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never really did use the physicist tree because of the skills that would make the divine experience a breeze

creative/experimental builds are where it's at B)

/no support

if you're gonna force divine moders to make builds within their restrictions (of no B plank, spirit, cloud, and limited springs) then you have to get rid of the mouse-teleporter, the cheese-giving, and the heart-to-hole skill too. To get rid of one but not the others is pointless. I'd personally rather see divine shams ACTUALLY BUILD even if it's with 2 giant planks and one nail than simply teleport mice around the level.

I don't have much beef with the plaster/band-aid skill, whatever it's called. I've only EVER seen divine moders' use it. I thought it was a skill specificly for them, it's not a b plank, as it can still move in all directions on the screen, it just can't change it's orientation. I see no problem with it for divine moders.

it's the skills that give the option of not building at all, such as teleport, which need to go before the skills that augment building.

/support

Squirrelmows a dit :

/no support

if you're gonna force divine moders to make builds within their restrictions (of no B plank, spirit, cloud, and limited springs) then you have to get rid of the mouse-teleporter, the cheese-giving, and the heart-to-hole skill too. To get rid of one but not the others is pointless. I'd personally rather see divine shams ACTUALLY BUILD even if it's with 2 giant planks and one nail than simply teleport mice around the level.

Sure. I support these being removed too if it comes down to it.

/half support

/half support
Im fine with pig plank going away from divine mode.
but I think instead of removing the restorative from divine, but that restorative instead of having restorative at 5, to put it at 3 in divine, kinda like the spring. And Im pretty sure a lot of people will have to redistribute there points which cost's a lot of cheese.


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Actually I think the big plank also should also be limited, instead of having infinite big planks, in divine put it at 3 big planks only.

/No support

I find it funny how people want big plank removed but not useless/annoying skills like bubbles to be removed.

Removed from divine mode.

jerjermerca a dit :

/half support
Im fine with pig plank going away from divine mode.
but I think instead of removing the restorative from divine, but that restorative instead of having restorative at 5, to put it at 3 in divine, kinda like the spring. And Im pretty sure a lot of people will have to redistribute there points which cost's a lot of cheese.

Spoiler

Well at least I know to now get the big plank skill and maybe the restorative.

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This ^

Subwooferdub a dit :

/No support

I find it funny how people want big plank removed but not useless/annoying skills like bubbles to be removed.

Bubbles don't make divine easier, do they? Not nearly as much as big plank/restorative.

Haruhitastic a dit :

Subwooferdub a dit :VoirMasquer

/No support

I find it funny how people want big plank removed but not useless/annoying skills like bubbles to be removed.

Bubbles don't make divine easier, do they? Not nearly as much as big plank/restorative.

No, but they're annoying as hell and just kill everybody.

Now that I think about it, I think Big Plank is a bit OP, and should be removed. I would actually like to see shams build using boxes, and experiment with v-anchors instead of put one huge plank across the map and get 20 saves.

/half support
if you dont like the skill in divine mode then dont use them ¬_¬
And instead of removing them they would have to have a differnt effect of some sort

OR

REMOVE ALL SKILLS!!

Forgotton a dit :

And instead of removing them they would have to have a differnt effect of some sort

Cloud is disabled but does not leave another effect in its wake.

/1 Third Support

I somewhat agree about the Big Plank being removed, due to the fact that on easy maps it only takes a few big planks to complete it. However, there are harder maps out there that players make.

But I don't agree about getting rid of Restorative, since it helps keep the build still, and most Divine Builds when shams don't use Restorative often swing, especially when there is a lot of mice, thus ruining the build.

sabzra a dit :

/1 Third Support

I somewhat agree about the Big Plank being removed, due to the fact that on easy maps it only takes a few big planks to complete it. However, there are harder maps out there that players make.

But I don't agree about getting rid of Restorative, since it helps keep the build still, and most Divine Modes when shams don't use Restorative often swing, especially when there is a lot of mice, thus ruining the build.

If you can't build without restoritive, then you are a bad divine shaman.

winter4438 a dit :

/No Support

If you don't want those skills in divine, then don't use them with your points.

I don't want free saves for ANYONE in what is supposed to be the biggest CHALLENGE in the game

Tomdizzy a dit :

sabzra a dit :VoirMasquer

/1 Third Support

I somewhat agree about the Big Plank being removed, due to the fact that on easy maps it only takes a few big planks to complete it. However, there are harder maps out there that players make.

But I don't agree about getting rid of Restorative, since it helps keep the build still, and most Divine Modes when shams don't use Restorative often swing, especially when there is a lot of mice, thus ruining the build.

If you can't build without restoritive, then you are a bad divine shaman.

Being a good or bad Divine Shaman has no point in this, Tomdizzy. Lots of people use Restorative, even the good ones. Because there is pretty much no other way to keep a build still, especially with those harder maps that requires a lot of building, unless a Shaman is really smart.

sabzra a dit :

Tomdizzy a dit :VoirMasquer

sabzra a dit :VoirMasquer

/1 Third Support

I somewhat agree about the Big Plank being removed, due to the fact that on easy maps it only takes a few big planks to complete it. However, there are harder maps out there that players make.

But I don't agree about getting rid of Restorative, since it helps keep the build still, and most Divine Modes when shams don't use Restorative often swing, especially when there is a lot of mice, thus ruining the build.

If you can't build without restoritive, then you are a bad divine shaman.

Being a good or bad Divine Shaman has no point in this, Tomdizzy. Lots of people use Restorative, even the good ones. Because there is pretty much no other way to keep a build still, especially with those harder maps that requires a lot of building, unless a Shaman is really smart.

Come see me in #divinity sometime and tell me how impossible it is to make a steady build without any skills at all

Full support. I shouldn't have to explain.
If you don't support it, (you think you need these skills) then you just need to git gud