless they interact differently from water (which i've not been able to test) then I don't see how roll is anything but aesthetic.

I suppose in the "see saw" type maps this skill (respawning a hole'd mouse) could be advantageous for weight, but so could an anvil/boxand if a sham is present they already have those

No, this has some good factors, but almost 5 bad factors for each.
You can remove those hackers' firsts, but you can also create a new "category" of favoring; Trolling shamans; Haters; shamans who want to first themselves will just need this skill to bring back who escaped their hands and entered the hole.

you can't remove hacker's firsts. The OP stated that bringing a mouse back from the whole would NOT affect their cheese, or stats, or let them get more, or less

Bumping this again, I'd just like that if you're brought back your stat won't change and you'll still have the cheese. If you got the event token already, you won't be able to get it again but if you haven't then it's useful to be brought back to get it if you forgot. The time won't change once all the mice are in the hole, and when you bring some back you'll still have the remaining seconds.

I'd rather not support this tbh, it may lead to flamewars and trust me it will no matter what. Countless reasons also said above/prev page.

/halfsupport

I don't think this needs to be a shaman skill. Everyone should be able to come back! Just to avoid people who take time before the next map could start, I'd add that also that when the last mouse enters, everyone who came out of the hole automatically goes back, and a new map starts.

No support

A waste of time and not needed

the issue for me is that the player would just hang around there. that's useless unless there is somesort of way to retreat back into the hole /halfsupport

I don't completely understand but what I have gathered you want to implement something where the shaman can decide who they want to be brought back to life?

/nosupport

It's not that hard to just wait for the next round to start. And what if the mouse brought back is afk and the shaman has no way to get them back in the hole? That'd be -1 save. It'd be an inconvenience for the most part.

Fairysugars a dit :

/nosupport

It's not that hard to just wait for the next round to start. And what if the mouse brought back is afk and the shaman has no way to get them back in the hole? That'd be -1 save. It'd be an inconvenience for the most part.

Like I said before, when a mouse is brought back their stat is still there and the sham still has that save. Nothing changes, just during a few seconds of the map a random mouse can be brought back. They can't go back into the hole, or get any token that they already gotten.

disneyseal a dit :

the issue for me is that the player would just hang around there. that's useless unless there is somesort of way to retreat back into the hole /halfsupport

The shaman can always go into the hole and a new round can start. Nobody needs to be brought back, and the time won't change when mice and brought back.

cloudoflames a dit :

I don't completely understand but what I have gathered you want to implement something where the shaman can decide who they want to be brought back to life?

Back from the hole, they can decide at the last few seconds. c:

Fire_Tiger a dit :

/halfsupport

I don't think this needs to be a shaman skill. Everyone should be able to come back! Just to avoid people who take time before the next map could start, I'd add that also that when the last mouse enters, everyone who came out of the hole automatically goes back, and a new map starts.

Everyone should also be revived too, but only five people can be. (: The same could be for the mice being brought back!