Censere a dit :

/nosupport

I see that you have put a lot of effort into making this topic and that it is a well-supported idea, but in my opinion making an entire new type of ground skin for a function which can be easily created with modifying a normal ground and just using a prespawned item to show that it does not collide with grounds isn't really worth it in my view.

What I usually see is that if a nob shaman encounters an anticloud in a P4 or a P8 and they don't know what it does, they're also too new to actually understand how to build successfully on the map.

On the other hand, if there's an anticloud map with a more experienced shaman, they'll quickly realise that the ground doesn't collide with shaman objects because they most likely have more experience with the game and building- thus there is no need for a new ground to distinguish the anticloud function.

This just basically makes me think that creating an entire new ground just for newer players to recognize that it has different properties is a bit pointless due to the fact that they'll probably not be able to understand the game physics to build around the map in the first place.

Shadowtrophy a dit :

I think I'll just stick with the experiment-with-colored-cloud-grounds-while-being-sham to see whether objects can pass or not. Might be also a lot to memorize for everyone with the new colors, even if it looks similar.

Kimsterjay a dit :

Good job on making the thread Raique, looks good in my opinion. But what would this make the other maps in the P4 category with this concept be? Would they all get de-permed, or can they be switched to an anticloud? I really the idea but I am gonna have to half support.

Kimsterjay a dit :

Ah, okay. I like the idea though so I will support ^^

Grimmaro a dit :

I actually like the transparent grounds we use nowadays, much more than a grid, simply because they help represent that the ground is "hollow" in a sense. I feel like having a grid or even a full solid looking ground would be much more confusing, especially since most people already know this ground to be transparent or hollow when encountering; also if we kept the hollow grounds, the map crew wouldn't have the tedious task of redoing a ton of maps!

All-in-all I don't see why anticlouds have to be introduced to the editor when it is so easy to make, but if you're making a map that is full of grounds, having an official anticloud ground would allow you to register the ground as one, instead of two. I will go half support