Remove big plank and restorative from divine mode

I support this. I think big planks are way op and should be nerfed or removed in general, not just with divine mode. What's the point of having to build across the map when one plank gets you there? The restorative definitely kills the point of divinity.

Tomdizzy a dit :

sabzra a dit :

Being a good or bad Divine Shaman has no point in this, Tomdizzy. Lots of people use Restorative, even the good ones. Because there is pretty much no other way to keep a build still, especially with those harder maps that requires a lot of building, unless a Shaman is really smart.

Come see me in #divinity sometime and tell me how impossible it is to make a steady build without any skills at all

100% support this. It is definitely possible to keep a still or at least working build when needed with no shaman skills on 99% of the maps.

#42

angelfromaj a dit :
/half support
I want it to be easy, yet i want it to be hard-ish too..

I agree
/halfsupport

#43

/support

I want a challenge. No- NEED a challenge in building.

#44

/half support

If you see a player using tape and long planks, why should you care? Those aren't your saves that are being farmed. And even with those two "OP" skills, I still find difficulty in building in Normal rooms. It's Vanilla where these skills make everything just too easy.

If you want a challenge, then don't invest in the tape and long planks. Simple as that.

#45

no plz

Divine mode is hard enough as it is. It's not like keeping planks from rotating is changing the entire game. Especially when it can only be used a few times.

/no support

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#46

elite4woolfy a dit :
no plz

Divine mode is hard enough as it is. It's not like keeping planks from rotating is changing the entire game. Especially when it can only be used a few times.

/no support

Keeping a plank from rotating is essentially a b plank.

lapinprince a dit :
/half support

If you see a player using tape and long planks, why should you care? Those aren't your saves that are being farmed. And even with those two "OP" skills, I still find difficulty in building in Normal rooms. It's Vanilla where these skills make everything just too easy.

If you want a challenge, then don't invest in the tape and long planks. Simple as that.

Divine mode is supposed to be a challenge by nature, not by choice.

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#47

Tomdizzy a dit :
Keeping a plank from rotating is essentially a b plank.

Other than the fact it does not hang mid air. More like a C plank.

#48

elite4woolfy a dit :
Tomdizzy a dit :
Keeping a plank from rotating is essentially a b plank.

Other than the fact it does not hang mid air. More like a C plank.

it hangs mid air just fine if you attach it to another one. Oh, and you have 5

Do C planks do this?

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#49

Tomdizzy a dit :
it hangs mid air just fine if you attach it to another one. Oh, and you have 5

tbh, if people want to use them, let them use them. It's not affecitng you. if you don't want to use them, then jsut don't use them. Not you saves, not your business.

#50

elite4woolfy a dit :
Tomdizzy a dit :
it hangs mid air just fine if you attach it to another one. Oh, and you have 5

tbh, if people want to use them, let them use them. It's not affecitng you. if you don't want to use them, then jsut don't use them. Not you saves, not your business.

Tomdizzy a dit :

Divine mode is supposed to be a challenge by nature, not by choice.

#51

Tomdizzy a dit :
Divine mode is supposed to be a challenge by nature, not by choice.

Fair point.They should make a mode where you can only use B Planks

#52

/support

This should be on either easy or hard.

#53

/half support

I only want the big planks to be removed fro divine.

#54

/no support.
It seems like all your suggestions are about restricting players to get divine saves. Without restorative no players would be able to gain any saves more than the amount of 15. On your post about raising the standards for unlocking divine mode, that's just ridiculous. If you have the time to play many hours a day, it doesn't mean everyone else is like you. People have lives and expectations they are supposed to meet and not waste hours on a mouse game where achieving a goal isn't even possible. Also, as other people have said, what they use is not your business. If you hate the skills so much, just don't get them. Simple as that.

Divine mode is already a big challenge for players who are just starting to use the mode. I don't understand why you are butting into other people's business.

#55

Tomdizzy a dit :

If you can't build without restoritive, then you are a bad divine shaman.

And who are you to judge other people based on their skills? Different people have different preferences, if you think saves are being gained unfairly, I don't see how. If you are a "good" divine sham, then do your own thing, show off, whatever you want.

#56

Chocojell a dit :
-snip-

If you are implying a specific skill is required to successfully build a map, you are already proving all of my points

In addition, someone who doesn't play tfm a lot should not be expected to be able to use what is supposed to be the most difficult mode.

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#57

I just redistributed from earlier (where i still had the big planks and restorative like in the screenshot) and I went into en2 r4, and people were so impressed by how I could build without those skills! I easily got more than 15 saves, even on terrible vanilla collision maps. It's not too hard.
If you need these skills for saves, you probably need help building without skills.
And if you really need help building in divine, go to #divinity. It helped me a lot. It's not too hard to grasp how to build without these super OP skills.
Edit:
screen proof lmao

http://image.prntscr.com/image/97873b8d744f44f1b5a17521a7741272.png

http://image.prntscr.com/image/67c657b561d7418eb6dc50dd36fec6c3.png

in a room with half afks.

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#58

Tomdizzy a dit :
If you are implying a specific skill is required to successfully build a map, you are already proving all of my points

In addition, someone who doesn't play tfm a lot should not be expected to be able to use what is supposed to be the most difficult mode.

Definition of thoughtless RIGHT HERE
The goals in games are supposed to be possible. Not impossible.

#59

From what I see, players have the right to choose whatever mode they desire to play on. If you are an expert at divine mode, you shouldn't expect players who are just beginning to use this mode to be exactly like you and possess all the skills you have already. Why should we compare? We all started at the bottom, practice is what makes you gain skills. As I said, if big planks and restorative bother you so much, don't use it. But also don't take them away from players who are willing to use them either. That's fair for all.

#60

^ agreed

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