Heronius#0095 - @119884 (P6) is there even any mech

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Heronius#0095 - @119884 (P6) is there even any mech

@746154 same

@4961949 10 fps simulator

Yuugiooohhhh - @7146276 - P5

This is very laggy at start, and because the spawn is right next to the edge of the ground and the map faces to the left, rushers may end up running off the map before it's too late (due to lag)...... at least add a wall on the right so that people don't accidentally die at the start of map

Jota a dit :

@7845972 - P5

The point at which there is offscreen gameplay is very insignificant and does not negatively impact the gameplay. Players that cannot see offscreen won't be at disadvantage as they can still clearly see where their mouse is.

Jota a dit :

@7198300 - P7

The colors of the sofas are representative of what they are; they are not misleading at all. While this map is far from being on the side of the better maps, it isn't bad enough to be worth deperming.

Jota a dit :

@3655798 - P6

Sure, it will be put up for a quick discussion to switch to P7.

Wwwarda a dit :

@1365330 - P8

This map has been reported several times before and there is a general agreement to keep it as it is because newer players will still need shaman's help.

Wwwarda a dit :

@154058 - P5

Technically this map has art, it is just very poor. It will be put up for deperming.

Wwwarda a dit :

@1084667 - P5

The mechanism is indeed more impressive than the art, so it will be discussed to switch to P6.

Wwwarda a dit :

@485985 & @1753254 & @248696 - P5

Indeed poor art and gameplay. Will be discussed to deperm.

Wwwarda a dit :

@2468199 - P9

It is not as impressive as other P9 maps but it's not a problem, it's fine as it is as it explores simple concepts.

Wwwarda a dit :

@485646 - P8

We have to take into consideration newer players that are not able to wall jump in such cramped areas. The shamans will have to build from the top and the bottom so that newer players can get back to the hole without having to wall jump the vertical grounds. To be able to make it work, the shamans will have to be careful to keep some space to get back from the bottom back to the top without blocking the path if they want to avoid going offscreen, so technically some cooperation is needed despite the map being very simple.

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Heronius#0095 - @119884

Wwwarda a dit :

@746154

Keep in mind that P6 is not strictly for mechanism but also for trap and cooperation. This map technically has cooperation as players need to be careful to avoid dropping the planks and falling down. Both maps are fine as is.

Karaka a dit :

@4961949

We did not experience lag (in public or in tests), it should be fine as is. It's also in P66 temporarily, so after it is removed from that category, it should start showing less frequently.

Anomunus a dit :

@7146276 - P5

Will be put up for discussion.

+Guai a dit :

@3337200 * #11
the map has nothing tangible, just randomly placed floors with lots of useless climbing grounds. many of my maps were rejected in this rotation as "climbing points are not good for new players". i don't think it appropriate for this map to be in the p11 rotation just with nostalgic feelings. https://prnt.sc/13xur7q

@3090849 * #11
same https://prnt.sc/13xx1db

@7737805 * #11
same https://prnt.sc/13xy5ka

@7605441 * #11
same https://prnt.sc/141sc0l , also as @6364331 the playground is limited.

@6364331 * #11
almost half of the map is already covered with grounds, this restricts the areas where mice can roam and gives vampires a great advantage. i have rarely seen rats survive on this map and there are also climbing areas in the area where the sword is.

@7560281 * #11
i think it's too dark more than need.

Trexexjc a dit :

P10 - @7719570: The map can be easily abused with the shaman meeps. Furthermore, if the shaman posses the "Meep" skill, he can easily distribute it leading to an unbalanced gameplay as it's impossible to survive, no matter how skilled you are.

Will be forwarded to the survivor team.

@264785 - P5

So if I can't make a map of belle delphine, wearing perfectly acceptable attire, because the theme of the map is of belle delphine, then why is there a stripper/pole dancer map that is P5'd?...

that seems like that's not an appropriate map for a mouse game for kids, but if you need further reason to deperm, then, there's also the fact the map is old, generic, and has bad gameplay and not the best art either.

@6594060 & @6597311 & @3422066 - P5
confusing collisions

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Also i want to ask a question:

Mapcrew a dit :

Wwwarda a dit :VoirMasquer

@1365330 - P8

This map has been reported several times before and there is a general agreement to keep it as it is because newer players will still need shaman's help.

If the map has reported several times before due to the map is mostly soloable and easy to build-two shamans are not needed,
there must be a problem, right? Why don't you think about move it to P1 at least P4? In that case, newer players will also get shaman's help.
Many maps in this thread are reported for switching categories, not for deperming, please consider this ^^

@828733 * #8
i believe one shaman is quite enough to complete the map, suggest you testing.
@136276 * #8
same
@1408609 * #8
same

@1095753 * #8
pretty annoying gameplay for shams. for using dvine mode shams there is no ground to immobilize the bridge. also maybe okay for #divinity
@440185 * #8
same
@159903 * #8
same

@4032861 - P18 - Annoying mechanism and the wooden planks make it hard to go farther and the spacing is very limited there.

Trexexjc a dit :

P10 - @7719570: The map can be easily abused with the shaman meeps. Furthermore, if the shaman posses the "Meep" skill, he can easily distribute it leading to an unbalanced gameplay as it's impossible to survive, no matter how skilled you are.

We are aware of the issues surrounding meep- this map has only been perm’d for a month to see how it plays out. Whether it will be a permanent fixture in the rotation or not is dependent on the reactions of the playbase.

+Guai a dit :

@3337200 * #11
the map has nothing tangible, just randomly placed floors with lots of useless climbing grounds. many of my maps were rejected in this rotation as "climbing points are not good for new players". i don't think it appropriate for this map to be in the p11 rotation just with nostalgic feelings. https://prnt.sc/13xur7q

@3090849 * #11
same https://prnt.sc/13xx1db

@7737805 * #11
same https://prnt.sc/13xy5ka

@7605441 * #11
same https://prnt.sc/141sc0l , also as @6364331 the playground is limited.

@6364331 * #11
almost half of the map is already covered with grounds, this restricts the areas where mice can roam and gives vampires a great advantage. i have rarely seen rats survive on this map and there are also climbing areas in the area where the sword is.

@7560281 * #11
i think it's too dark more than need.

@3337200
New players have two points of access to the higher grounds without wall-jumping. They are illustrated here.
However, the second route’s chocolate ground is slightly slanted, which makes it more difficult to climb.
Potential edits will be discussed.

@3090849
The lack of chocolate grounds increases the difficulty of mobility for new players in this map, but they still have options to traverse across the map. See here.
Map is left as is.

@7737805
Some edges of the grounds are chocolate, which allows mice to climb without wall-jumping. Furthermore, the ladder can be pushed down, solving the issue of moving to the topmost section from the right. As for the ‘normal’ friction of the walls, vampires who are more experienced can reach the mice there. The chance of all of the vampires not knowing how to wall-jump is extremely rare.
Map is left as is.

@7605441
Map will be discussed.

@6364331
Map will be discussed.

@7560281
The map is rather hard to see, but that is part of its charm and suits the Vampire category. Considering how it is the only map like this, we’ll leave it be.
Map is left as is.

Mousechris a dit :

@264785 - P5

So if I can't make a map of belle delphine, wearing perfectly acceptable attire, because the theme of the map is of belle delphine, then why is there a stripper/pole dancer map that is P5'd?...

that seems like that's not an appropriate map for a mouse game for kids, but if you need further reason to deperm, then, there's also the fact the map is old, generic, and has bad gameplay and not the best art either.

Your map was inappropriate because of the pose/theme of the map, and especially in relation to other suggestive maps you've made during that period of time.

As for that P5 map, pole dancing in itself is officially recognized as a sport and isn't necessarily inappropriate in nature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_dance
As for its gameplay, it should be fine to keep as it's an older map.

@1755830 - P5
The nest is made with sand ground but it has trampoline properties, which makes it confusing :T

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Mousechris a dit :VoirMasquer

@264785 - P5

So if I can't make a map of belle delphine, wearing perfectly acceptable attire, because the theme of the map is of belle delphine, then why is there a stripper/pole dancer map that is P5'd?...

that seems like that's not an appropriate map for a mouse game for kids, but if you need further reason to deperm, then, there's also the fact the map is old, generic, and has bad gameplay and not the best art either.

Your map was inappropriate because of the pose/theme of the map, and especially in relation to other suggestive maps you've made during that period of time.

As for that P5 map, pole dancing in itself is officially recognized as a sport and isn't necessarily inappropriate in nature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_dance
As for its gameplay, it should be fine to keep as it's an older map.

This makes no sense

If i google pole dancing, google suggest to me "why is pole dancing sexualized" meaning it's not a question of if it is or isn't sexualized, it is.

Pole dancing being recognized as a sport does not change the fact that when people think of pole dancing they think of very NSFW adult content that should not be on a kids game, there is absolutely no reason this should not at least be discussed.

When parents see this map as an official level in the game, they are thinking Atelier801 is endorsing pole dancing. This is supported by the fact official levels are reviewed and discussed by the mapcrew, official staff of Atelier801. Meaning any P5 is effectively being endorsed by the game.

If we look at the map, the pose is sexual, the theme is sexual as evident by literally googling pole dancing. By all logic there should be no reason this map shouldn't be discussed, especially considering on top of all the the gameplay is bad. I implore you to discuss this over as a team as this is inconsistent with the expectations of the rotation.

I mean this all sternly and not condescendingly or sarcastically, so please understand i mean no rudeness by how stern i am but this map cannot simply be looked over. Stripping may be a "sport", but so is mud/oil wrestling, so are a lot of sexual activities, because sexual activities are physical activities generally. So, please, and i ask this as a please, reconsider.

Yes i agree @264785 - P5

I don't think I like this very much. Way too innapropriate for a age restricted site.

Considering the age limit is 13, still way too much for that type of stuff to be shared or exposed. Anyone with eyes can see this, must be blind. And have no sense of maturity.
Surely on some level this is not for the public eye, the Internet is way too dangerous in itself. But by playing a game/chat you direct or advert yourself away from that type of nonsense.

@3388615 - P5
Not the greatest art and the gameplay basically consist in a plank solution

Invisible grounds (acid)
Gobbek - @5050066 - P3

@116630 - P17 - The ice cubes are wall-jumpable which can be deceiving for people who don't know the map.

art maps P5

@261270 - this map have nothing related to art

@3839640 - mechanic in this map broken

@553708 - bad art and poor gameplay

@3989757 - i think this the only high prem map with no game

@529061 - now we in 2021 and you guys keep 10 years old map that look and play terrible

@334717 - the 80's mario look way better than this wood and lava mario , bad art

@994198 - idk if this an ant or kermit the frog , bad art

@454094 - if code older than some of the player's in this game ,what do u think of the gameplay and art they are bad

@238162 - ok idk what is this or what it based on ? , the art is bad



Gundoesk - most of this guy maps are outdated and bad in art and gameplay, his prem maps should be checked

@381391 - P13 - Weird, confusing and frustrating
@1526894 - P3 - Weird and confusing

@7233643 - P5
not very special art and gameplay is not funny, annoying mech

@4634497 - P5
poor gameplay

@707678 - P6
broken mechanism - the hole is ok but the cheese not